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Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2017, 09:00:05 PM »

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Sorry, when did the LeBron steroids rumor start?

Realllly doubt that dude is juicing...
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Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2017, 09:00:44 PM »

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I agree JB has to keep his speed. He did a decent job in Portland. As did Rozier who is still showing positives just unfortunate team is stacked at both guard spots when AB gets back.

I do feel you have to mix in guys to keep them sharp. If the C's played the same 10 guys every game other players wouldn't be able to step right in when there is trouble.

Rozier is the real deal as a prospect, but there just isn't room for him. I agree. It's too bad the point differential is fairly low, meaning not much garbage time.

Rozier, Green and Zeller don't seem to play if everyone is healthy and no one deserves to be put in the scrub doghouse.

You are right. It's good to have a lot of next guys. We'd be scrambling in fifth place or something if Brown and Smart weren't ready. This has become quite a good stretch of months after the mediocre start.

I'm killing time for before the Utah game.

Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2017, 09:16:40 PM »

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I have to agree with nickagneta


Although the ideas in the OP are interesting, a better suited title would have served the thread better

This doesn't mean CelticPride2016 has to give up spontaneous writing. But deciding/revising the title after finishing writing the first message would seem like good practice.

Everything written was connected. Rozier is a class act, but there's no room for him because he's kind of one-dimensional. Same with Green, who seems to be a total ball hog. Jaylen Brown as an effective shooting guard changes everything.

Sully going for fast food made his butt bigger which gave the Dwight Howards fits. I thought he looked skinny in Toronto signifying he betrayed us, but that's going way off topic.

PG I.T., Smart
SG Smart, Brown
SF Jae, Jaylen
PF Amir, Kelly, Al
C Al, Kelly, Amir

That's our core. Bradley coming back will shake that up. Amir and Kelly are living now or never Celtics days. They are running out of games to convince Danny to resign them. It's all very interesting and connected.

Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2017, 09:28:09 PM »

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I still think the best possible comparison for JB is McGrady. He's pretty similar in terms of skill and athleticism. T Mac didn't bulk up too much, but enough to the point where he could play 2 and 3 like Jaylen is currently doing. I agree with OP, adding some weight to be able to cover guys is a good idea, but maybe not so much to where he might have to play 4. Crowder can do that because his overall build is bigger. Jaylen is very skinny.

I don't remember that guy, but maybe Reggie Lewis? I see Jaylen making plays that only certain could or can like Dr. J, Michael Jordan and Isaiah Thomas. Smart is special like that on defense, but that's not glamorous enough for some folks.

Yes, I think Jaylen and Jae can complement each other. Smart is versatile, too. I am confident going into every game as long as we stay healthy.

And I am not trying to undercut Jerebko. He is our only pure four. He is solid. I think he should sit out a week or two. He's a mess or at least looked like it in the last game.

We can get guys healthy and still win games by stretching out the roster, but still gutting it out mostly through the core. The top eight players need to get it done. You don't want a frazzled Brad Stevens. James Young. This would be a big win tonight. Utah looks real, the opposite of Houston and the Clippers. I still tip my hat to Memphis, a solid team identity for many years, although they look cooked. Good job, good effort.

Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2017, 07:44:03 AM »

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I think Jaylen could put on a good 10-15 pounds of muscle quite easily which would only help him under contact and arguably harder to guard. It would help him defend NBA small forwards like Lebron.
We saw what Iguaodala's strength was like vs Lebron in the finals- it's an asset.

He is a bull and will probably put on some more muscle but don't worry, it won't weigh him down, it will make him even harder to stop.
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Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2017, 09:16:38 AM »

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Confused as **** this thread!

But I tend to agree with that second to last sentence about Avery, a situation is developing between Marcus, Avery, IT. All are going to demand biiiig money (yes, I include Marcus). Really hard to blow 80mill on three guys (not forgetting that including Al's deal puts us over the cap).

Avery is feelin more and more like the odd man out, and yes, having Jaylen as a 6'7 starting 2-spot who is a solid contributor makes losing Avery stomachable.

He's actually similar to LeBron. Height, body, skillset. I don't think it will hurt his speed to get a bit bigger.

Y'all are just saying that cos Jaylen has been able to step up so far, and IT being supernova. We still need Avery for sure.
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Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2017, 09:38:49 AM »

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I still think the best possible comparison for JB is McGrady. He's pretty similar in terms of skill and athleticism. T Mac didn't bulk up too much, but enough to the point where he could play 2 and 3 like Jaylen is currently doing. I agree with OP, adding some weight to be able to cover guys is a good idea, but maybe not so much to where he might have to play 4. Crowder can do that because his overall build is bigger. Jaylen is very skinny.
Not a bad comp, but the big difference is that T-Mac was about 6'10" as a SF so defenses had trouble matching up.

