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Grade Celtics draft

A
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Poll: Grade the Celtics draft
« on: June 21, 2019, 06:02:05 AM »

Offline Birdman

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I graded it a D..no bigs..Langsford be only one that wont be in Maine..just an awful draft but who knows might be a great one, only time will tell
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 06:32:52 AM by Birdman »
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

2019 grade Cs draft.
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 06:11:03 AM »

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I felt they missed on all their picks at drafting the BPA. Also felt they didn't fill the needs with the proper type of players. If it wasn't for the deals with 76ers and Suns I would of had the grade of D.

Grade C

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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 06:20:13 AM »

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I went B.

I like the Langford pick, I think he's going to impress people in time. The Williams pick was VALUE! All the draft experts I trust loved him, the ones who didn't unfortunately get the TV airtime...

Wouldn't have minded taking a center in the 2nd round but I do think the 2 guards we grabbed have upside. The Baynes trade was fine for me, opens up the cap space to get serious this summer.

Only reason it's a B is because I think they wanted Clarke at 22 and got outmanoeuvred, which is a shame.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 06:26:31 AM »

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Posted this in the other thread..

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I went B.

I like the Langford pick, I think he's going to impress people in time. The Williams pick was VALUE! All the draft experts I trust loved him, the ones who didn't unfortunately get the TV airtime...

Wouldn't have minded taking a center in the 2nd round but I do think the 2 guards we grabbed have upside. The Baynes trade was fine for me, opens up the cap space to get serious this summer.

Only reason it's a B is because I think they wanted Clarke at 22 and got outmanoeuvred, which is a shame.

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 06:33:04 AM »

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I went B.

I like the Langford pick, I think he's going to impress people in time. The Williams pick was VALUE! All the draft experts I trust loved him, the ones who didn't unfortunately get the TV airtime...

Wouldn't have minded taking a center in the 2nd round but I do think the 2 guards we grabbed have upside. The Baynes trade was fine for me, opens up the cap space to get serious this summer.

Only reason it's a B is because I think they wanted Clarke at 22 and got outmanoeuvred, which is a shame.
Pretty sure 2 way contract agreement was why Waters got drafted
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 07:01:26 AM »

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I felt they missed on all their picks at drafting the BPA. Also felt they didn't fill the needs with the proper type of players. If it wasn't for the deals with 76ers and Suns I would of had the grade of D.

Grade C

I agree with you.  They missed on all their picks, however I feel they deserve an F.  The league is a big mans game and they fail to understand that.  Drafting guard after guard and undersized bigger men is beyond stupid.  DA needs to go on draft night forever.  He should stay to make deals and but please get someone in there who will draft and values big men.  Red would be Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. slapping DA after this draft. 

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 07:01:47 AM »

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F.

Everyone chosen in the first round could have been taken later.

Could have had williams at 33
Could have had langford at 22

Missed out on some real studs.

Danny drafted for depth and did not choose bpas.

Langford will be behind brown. At absolute best langford might become a purely offensive 6th man who looks for number 1. A crawford type of player minus the outside shooting.

Edwards will do exactly the same thing, I am actually ok with edwards off the bench, problem is him playing with Langford.

Williams will make a good bench pf. Because although he is strong and smart he lacks the range, he lacks more importantly, height, length and explosion to keep up with the freaks in the nba. Honeslty there are very few nba pfs that I can see williams staying in front of out at the 3pt line. And I cannot see him staying in front of any wing players on switched. Add that to his propensity to foul alot amd this guy will be sitting on the bench alot. But he is strong. Hes PJ Tucker. And that is ok I guess. But I wanted more.





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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 07:06:24 AM »

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Got to protect the rim, rebound and score inside in NBA..look at Toronto..Ainge didnt address none of this in draft..his draft record is awful and this makes it horrible..guess Grant Williams going guard Embidd, Drummond and others..right now this team is a lottery team..need make a big splash in FA
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2019, 07:06:35 AM »

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A

I am going to be in the minority here but I was really happy with out draft last night.

Romeo Langford - A+
Romeo Langford came across as weird and sleepy on draft night but he's an absolute gifted scorer. Good size at 6'5/6'11 wingspan. Only shot 27% from 3 but all signs point to that being an aberration.

