For the lovers of sign and trade transactions

[NKY fan]

Note - S&T rarely happens nowadays but the following might work for all parties :
- S&T Rozier 3 yr $33M to pacers for McDermott plus 2020 lottery protected pick
- S&T Irving to Nets for Crabbe and 2020 unprotected 1st rd pick
- S&T Morris 3 yr $39M and Horford 3 yr $75M to Houston for Chris Paul plus 2023 unprotected first round pick

Rozier transaction seems the most realistic as it will allow Indy to resign their other free agents and also sign a guard they are targeting. Ainge gets a a future salary filler (occasional role player too) plus an asset to use for a mid season trade.

Irving transaction is unlikely but if the nets are set on clearing space anyway and Irving is signing with them for sure ... why not get a $18.5 M expiring contract and temporary backup shooting guard. The pick will also help our future pursuits of stars

The Houston deal is unlikely but it’s posdible that this is the best situation for Morris and Horford and Morey is set on moving Paul contract ... 2023 rockets draft pick can be considered golden in 2022..
Celtics lineup :
Paul / Smart / draft pick
Brown / Crabbe / McDermott
Hayward / Semi / draft pick
Tatum / MLE / yabu
Baynes / time lord / Draft pick

Looks like a 5 -7 seed with a potential to scoop whoever is on the trade market mid season:

Beal , griffin , Jrue Holiday ... vucevic if his team is struggling.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

Note - S&T rarely happens nowadays but the following might work for all parties :
- S&T Rozier 3 yr $33M to pacers for McDermott plus 2020 lottery protected pick
- S&T Irving to Nets for Crabbe and 2020 unprotected 1st rd pick
- S&T Morris 3 yr $39M and Horford 3 yr $75M to Houston for Chris Paul plus 2023 unprotected first round pick

Rozier transaction seems the most realistic as it will allow Indy to resign their other free agents and also sign a guard they are targeting. Ainge gets a a future salary filler (occasional role player too) plus an asset to use for a mid season trade.

Irving transaction is unlikely but if the nets are set on clearing space anyway and Irving is signing with them for sure ... why not get a $18.5 M expiring contract and temporary backup shooting guard. The pick will also help our future pursuits of stars

The Houston deal is unlikely but it’s posdible that this is the best situation for Morris and Horford and Morey is set on moving Paul contract ... 2023 rockets draft pick can be considered golden in 2022..
Celtics lineup :
Paul / Smart / draft pick
Brown / Crabbe / McDermott
Hayward / Semi / draft pick
Tatum / MLE / yabu
Baynes / time lord / Draft pick

Looks like a 5 -7 seed with a potential to scoop whoever is on the trade market mid season:

Beal , griffin , Jrue Holiday ... vucevic if his team is struggling.

But here is a scenario where we use 4....

[NKY fan]

Note - S&T rarely happens nowadays but the following might work for all parties :
- S&T Rozier 3 yr $33M to pacers for McDermott plus 2020 lottery protected pick
- S&T Irving to Nets for Crabbe and 2020 unprotected 1st rd pick
- S&T Morris 3 yr $39M and Horford 3 yr $75M to Houston for Chris Paul plus 2023 unprotected first round pick

Rozier transaction seems the most realistic as it will allow Indy to resign their other free agents and also sign a guard they are targeting. Ainge gets a a future salary filler (occasional role player too) plus an asset to use for a mid season trade.

Irving transaction is unlikely but if the nets are set on clearing space anyway and Irving is signing with them for sure ... why not get a $18.5 M expiring contract and temporary backup shooting guard. The pick will also help our future pursuits of stars

The Houston deal is unlikely but it’s posdible that this is the best situation for Morris and Horford and Morey is set on moving Paul contract ... 2023 rockets draft pick can be considered golden in 2022..
Celtics lineup :
Paul / Smart / draft pick
Brown / Crabbe / McDermott
Hayward / Semi / draft pick
Tatum / MLE / yabu
Baynes / time lord / Draft pick

Looks like a 5 -7 seed with a potential to scoop whoever is on the trade market mid season:

Beal , griffin , Jrue Holiday ... vucevic if his team is struggling.

But here is a scenario where we use 4....

