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Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2019, 01:27:25 AM »

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What I think Danny could do  (does it check out?)

On draft night 
either trade the 20 and 22 1st round picks for future 1sts (2020)  Or pick attractive HS bridge youngsters like Bazley, Lecque. With the 14th pick draft NAW or Little

After July 1st
- Sign and trade Irving to Nets for Joe Harris and Deron Williams + trade exception 

- Then trade Smart + Trade exception +  Bazley and Lecque or 2020 1sts (there are a few combinations Ainge can play around with)  for Conley Jr.

- Sign and trade Terry Rozier + Yabusele + 2020 Celtics 1st  for Capela

-  Restructure Horford contract to 3 year 66 million dollar deal


Celtics lineup after all of these deals

Capela
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Conley Jr.

Baynes
Williams
Harris
Hayward
Semi
NAW or Little


edit
** my bad, hoopshype still shows Crabbe still listed under Nets control. Otherwise the above could have worked out smoother
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Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2019, 01:42:55 AM »

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If our interest is true, Kyrie has told Danny gone for good which is not surprising given the way he was treated. Too bad, I was trying to rack my brain when was the last time we had two bonafide superstars in their prime wearing green and drew a blank. Close in 80s but not quite two top ten players. Definitely not 07-08 as they were awesome but past their prime. We could have had Davis and Kyrie plus Hayward and Horford...what a shame...what a shame...

Nobody treated Kyrie poorly. He had it made here and did whatever he wanted. And Ainge is probably willing to bend backwards to assemble a roster Taylor made for him.

Exactly!! lol how was Kyrie treated poorly? Guy was hired and paid to play. He got his salary, played for the team, caused some unnecessary drama along the way. Now he is hightailing it out of town. How did the Celtics treat their employee badly?
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Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2019, 01:46:17 AM »

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The only reason I can see the Nets wanting to do a sign and trade for Irving is that they can exhaust the trade exception they received from Hawks (Crabbe trade).  Then they would have more money to spend via free agency period

If Celts know Irving is planning to sign with the NETS, why not try to benefit from the situation.  All parties benefit

Now if the Nets want to go after AD  (now that Durant has possibly torn his achilles),  they don't have enough assets to go after him unless they trade Russell, Allen, Dinwiddie and multiple 1sts.  I don't know, just can't see them going skeleton like this unless AD committed to a long term deal (in this scenerio, use TE for AD trade and sign Irving as a FA)

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Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2019, 02:23:35 AM »

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Does anyone know, What's the most the Celtics could sign Rozier to in a 1 year deal?

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2019, 02:29:16 AM »

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What I think Danny could do  (does it check out?)

On draft night 
either trade the 20 and 22 1st round picks for future 1sts (2020)  Or pick attractive HS bridge youngsters like Bazley, Lecque. With the 14th pick draft NAW or Little

After July 1st
- Sign and trade Irving to Nets for Joe Harris and Deron Williams + trade exception 

- Then trade Smart + Trade exception +  Bazley and Lecque or 2020 1sts (there are a few combinations Ainge can play around with)  for Conley Jr.

- Sign and trade Terry Rozier + Yabusele + 2020 Celtics 1st  for Capela

-  Restructure Horford contract to 3 year 66 million dollar deal


Celtics lineup after all of these deals

Capela
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Conley Jr.

Baynes
Williams
Harris
Hayward
Semi
NAW or Little


edit
** my bad, hoopshype still shows Crabbe still listed under Nets control. Otherwise the above could have worked out smoother
Illegal trade. Can't go down.

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2019, 04:02:13 AM »

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What I think Danny could do  (does it check out?)

On draft night 
either trade the 20 and 22 1st round picks for future 1sts (2020)  Or pick attractive HS bridge youngsters like Bazley, Lecque. With the 14th pick draft NAW or Little

After July 1st
- Sign and trade Irving to Nets for Joe Harris and Deron Williams + trade exception 

- Then trade Smart + Trade exception +  Bazley and Lecque or 2020 1sts (there are a few combinations Ainge can play around with)  for Conley Jr.

- Sign and trade Terry Rozier + Yabusele + 2020 Celtics 1st  for Capela

-  Restructure Horford contract to 3 year 66 million dollar deal


Celtics lineup after all of these deals

Capela
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Conley Jr.

Baynes
Williams
Harris
Hayward
Semi
NAW or Little


edit
** my bad, hoopshype still shows Crabbe still listed under Nets control. Otherwise the above could have worked out smoother
Deron williams hasn't played for the nets in about 5 years

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2019, 04:09:57 AM »

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What I think Danny could do  (does it check out?)

On draft night 
either trade the 20 and 22 1st round picks for future 1sts (2020)  Or pick attractive HS bridge youngsters like Bazley, Lecque. With the 14th pick draft NAW or Little

After July 1st
- Sign and trade Irving to Nets for Joe Harris and Deron Williams + trade exception 

- Then trade Smart + Trade exception +  Bazley and Lecque or 2020 1sts (there are a few combinations Ainge can play around with)  for Conley Jr.