He's an elite finisher at the rim, with the type of touch that evades most of the guys on this roster like Smart, Jaylen, and even Tatum to a degree.

Langford was a top 6 prospect in this draft before the season started. In this case I think he'll be a big beneficiary of the NBA spacing and will be our starting 2 guard for years to come.

Grant Williams - A
While Langford was about overlooking college production for talent, Williams is about putting stock in it. Williams was an excellent NCAA player his past 2 years as a do it all forward.

Clearly an incredibly hard worker, he scored in the 96th percentile at the strength testing at P3 program for for current, future, and past NBA players tested.

Extremely solid 83% free throw shoots bodes well for his ability to one day develop into a spot up 3 threat.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/01/23/draft-notes-upside-case-grant-williams/

This is an excellent article which draw his comparisons in the PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder, Draymond territory. He is getting the same criticisms as those guys for his lack of height and prototypical athleticism while also drawing praise for their 3-5 defensive versatility.


Carson Edwards - B+
Cant say I know much about about Edwards but his output in college was undeniable at the PG position. Seems like he well suited to becoming a microwave bench scorer at the next level.

This can be a difficult position to fill as Terry Rozier proved by reverting back to an inefficient chucker when moved back to the bench. If you can find a player that relishes this role in the early second round, that is an excellent use of pick.

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The Celtics stayed true to their philosophy of building for the future while remaining viable in the present. Langford was an upside pick that should be able to carve out a role immediately, while Williams and Edwards are borderline close to NBA ready.

A lot of people were hoping for bigs to be drafted but I'd be much happier signing or trading for an established presence at the 4/5 and you'd hope after the Baynes move that they have a decent idea of who might be availible to them.

If we can sign a Vuc or trade for a Capela/Adams then this draft haul made all the sense in the world.

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2019, 07:09:46 AM »

Offline Hank Finkel

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Got to protect the rim, rebound and score inside in NBA..look at Toronto..Ainge didnt address none of this in draft..his draft record is awful and this makes it horrible..guess Grant Williams going guard Embidd, Drummond and others..right now this team is a lottery team..need make a big splash in FA
Couldn’t have said it better.  I would add its time for Danny to retire. 

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2019, 07:10:23 AM »

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I love Danny Ainge.


Freed up cap space to get some free agent bigs and added high character rookies to the team. I’m excited for this team. I’m excited for the new more positive vibes and the surprise of what this team will do with an amplified Brad Stevens

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2019, 07:12:45 AM »

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I think the players taken are just fine. Langford at 14 is a high value pick. The only knock on him is his shooting percentages at IU, but a hand injury skews those numbers. I read somewhere that he shot 35% from 3 over his last 12 games.

Very anxious to see how Stevens makes use of Carson Edwards. He could be the sleeper of this draft for the Celtics. We've seen players like this excel under Stevens before.

I know people are disappointed that they didn't address the center position in the draft, but we already have a young prospect for that position in Williams. Considering how long it takes to develop a center, I can see why free agency is where they'll address this need.

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2019, 07:18:59 AM »

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More than a little worried about Langford; Schmidtz’ breakdown has him as a low-energy defender who fails to give consistent energy, and as a ball-stopper prone to hero ball. He also seems redundant of Brown/Tatum. Idk.

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2019, 07:34:12 AM »

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I gave them a B. I thought they had a solid draft. The reality is they have like 5 guys on the active roster. They needed guards and bigs. They pretty much filled out the guard issue with some talented/productive players. They are going for a culture change imo after the disaster that was last year. A lot of the guys they drafted are grifters. They play hard and are good presence type players. They also have a penchant for going to the rim which is something none of our players do currently. 

Plus they opened up some more cap space which is where I’ll expect them to address the center spot. There’s no point in drafting another developmental center when you already have one on the roster in Williams.

Overall, solid.

PS- I get a sick satisfaction reading people complain about the draft. I find it hilarious that people get so upset about players who have not played a moment for the team yet. Some of the overreactions are great.

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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2019, 07:38:36 AM »

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A -- Langford has high potential for a mid first round pick and I like the way his game should translate to today's NBA. Grant Williams is a baller who should have a long career in the league which is great for a pick in the 20s.