Poll: Frustrated Cs fan poll; Does Jayson Tatum remind you of Andrew Wiggins?

[slamtheking]

I can't seem to shake the feel when I watch both players playing.  They are good, but tend lack something.  I checked AW stats and are about what I am expecting JT to be at next season....taking 2019 performance as baseline.

What say you?

please clarify - in what sense are the comparable-->just stats?

[Roy H.]

I think Tatum has just been utilized incorrectly. 

In his first season his shooting percentages were .475/.434/.82 .  That's Klay Thompson/Ray Allen/ Bradley Beal like.   He's also built a lot like those guys.  I get that he's an inch or two taller, but he's built like a cross country runner...  Why he's not running people around screens and being fed shots off the move is beyond me.  His iso game is above average, but why would you make one of the best pure shooters the team has ever had essentially a static target for his defenders?  Why not wear them down? 

So no, he doesn't remind me or Andrew Wiggins - at all.  Except that I thought Wiggins would be an all-NBA level defender with the right coach and I think coaching is all that's keeping Tatum from being one of the NBA's best shooters.

Probably because those type of shots are generally harder than the ones he's already taken, and he's only hitting 36% of those right now? I think Tatum's a good shooter, but he's not some generational or even elite one. The 43% from his first year was bolstered by taking only about 3 per game (as opposed to the elite shooters who are up above 6 or 7), and hitting an unsustainable clip from the corners.

Welp... here's the comparison of Tatum's shooting during his first two years to Ray Allen's first two years.

                             Age     2p%  3p%  3PA
Ray Allen
96-97                     21     .448  .393    3.6
97-98                     22     .453  .364    4.5

Jayson Tatum
17-18                     19    .492   .434    3.0
18-19                     20    .487   .369    4.5

The kid's a generational talent...

Do you know how many rookies have shot at least 39% on 3PTs (2.0+ attempts per game) in just the past four seasons?

19 rookies.  Just since 2016. “Generational” is a stretch.

Ahhh yes, but how many rookies have shot .43+ from 3 in the last four years on 2+ attempts?

Ohhhh… I'll save you the time, just one.  Tatum... But I'm guessing you already knew that since you carefully cherry-picked the parameters of your post.

But do you also know the last Rookie to shoot .43+ from 3 on 2+ attempts?... Steph Curry in 2009.

I stand by my claim that he's a generational talent, but please, don't let facts get in the way of your arguement.

Actually it was Josh Richardson. Immediately before Steph it was D.J. Augustin and Anthony Morrow.

As for “carefully cherry picking”, I used the parameter you set: Ray’s rookie season.

Now, go look at the sophomores who have shot 36.9% from 3PT.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=2&season_end=2&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fg3a_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=2.0&c2stat=fg3_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=.369&c3stat=g&c3comp=gt&c3val=40&order_by=season

Generational?

[GreenCoffeeBean]

Not at all. Offensively they are very different. The only thing they have in common is that neither should be a starter currently. Without a semi-complete game you can only be a role player.