You know a lot of users on here are in finance or love math so they will appreciate the ideas. I’m not saying they are realistic with the exception of the Rozier trade....

[Monkhouse]

Your credibility went out the window the moment you assumed we would trade Horford and Morris for Chris Paul...

[NKY fan]

Your credibility went out the window the moment you assumed we would trade Horford and Morris for Chris Paul...

What if they don’t want to resign? Should we lose them for nothing?
We can over pay them to stay with the Celtics but then they will be untradeable.
While Paul’s contract is horrendous and would make this transaction unlikely... which other team would be willing to send something for Morris and Al ?

[gouki88]

God, these are all terrible terrible deals besides maybe the Indiana one.

Why do we want more middle-late first round picks? Why would Kyrie agree to that?

Why do we want arguably the worst contract in basketball?? He's merely a good point guard now, but is incredibly injury-prone.

Yuck.

[NKY fan]

God, these are all terrible terrible deals besides maybe the Indiana one.

Why do we want more middle-late first round picks? Why would Kyrie agree to that?

Why do we want arguably the worst contract in basketball?? He's merely a good point guard now, but is incredibly injury-prone.

Yuck.

All Kyrie has to do is tell Ainge he’s going to the nets.. the rest will be handled between Ainge and marks .... if nets free cap space they can sign to a max contract Harris or Durant or even throw money at our Horford...
The Houston deal is very unlikely as I pointed but I also pointed the sweeteners from Houston can help...
Ainge is addicted to draft picks... ask any non Celtics fan

[Kaz]

No way the Nets are ever gonna send an unprotected 1st rounder to the Celtics again no matter how rozy the situation looks lol

CP3 is a cancer, aging badly, and would create drama.  No thanks., especially with losing Horford.

Rozier for McBuckets is cool though.  That one could actually happen too

[NKY fan]

No way the Nets are ever gonna send an unprotected 1st rounder to the Celtics again no matter how rozy the situation looks lol

CP3 is a cancer, aging badly, and would create drama.  No thanks., especially with losing Horford.

Rozier for McBuckets is cool though.  That one could actually happen too

I kinda agree with you on all and that’s why I graded only the Rozier trade as somewhat likely .... I also thought what can we do if we let all four guys walk for nothing? We would have $30M of cap space ... maybe Ainge can throw 3-4 year contracts at Colisson and Randle?
That’s not his style though

[Monkhouse]

No way the Nets are ever gonna send an unprotected 1st rounder to the Celtics again no matter how rozy the situation looks lol

CP3 is a cancer, aging badly, and would create drama.  No thanks., especially with losing Horford.

Rozier for McBuckets is cool though.  That one could actually happen too

I kinda agree with you on all and that’s why I graded only the Rozier trade as somewhat likely .... I also thought what can we do if we let all four guys walk for nothing? We would have $30M of cap space ... maybe Ainge can throw 3-4 year contracts at Colisson and Randle?
That’s not his style though

It is post like these, I really find it hard to come back here. Quality of posts have made it unbearable...

It takes like the same amount of time you typed to make this thread to do some simple research and figure out our cap situation..

We would not have over 20, let alone 30 million in cap space..

It really isn't rocket science. And you're also making awful trade proposals that would hinder the Celtics.

[trickybilly]

That Chris Paul deal??? 

Horford is younger!

Houston would lurve that deal. Not me.

[byennie]

No way the Nets are ever gonna send an unprotected 1st rounder to the Celtics again no matter how rozy the situation looks lol

CP3 is a cancer, aging badly, and would create drama.  No thanks., especially with losing Horford.

Rozier for McBuckets is cool though.  That one could actually happen too

I kinda agree with you on all and that’s why I graded only the Rozier trade as somewhat likely .... I also thought what can we do if we let all four guys walk for nothing? We would have $30M of cap space ... maybe Ainge can throw 3-4 year contracts at Colisson and Randle?
That’s not his style though

It is post like these, I really find it hard to come back here. Quality of posts have made it unbearable...

It takes like the same amount of time you typed to make this thread to do some simple research and figure out our cap situation..

We would not have over 20, let alone 30 million in cap space..

