The Bash Danny Ainge thread

[Chris22]

The nba is about trying to get superstars, that's it.

Especially the half a dozen guys who can win you a championship.

[ETNCeltics]

What did he fail at?

The boo hoos are so silly. Are people this upset over AD NOT WANTING to come play in Boston?

He didn't want to be here and I didnt want to sit through a season of listening him pouting because he wants to be in LA.

Bingo. We have a good team and five first round picks.

We have some nice young players and plenty of ways to build a fun, solid, sustainable team.

Do we have a realistic or obvious path to contention?

Given what transpired, it's obvious that Ainge and the Pelicans think Tatum is more than a "nice young player".

[Celtics4ever]

Until Danny is gone, I'm done with basketball.

The world go on without you, and this blog will as well.  I am glad DA did not give up the young guys for a one year rental.   He certainly, blew it on Kawhi.

But I would wager he is probably better at his job than you are at yours as he is a fine GM.

[Ilikesports17]

Danny Ainge signed Gordon Hayward to a full max and he snapped his ankle in half 6 minutes into the season.

That makes building a team really really hard. I love Ainge. I think he's an elite GM. There are maybe 2 or 3 guys out there that I think are better at building a team.

[Ilikesports17]

What did he fail at?

The boo hoos are so silly. Are people this upset over AD NOT WANTING to come play in Boston?

He didn't want to be here and I didnt want to sit through a season of listening him pouting because he wants to be in LA.

Bingo. We have a good team and five first round picks.

We have some nice young players and plenty of ways to build a fun, solid, sustainable team.

Do we have a realistic or obvious path to contention?

Yes.

Let Horford and Hayward leave, and then sign a max player who can bring us a championship.

It's not rocket science.

Who?

This becomes a lot harder if you actually look at the max guys set to become available in the next few years.

Nobody knows who will be available. Things change over time.

So in other words "who knows I'm sure they'll figure something out"

In other words, Ainge should never have signed Hayward to such a big contract. I did not like it at the time, and it looks terrible now.

It's impossible to grade that signing. No one could have predicted that Hayward would suffer an injury that would keep him out a full season and then cripple him for the next.

Kevin Durant would have been a bad signing too if he tore his achilles 6 minutes into his Celtics career.

[mr. dee]

If anything, this is the right move. Raptors won because of the depth they had and Warriors star players dropping like flies. Why people think that AD with a thin bench can win anything despite the proof that he can't even consistently carry the Pelicans team to the off season?

Yes, its not a comparison to KG. KG was consistently carrying his team to the playoffs on a stacked Western conference, made it to the Conference Finals with Sprewell and Cassell as his best help and actually won an MVP. His team actually have 4 50+ win season in contrast to AD's none.

And Celtics are not a lottery team this time around. We have more to lose by acquiring AD then we had back then by sending a young Big Al, along with couple of lottery picks. Jefferson wasn't exactly an ideal building block because he had little impact on W-L column in contrast to the Jays where a difference between a win and loss is how both perform well.

[Seymour scagnetti]

I have not done the research, but, what is the last trade that Ainge "lost". Not trades he didn't make( George, Leonard, and now Davis.) I know his draft history, I just think is he one of the top GM's. Am I wrong?

[ozgod]

Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't do. A good GM puts you in position to make moves, and decides whether they are a good idea or not. The OP would probably be one of those people bashing Danny for being an idiot if we had given up Tatum, Smart et al to get AD and he had left in free agency next year.

It's clear that Danny had no confidence that AD was going to leave, and for good reason as all the indication were that he was. His agent basically told us he was. Why bet the future of the franchise on it? Especially if Kyrie doesn't look like he's going to stay - I'm sure Kyrie's lack of commitment during the trade talks was another factor in Danny's decision.

[flybono]

I’m tired of the NBA B.S! and all this dream team talk

It’s time for Ainge to build a contender minus all these so called Superstar diva’s and nut bags.

Dumars and the great Larry Brown did it and won a Ring in Detroit minus any Hall of Famers in 04. Those Piston Teams had great depth and players who knew there roles.

I want to see Ainge get aggressive in the draft and the trade market this season before I call for his job.

No more d@mn excuses. No more waiting for nutbags!

Build through the draft and role player trades

[RodyTur10]

I'm hoping that I'm wrong on Tatum. By all accounts it seems that the Celtics view Tatum as a potential superstar and I don't see it. If Tatum does become a top 10 player then I will have a very different opinion on the outcome of this year than I do know.

Right now it just feels that we lost.

A championship rotation of Irving/Smart/Brown/Hayward/Morris/Horford/Davis/Baynes was in reach. So annoyingly close. That will hurt for some time. Now we have to lick our wounds, accept our situation, don't do anything rash and build in silence.

Ainge and Stevens have made many mistakes this year, but despite the damage the Celtics could be in a worse spot. And both have done too many great things to want to have them fired over this debacle.

[footey]

What did he fail at?

The boo hoos are so silly. Are people this upset over AD NOT WANTING to come play in Boston?

He didn't want to be here and I didnt want to sit through a season of listening him pouting because he wants to be in LA.

Bingo. We have a good team and five first round picks.

We have some nice young players and plenty of ways to build a fun, solid, sustainable team.

Do we have a realistic or obvious path to contention?

I understand your frustration, but things that neither of us are considering are going to happen. Another disgruntled star demands a trade. Another Donovan Mitchell emerges out of the draft.  That's what makes all this a journey.  We can plan for years what we think is the right path, and not get it. But don't fret.

[Mr October]

No way am I bashing Ainge. He's one of the best GMs in the league. We've gotta solid team. The Kyrie trade was a solid gamble and maybe he is just too much of malcontent in the end. I gotta say I really like our young guys. Keep on building Danny.

[Birdman]

Im, for one, am very glad he didnt trade Tatum and whoever plus lots of picks for a one year rental player who didnt want to come here and always hurt..Kyrie just didnt work here plus didnt give up anything for him anyhow

[Boris Badenov]

What did he fail at?

The boo hoos are so silly. Are people this upset over AD NOT WANTING to come play in Boston?

He didn't want to be here and I didnt want to sit through a season of listening him pouting because he wants to be in LA.

And right after we just went through the same thing with Kyrie. I mean, what are we bashing Ainge for - having common sense?

[Rosco917]

 Well it's official. He failed. Defend him if you please. This was the last domino. I listened to Larbrd plead with me that this has always been about Davis.

 I agreed I'll wait until the end and the end times is here. Fire Danny. Hire Masai at all costs. GM more important than Stevens that's for sure.

 No Paul George, Butler, Davis, Cousins, Kawhi. Fire Danny!

He didn't fail at all. He used common sense and acted like a businessman. He didn't swing at every wild pitch, he didn't overreact. Davis didn't want to come here...period. Cousin's is a catastrophe. Butler is trouble. I would have liked George here. The C's didn't have enough to get Kawhi without getting rid of Tatum and Brown. Who knows if Kawhi would have stayed.