Two plays by marcus

[Ilikesports17]

I fully appreciate Marcus's abilities on defense, the boards etc.  I do not consider myself a detractor.  But I cannot think of another Celtic Guard whose play was as limited and poor on offense as Marcus.  His choices are just too often wrong.  Whether it is a drive that isn't there or a shot that isn't there or a forced pass--and his improvement in this area is very slow.

Looking back --defensive comparisons are = DJ , KC Jones, Don Chaney, Tony Allen-- but all, even Chaney & Allen, were significantly better at running the offense and finishing their own offense than Marcus.  Satch Sanders may have been as limited as Marcus on offense but he was not a guard and never a PG.

Marcus is young enough to improve his decision making on offense but his progress is slow and as much as he helps on one end he really hurts us on the other some games.

the idea that Tony Allen was better than Marcus Smart at running the offense is ridiculous.

  You are right on that, did not want to get too wordy breaking down each player, Tony was a better scorer and finisher but seldom allowed to run the offense.  And Marcus has run the offense better this year but still makes bad choices too often  --and it does hurt us.

Understandable.

Smart's lack of explosion and finishing ability is my biggest concern for him. I think he will eventually figure out how to hit wide-open catch and shoot threes, but his incompetence in getting to and finishing at the rim is pretty devastating and is the reason he will never be so much as an average scorer.

[rollie mass]

Also Marcus first season was marred by a high ankle sprain that had him out for months and bothered him till mid summer.He had hindered lift and first step
Then in summer league dislocated his fingers and to top it off missed till January with a dislocated knee.
These are not run of the mill injuries but catastrophic for a basketball player.
Detractors must not be players that really don't know what a gift Marcus has been
.He had a bad patch with his free throws and brought that up to 81%.

Just imagine Marcus as he held his ground to take a charge against a 6-9 power forward or how he ripped the ball by going up and over Marcieff to take away an offensive rebound and certain basket by Marcief or at 22 tasked to stop Millsap in the playoffs or a 7-3 center-

[celtics2030]

Like I said and on cue...

Marcus Smart's supporters come in here and the excuses range from injuries in his first and second year to having potential drinking problems to mentally damaged from IT's sister's passing.

Incredible to say the least.

Not that he is incapable of going to the basket. Not that he does not have NBA capable speed. Not that he is one of the worst shooters in the history of the NBA.

"Insane defense"

More exaggeration. Is he a versatile defender? Sure, he is a great tool to have on the team for that reason. Can he play good one on one defense when need be. Yes. Although he still will get beat from time to time , like any good defender in the league. His defense is not "insane".


Spare with the "CLUTCH" offense thing. He made one or two shots that were big and now he is a big clutch offensive player lol. Some of you kill me.

[Ilikesports17]

Like I said and on cue...

Marcus Smart's supporters come in here and the excuses range from injuries in his first and second year to having potential drinking problems to mentally damaged from IT's sister's passing.

Incredible to say the least.

Not that he is incapable of going to the basket. Not that he does not have NBA capable speed. Not that he is one of the worst shooters in the history of the NBA.

"Insane defense"

More exaggeration. Is he a versatile defender? Sure, he is a great tool to have on the team for that reason. Can he play good one on one defense when need be. Yes. Although he still will get beat from time to time , like any good defender in the league. His defense is not "insane".

Marcus in the last 5 minutes had a drive that ended up as a lost ball , and had a ill advised shot that he threw up that had 0 chance to go in, yet he questioned why he didn't get a call. So yes he will make winning plays from time to time, but he will also make huge mistakes.

Spare with the "CLUTCH" offense thing. He made one or two shots that were big and now he is a big clutch offensive player lol. Some of you kill me.

I dont think its out of the question that Marcus suffered a concussion when his head smashed against the floor. He has played the two worst playoff games of his career since that moment.

the second I saw that replay I though for sure they would pull him out of the game, but he didnt even get an evaluation.

Brad Stevens has been quoted saying he believes Marcus will make the big shots, so the idea that he is a clutch player isnt some fantasy Celtics fans have concocted.

Look, Smart is obviously a very limited player. Everyone knows this. I mean if you really want to pat yourself on the back for outsmarting the one bozo out there who thinks Smart is gonna start scoring 20 points a game, thats fine, but thats really a tiny tiny percentage of 'Smart supporters'.

[celtics2030]

Like I said and on cue...

Marcus Smart's supporters come in here and the excuses range from injuries in his first and second year to having potential drinking problems to mentally damaged from IT's sister's passing.

Incredible to say the least.

Not that he is incapable of going to the basket. Not that he does not have NBA capable speed. Not that he is one of the worst shooters in the history of the NBA.

"Insane defense"

More exaggeration. Is he a versatile defender? Sure, he is a great tool to have on the team for that reason. Can he play good one on one defense when need be. Yes. Although he still will get beat from time to time , like any good defender in the league. His defense is not "insane".

Marcus in the last 5 minutes had a drive that ended up as a lost ball , and had a ill advised shot that he threw up that had 0 chance to go in, yet he questioned why he didn't get a call. So yes he will make winning plays from time to time, but he will also make huge mistakes.

