no. it's your opinion. please keep those two distinct from one another since they clearly not the same thing.
Because he is an excellent player, one of the best role models around for young players, a great locker room presence, and because his total skillset is one of the most sought after in the league. Without Horford, our front line is rubbish.
Oh I am not advocating for such things to happen. My preference is to keep Horford long term. Try to convince Al to opt out and sign a new 4 year, $73 million deal that starts at $20 million and decreases by 8% a year for the next three years.
Kyrie 21.3m + Horford 30.1m = 51.3m. Total salary after Kyrie and Horford walk would be $71.8 million. Then you have cap holds for the three draft picks and an empty roster slot. That's slightly over $8 million. So let's call salary and holds total $80 million. You would then need to renounce Rozier, Theis, Wanamaker and Morris to clear open $29 million in cap space.
Celts will have enough cap room for D-Lo if that 51.3m is off the payroll.
Not sure which free agent you could sign but I heard Jrue Holiday wasn't keen on staying in New Orleans without Davis and his salary would fit into our cap, so maybe try to convince Griffin to salary dump Holiday to us.
And Holiday was just a suggestion, perhaps Danny tries to trade for a big under the same circumstances by absorbing salary via trade into the cap space.
Ya but then you have the issue of subtracting Horford and adding a 29 year old Holiday is really just a lateral move. I mean pretty much anybody we could reasonably sign would be, unless you are playing the restricted free agent game.
Why would you want Horford on a rebuilding team?
Horford is better off chasing a ring than baby sitting guys like Tatum and Brown.
The Celts are not contenders anymore.
Replacing Horford with Holiday while also having to completely move on from Morris, Rozier, Theis and Wanamaker is a major step backwards, IMO. If you are doing that, may as well go full blow up mode and strip the team down to Brown Tatum Smart and just add a bunch of rookies, suck for a few years and stock the team with high draft picks.
I don't know about replacing Horford with Holiday, but one thing's for sure, if the Celts are not contenders, might as well blow it up.
Staying a middle of the pack team is worse than being a lottery team.
Celts are better off with Brown, Tatum, Smart, and a bunch of rookies.
The championship window has closed for the Celts.
No AD and no Kyrie means the Celts are done.
Time to rebuild again.
pathetic post. stop your whining.
It's not whining, it's reality.
You can check the odds of teams winning the championship next season.
Celts are not even in the top 5.
Fierce1 is right, there's no reasonable short term path to a championship anymore. Losing Irving and missing out on Davis is MAJOR. This isn't a small drawback. Our championship dreams have been thrown in the gutter.
- Some draft picks not working out (examples: Young, Hunter, Mickey, Yabusele etc.). We could handle that.
- Letting some decent rotation players walk (examples: Turner, Olynyk, Sullinger). We could handle that as well.
- Durant choosing Golden State over us (summer 2016). Big disappointment. But we still had a lot of assets.
- Hayward getting injured (October 17th, 2017). Here it felt things could go really wrong (not just for Gordon).
- Chemistry issues between old and young. It was clear we'd waited too long, had to strike fast to fix this.
- Rose rule. The path that was lingering for years (Ainge trading for Davis) now unexpectedly blocked.
- Front office ignoring to fix our roster problems. Clearly saving assets for Davis was our last hope.
- Irving possibly wanting to leave. Risk of trading big assets became even greater.
- Davis' agent Rich Paul again emphasizing no intend to re-sign in Boston. Even less eagerness for us to take the risk.
- Lakers trading for Davis, because Boston refused to make Tatum available. End of championship aspirations.
I didn't mention the good things that have happened in this 6-year rebuilding period, but most of them don't matter anymore.
Like the trades for and emergences of Crowder and Thomas (both have been traded for Irving, who leaves us with nothing).
Signing Horford in free agency (last year of his contract, won't have much value left neither as a player nor as an asset)
Making a genius and gutsy trade of the #1 pick (obtained Kings' pick dropped disappointingly to #14)What is left are:
Jayson Tatum (great #3 selection in '17 with a Brooklyn pick from the Garnett/Pierce trade)
Jaylen Brown (good #3 selection in '16 with a Brooklyn pick from the Garnett/Pierce trade).
Marcus Smart (drafted #6 in 2014 with Celtics pick, only 'tank' year).
Gordon Hayward (free agent signing in 2017, hoping to get back at his old level, right now not an asset)
Al Horford (can opt out or activate player option)
Aron Baynes (one year contract, with a no-trade-promise)
Robert Williams (drafted #27 in 2018, raw project)
Semi Ojeleye (cheap role player drafted in the second round in 2017)
Guerschon Yabusele (drafted #16 in 2016, part of the Rondo-to-Dallas-trade, looks like a bust)
Rights to match for Terry Rozier (also a remainder of the infamous Nets trade)
Memphis pick (prot 1-6 in 2020, unprotected 2021, result of Jeff Green trade to Memphis)
#14 pick (from the trade down in 2017 with Philadelphia)
#20 pick (Ainge traded two second-round picks for this Clippers pick in 2016)
#22 pick and all other Boston picksA lot depends on our draft selections on Thursday and how we develop those rookies and other young players on the roster like Ojeleye and Williams. Most important is that Brown and Tatum will become All Stars, since the rest of the roster is quite insignificant. Otherwise that road to the top might get a lot longer than it already looks to be.