- Sign and trade Terry Rozier + Yabusele + 2020 Celtics 1st  for Capela

-  Restructure Horford contract to 3 year 66 million dollar deal


Celtics lineup after all of these deals

Capela
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Conley Jr.

Baynes
Williams
Harris
Hayward
Semi
NAW or Little


edit
** my bad, hoopshype still shows Crabbe still listed under Nets control. Otherwise the above could have worked out smoother
Deron williams hasn't played for the nets in about 5 years
Prime Deron Williams was a monster to be fair ;) Could do with him as a Kyrie replacement
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Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2019, 06:11:57 AM »

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The only reason I can see the Nets wanting to do a sign and trade for Irving is that they can exhaust the trade exception they received from Hawks (Crabbe trade).  Then they would have more money to spend via free agency period

If Celts know Irving is planning to sign with the NETS, why not try to benefit from the situation.  All parties benefit

Now if the Nets want to go after AD  (now that Durant has possibly torn his achilles),  they don't have enough assets to go after him unless they trade Russell, Allen, Dinwiddie and multiple 1sts.  I don't know, just can't see them going skeleton like this unless AD committed to a long term deal (in this scenerio, use TE for AD trade and sign Irving as a FA)

Unless you think Kyrie is going to take less in salary than the TPE is worth, that’s not how it works
I'm bitter.

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2019, 06:48:15 AM »

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I would think this is only being looked at based on 2 factors:

1) Davis is traded for at a cost that is not unreasonable
2) Irving refuses to resign

Then, you look at a deal for Conley, and I would assume it would need to include Hayward.

Tatum., Yabuselle, Williams, Memphis pick, Pick 20 and Cash to Pelicans

Hayward, pick 20 to Memphis for Conley

Conley
Smart
Brown
Horford
Davis

I dont know if someone wants Rozier or not.

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2019, 07:02:16 AM »

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Was there any reason at all the team signed Gordon Hayward to a 120 million dollar contract?  Seriously? Literally ANY reason?

I mean if he's not good enough to be your lead ball handler this year with the Roster as it's currently constructed minus KryRie than WHY DID WE PAY HIM SO MUCH? 

The team is handicapped financially until his contract expires and the plan is to have him as 1 of 4 redundant wings? You've got to be kidding me.   

I simply cannot believe the team is prioritizing signing a point guard after the last two years proved that the team will perform the same whether it's T-Rozier or Kyrie Irving at the point.

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2019, 07:08:03 AM »

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Was there any reason at all the team signed Gordon Hayward to a 120 million dollar contract?  Seriously? Literally ANY reason?

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Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2019, 07:20:49 AM »

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Was there any reason at all the team signed Gordon Hayward to a 120 million dollar contract?  Seriously? Literally ANY reason?

I mean if he's not good enough to be your lead ball handler this year with the Roster as it's currently constructed minus KryRie than WHY DID WE PAY HIM SO MUCH? 

The team is handicapped financially until his contract expires and the plan is to have him as 1 of 4 redundant wings? You've got to be kidding me.   

I simply cannot believe the team is prioritizing signing a point guard after the last two years proved that the team will perform the same whether it's T-Rozier or Kyrie Irving at the point.
Hayward’s numbers in Utah warranted that kind of money.

You’re leaving out a pretty important variable.  in between the start of this season and when we signed Hayward is a pretty gruesome leg injury. 

I think this season Hayward is as close as he’s gonna be to being back to the player he was in Utah, but it’s not guaranteed.  So for a team that’s still trying to contend despite one of their prized players being setback bc of a previous injury to want to have other options and avenues to fill that void, is pretty reasonable
Greg

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2019, 07:27:39 AM »

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Was there any reason at all the team signed Gordon Hayward to a 120 million dollar contract?  Seriously? Literally ANY reason?

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Or 20-5-4 over a near 250 game stretch.

But this guy hates Gordon Hayward for no real reason, so I wouldn't recommend getting into this debate
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Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2019, 07:31:38 AM »

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Was there any reason at all the team signed Gordon Hayward to a 120 million dollar contract?  Seriously? Literally ANY reason?

21.9p 2.5as 1st 5.4r 39%3p  53.6%eFG
Or 20-5-4 over a near 250 game stretch.

But this guy hates Gordon Hayward for no real reason, so I wouldn't recommend getting into this debate

you are right but sometimes i can't help it........ ignoring reality is where i draw a line..

Re: Woj: Celtics in on Mike Conley (Rumor)
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2019, 07:47:24 AM »

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Was there any reason at all the team signed Gordon Hayward to a 120 million dollar contract?  Seriously? Literally ANY reason?

21.9p 2.5as 1st 5.4r 39%3p  53.6%eFG
Or 20-5-4 over a near 250 game stretch.

But this guy hates Gordon Hayward for no real reason, so I wouldn't recommend getting into this debate

you are right but sometimes i can't help it........ ignoring reality is where i draw a line..

I’m bullish on Hayward next year after a summer of mostly training than rehab.  I’m especially bullish if Tatum is sent in a trade for Davis.  More minutes to be had on the wing.  There were stretches from January forward where Hayward’s per 36 numbers were excellent.