Spare with the "CLUTCH" offense thing. He made one or two shots that were big and now he is a big clutch offensive player lol. Some of you kill me.

I dont think its out of the question that Marcus suffered a concussion when his head smashed against the floor. He has played the two worst playoff games of his career since that moment.

the second I saw that replay I though for sure they would pull him out of the game, but he didnt even get an evaluation.

Brad Stevens has been quoted saying he believes Marcus will make the big shots, so the idea that he is a clutch player isnt some fantasy Celtics fans have concocted.

Look, Smart is obviously a very limited player. Everyone knows this. I mean if you really want to pat yourself on the back for outsmarting the one bozo out there who thinks Smart is gonna start scoring 20 points a game, thats fine, but thats really a tiny tiny percentage of 'Smart supporters'.

He didn't even have a bad game , he had 7 rebounds and 6 assists and one of his better games after that. I am not saying you are looking for an excuse but you might be fishing for one. Marcus has had a lot of dud playoff games.

Brad is talking out of his arse. Big shot Smart, yea right, the guy can't create his own shot. When was the last time he made a big shot? Let me know. He is no way a clutch player. I guess Rozier is as clutch as they come too.

Everyone doesn't know that, evidence by them trying to make me and others look like a fool with false statements. My argument is not with Smart , I respect who he is. Mine is with the fans.

Smart just seems to be a guy that people will say anything to make him seem better than he is. Which is understandable. Someone though has to be real about him.

[rollie mass]

detractor- that shot by Marcus was after a penetration started by Isaiah with 7 seconds
Isaiah then forced out a  loopy bail out pass that Marcus had to throw up with no time on clock-2:42 in 4th quarter.   NOOOOO TIME

i would love to dislocate your fingers then your knee after not playing playing till January and judge your stats
Isaiahs grief hit me hard as i lost a brother to tragedy so did marcus

There was a marked difference in the celts as they lost two on home court.
 Then in next series that head wack to marcus was hard, real hard
-Are you denying the severity of his injuries and time missed and time he took to recover-he had no lift and couldn't drive his whole rookie season
Isn't that time injured and time recovering part of his so called slow progress-He came back in january last year after a dislocated knee after dislocated fingers-How badly does that effect ones shot?-i know from experience...

i just watched your so called wild shot your view was complete fabrication
-Your the crazy one and did you see in previous play smart wall off his defender in the paint giving Crowder a corridor to hoop -
Crowder got fouled from behind--

You must complain over a hang nail

[celtics2030]

detractor- that shot by Marcus was after a penetration started by Isaiah with 7 seconds
Isaiah then forced out a  loopy bail out pass that Marcus had to throw up with no time on clock-2:42 in 4th quarter.   NOOOOO TIME

i would love to dislocate your fingers then your knee after not playing playing till January and judge your stats
Isaiahs grief hit me hard as i lost a brother to tragedy so did marcus

There was a marked difference in the celts as they lost two on home court.
 Then in next series that head wack to marcus was hard, real hard
-Are you denying the severity of his injuries and time missed and time he took to recover-he had no lift and couldn't drive his whole rookie season
Isn't that time injured and time recovering part of his so called slow progress-He came back in january last year after a dislocated knee after dislocated fingers-How badly does that effect ones shot?-i know from experience...

i just watched your so called wild shot your view was complete fabrication
-Your the crazy one and did you see in previous play smart wall off his defender in the paint giving Crowder a corridor to hoop -
Crowder got fouled from behind--

You must complain over a hang nail

I don't care how much time he had and what situation he had, that was the worst attempt at a shot I have ever seen. Like he quit on it before he even had a chance to make it. Pathetic no matter what It was. It's not like he had 2 seconds when he got it. The guy is a headache to watch on offense. He is without a doubt one of the worst offensive players to ever hit the court.

[rollie mass]

He had no time on clock when he got it Isaiah started his drive at 7 seconds got into the paint and twisted in mid air to throw a slow loopy pass to Marcus.There was no time on clock, thats no time therefore he just let it fly-
 End of discussion as your contempt is palpable.

[slamtheking]

This is what Smart fans have to realize

It's not that he won't, it's that he can't.

He is and always will be limited.

The Smart fans think he is better than he is.

The Smart detractors have a better grasp on reality. The reality is that they like me, appreciate his special skills and his toughness, no doubt about it. The difference is we realize his limitations and how huge they are.

well if they don't like Marcus, I guess they have to like somebody.

[celtics2030]

He had no time on clock when he got it Isaiah started his drive at 7 seconds got into the paint and twisted in mid air to throw a slow loopy pass to Marcus.There was no time on clock, thats no time therefore he just let it fly-
 End of discussion as your contempt is palpable.

Dude just stop. It's hilarious what people will do to give an excuse. He got the ball with 5 seconds.

How many times a game do we see this.

Yet he gets off the worst shot in history. One handed off one leg. Is he that bad? That bad that with 5 seconds he makes the shot attempt 0 percent of going in? Yes actually he is that bad.