It really isn't rocket science. And you're also making awful trade proposals that would hinder the Celtics.

I'm not a huge fan of these deals either, but how do you figure $20M is out of reach if Irving, Horford and Rozier walk? We'd be at about $71M (-$38M) committed salary for 6 players before dealing with Semi (non-guaranteed), roster holds and draft picks.

[NKY fan]

No way the Nets are ever gonna send an unprotected 1st rounder to the Celtics again no matter how rozy the situation looks lol

CP3 is a cancer, aging badly, and would create drama.  No thanks., especially with losing Horford.

Rozier for McBuckets is cool though.  That one could actually happen too

I kinda agree with you on all and that’s why I graded only the Rozier trade as somewhat likely .... I also thought what can we do if we let all four guys walk for nothing? We would have $30M of cap space ... maybe Ainge can throw 3-4 year contracts at Colisson and Randle?
That’s not his style though

It is post like these, I really find it hard to come back here. Quality of posts have made it unbearable...

It takes like the same amount of time you typed to make this thread to do some simple research and figure out our cap situation..

We would not have over 20, let alone 30 million in cap space..

It really isn't rocket science. And you're also making awful trade proposals that would hinder the Celtics.

You mean the quality of your post?

I definitely did the research before I posted. It definitely took me less than the time I typed. I have researched cba enough to know what cap hold means... also I know some useful sites that post credible info on salaries and salary caps by respective season . I also have the ability to do math in my head quickly beacause well I’m one of those talented people .....
I didn’t post we would have over $30M of space but just $30M which means approximately $30M!
Of the top of my head:
GH - $32.5M
MS - $12.5

JT - 7.8
JB - 6.5
AB - 5.5
Yabu-3.1
TL - 1.9
Semi - 1.6
14 pick - 3M
20 p - 2 M
22 p - 2M
2 unused spots  -1.7M
No other significant free agent cap holds.
Renounce MLE and BAE
 Subtotal - $79.2M

Cap approximated - 109M

Cap space $29.8 .
If my rounding is off and have to also count the dead cap of Demetrius Jackson this $29.8M May come down by 2-300 K


You attacked my post because I suggested an unlikely sign and trade which probably made you face palm ? Notice that I noted it’s very unlikely for those S&T to happen...
If you have problems with the quality of my posts or anyone else in particular maybe you should visit other fans pages and see how well they understand the financial side of the CBA... you may also happen to get a better idea of the worth of the Celtics assets or what they think of the Celtics fans in general... you may find the experience a little humbling.

[Celtics4ever]

You attacked my post because I suggested an unlikely sign and trade which probably made you face palm ? Notice that I noted it’s very unlikely for those S&T to happen...
If you have problems with the quality of my posts or anyone else in particular maybe you should visit other fans pages and see how well they understand the financial side of the CBA... you may also happen to get a better idea of the worth of the Celtics assets or what they think of the Celtics fans in general... you may find the experience a little humbling.

I think he attacked because he did not want those trades because they were bad and in many cases lateral moves.  Big deal so you used ESPN trade checker or Real GM anyone can do that.   While, I agree many here are homers and have green tinted glasses and over value our guys.   

[NKY fan]

You attacked my post because I suggested an unlikely sign and trade which probably made you face palm ? Notice that I noted it’s very unlikely for those S&T to happen...
If you have problems with the quality of my posts or anyone else in particular maybe you should visit other fans pages and see how well they understand the financial side of the CBA... you may also happen to get a better idea of the worth of the Celtics assets or what they think of the Celtics fans in general... you may find the experience a little humbling.

I think he attacked because he did not want those trades because they were bad and in many cases lateral moves.  Big deal so you used ESPN trade checker or Real GM anyone can do that.   While, I agree many here are homers and have green tinted glasses and over value our guys.   

So you’re saying it’s ok to attack people’s opinions using unverified statements?
I also referred to the so called sites with info meaning I am aware where I can do the research not that I Know some best kept secrets.
Sorry if I sound too defensive but clearly this post was in the transactions and rumors section...

 if you read the title of the post you’d immediately know this post is not for the fans that look at basketball from its holistic side only

But  is purely theoretical ( financially theoretically sound).
End of rant.