My comp for Jaylen is James Worthy.  Some of you young posters should watch some video, like those great Lakers-Celtics games of the 80's.

Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2017, 09:40:22 AM »

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I have compared Jaylen Brown to a guy like Dwayne Wade. Obviously, if Brown can be 75% of D-Wade, we're in luck. But just in terms of explosiveness, getting to the rim, drawing fouls, getting out in transition. Wade bulked up a fair amount early in his career and it made a big difference. It's more about the ability to play through contact, own the post, and stay in the game than it is for changing your game.

Disclaimer: yes, I know Wade and Brown have many differences. That's just who I think of.
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Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2017, 09:57:25 AM »

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JB needs to greatly improve his ball handling skills and ball protection when driving to the basket.

Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2017, 10:10:56 AM »

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Sorry, when did the LeBron steroids rumor start?

Realllly doubt that dude is juicing...

Around 2009 when he had surgery on his parotid gland!!!  Research what this gland does.

Here is a little information about HGH that you might find VERY interesting!!!

Side Effects Of HGH?

Human Growth Hormone (HGH) is known by medical professionals as somatotropin. Human Growth Hormone is a substance created by the pituitary gland in children and adolescent youth that stimulates the production of growth and cell reproduction, primarily in height growth, i.e. large bones.

Human Growth Hormone primarily stimulates division and multiplication of cartilage and chondrocytes (cells in the growing ends of children’s long bones (legs, arms, fingers and toes). HGH also acts on the liver to stimulate the production of Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I). IGF-I also promotes bone growth. The level of HGH and IGF-I tends to decrease with age.

Problems associated with HGH are like many other hormones in the human body. You can have too much, or you can have to little. If there is too much HGH in the blood, it is called Excessive Growth Hormone, also known as acromegaly or pituitary gigantism. This disease is essentially a benign adenomas or tumor that grows on the cells of the anterior pituitary.

As it grows, it produces more and more Growth Hormone. Symptoms will manifest as the tumor becomes large enough to cause headaches or impairs one’s vision due to pressure on the optic nerve. If untreated, Excessive Growth Hormone will cause thickening of the bones, particularly the jaw-bone, fingers and toes. The treatment for Excessive Growth Hormone due to secreting tumor is the removal of the tumor. In some cases, a treatment of focused radiation can be used to shrink the tumor.

A misconception brought on by the media is that HGH Excess because of Gigantism is a side effect of using growth hormone in a healthy body. It is possible to develop Gigantism in an adolescent that has not yet reached puberty. Gigantism or acromegaly is a disease that is essentially a benign adenomas or tumor that grows on the cells of the anterior pituitary. As it grows, it produces more and more growth hormone, causing HGH Excess.

It is important to understand that “HGH producing” supplements have not been available for very long and the long-term effects of using these products are unknown. Mary Lee Vance of the University of Virginia said in an editorial, “Because there are so many unanswered questions about the use of growth hormone in the elderly and in adults with growth hormone deficiency, its general use now or in the immediate future is not justified.”

There are many products available, HGH by prescription and “HGH producing” supplements that are available over the counter. Caution should always be taken; seek a doctor’s advice before administering growth hormone or “HGH producing supplements” to ensure all of your options are considered.



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Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2017, 04:00:22 PM »

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Re: Jaylen Brown shouldn't bulk up too much
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2017, 07:33:04 PM »

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Thanks Smitty77.

That's a good idea. I searched "parotid gland and steroids lebron james" and found plenty.

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Sorry, when did the LeBron steroids rumor start?

Realllly doubt that dude is juicing...

That must have been sarcasm?

"Did Bill Simmons Hint That LeBron James Took A Steroid Vacation?"
http://uproxx.com/dimemag/did-bill-simmons-hint-that-lebron-james-took-a-steroid-vacation/

I think Kevin Garnett was on HGH his last couple years with us. It got to the point that of the Big Three, he was the one who seemed to have found the fountain of youth.

I think DWade was on steroids. His jaw got huge? I mean, if you saw someone with watery eyes, a huge grin and a big bag of cheetos, you'd assume the person was on marijuana. It's the same with steroids. There are side effects and they are noticeable. The writer in the above link refers to LeBron as a "whiny tyrant." That could be steroid rage.

Basketball is a graceful, athletic sport which would be better off without freaks on steroids, and subsequently, without refs who make up calls on the freaks' behalf because the NBA conspiracy feels it's good for television ratings.