Tommy Heinsohn willed the win

[CelticPride2016]

This looked like a loss, but Tommy said we would win, and that's exactly what happened.

Olynyk was an unexpected did not play due to a shoulder issue. The great thing about tonight's win was it was against a good team. I think home court advantage for the playoffs is important. We'd have never won it all in 2008 without it.

Our crowd was very quiet through most of the game. But as the team "pecked and pecked," the fans started to give the team a big boost. Lowry missed a couple key free throws. I thought he would use the negative energy to hit them. He didn't. Those were key misses.

I don't understand for the life of me what was up with the refs on the Toronto shot which barely hit the rim. Then a Raptor rebounded and shot it up and it ended up hitting the top of the backboard. They went to the replay center. Both coaches were turning it into a full coaching session. Then the ball went to Toronto. It made no sense.

But we won anyway as Isaiah and Marcus did what they do in the fourth. Isaiah has probably been reading the long threads at Celtics Blog and we are the ones putting the chip on his shoulder.

I am just unsure he is worth the full money. He's definitely worth a lot, but we are talking silly money. The stars who must have it all are taking money away from their teammates and the GM.

Someone please explain how Sully got skinny? Why didn't he do that as a Celtic? He is no better than a Benedict Arnold who betrayed us.

I still think we need a center. Horford was downright miserable. I like Amir and Al. I like Olynyk and Jerebko. Zeller played tonight with aggression and I liked it. I have wanted to condemn him as a scrub, but if he can more often duplicate the passion he showed tonight, maybe he is a serviceable scrub.

This is the crazy, silly season every year just like Tommy and Mike said. These guys on every team don't know if they're coming or going. These seasons drag on. One article I read a few days ago said that 80% of all seeds are set in stone by this time of year. So it becomes a drag to be excited for every game.

That's the value of having a chip on one's shoulder. It keeps one focused and disciplined. It makes one realize that one is alive.

These are the kind of seasons to try to steal titles.

Marcus Smart is already better than Tony Allen ever was.

Isaiah can drag down the defense, but he upgrades the offense even more.

Horford, come on.

Horford looks like a younger Avery Bradley choking at the rim. He does seem automatic with the back in down low, then fade away off the backboard shot. I'll give him that. But for someone who can dribble as good as he does, he is lame at the rim unless it's a dunk or very easy layup or those isolation towards the paint with controlled backboard shots. The problem to me is he seems to lack energy. He was much better when he first came back from the concussion. We need that Al Horford. We can win it all. Cleveland is already showing vulnerability and Golden State could get some injuries.

We are in the hunt contending for a title. We are making the leap from top ten to top five team.

[CelticPride2016]

No way am I stopping at 666 for posts. This makes it 667.

[trickybilly]

No way am I stopping at 666 for posts. This makes it 667.

Lol

[jbpats]

I don't understand for the life of me what was up with the refs on the Toronto shot which barely hit the rim. Then a Raptor rebounded and shot it up and it ended up hitting the top of the backboard. They went to the replay center. Both coaches were turning it into a full coaching session. Then the ball went to Toronto. It made no sense.

Can somebody with a higher basketball IQ explain this one to me also? I'd assume it was because the shot clock was never reset, but be that as it may Carroll still launched the second shot over the backboard before the shot clock buzzer sounded. I could not believe Toronto was awarded the ball after review. That was a major call at a pivotal time in the game.

Asides from that I also loved how Tommy predicted the C's win multiple times throughout the game, I am probably just as much as a homer as he, but I knew we were going to come back and win also.

[celtics2030]

This looked like a loss, but Tommy said we would win, and that's exactly what happened.

Olynyk was an unexpected did not play due to a shoulder issue. The great thing about tonight's win was it was against a good team. I think home court advantage for the playoffs is important. We'd have never won it all in 2008 without it.

Our crowd was very quiet through most of the game. But as the team "pecked and pecked," the fans started to give the team a big boost. Lowry missed a couple key free throws. I thought he would use the negative energy to hit them. He didn't. Those were key misses.

I don't understand for the life of me what was up with the refs on the Toronto shot which barely hit the rim. Then a Raptor rebounded and shot it up and it ended up hitting the top of the backboard. They went to the replay center. Both coaches were turning it into a full coaching session. Then the ball went to Toronto. It made no sense.

But we won anyway as Isaiah and Marcus did what they do in the fourth. Isaiah has probably been reading the long threads at Celtics Blog and we are the ones putting the chip on his shoulder.

I am just unsure he is worth the full money. He's definitely worth a lot, but we are talking silly money. The stars who must have it all are taking money away from their teammates and the GM.

Someone please explain how Sully got skinny? Why didn't he do that as a Celtic? He is no better than a Benedict Arnold who betrayed us.

I still think we need a center. Horford was downright miserable. I like Amir and Al. I like Olynyk and Jerebko. Zeller played tonight with aggression and I liked it. I have wanted to condemn him as a scrub, but if he can more often duplicate the passion he showed tonight, maybe he is a serviceable scrub.

This is the crazy, silly season every year just like Tommy and Mike said. These guys on every team don't know if they're coming or going. These seasons drag on. One article I read a few days ago said that 80% of all seeds are set in stone by this time of year. So it becomes a drag to be excited for every game.

That's the value of having a chip on one's shoulder. It keeps one focused and disciplined. It makes one realize that one is alive.

These are the kind of seasons to try to steal titles.

Marcus Smart is already better than Tony Allen ever was.

Isaiah can drag down the defense, but he upgrades the offense even more.

Horford, come on.

Horford looks like a younger Avery Bradley choking at the rim. He does seem automatic with the back in down low, then fade away off the backboard shot. I'll give him that. But for someone who can dribble as good as he does, he is lame at the rim unless it's a dunk or very easy layup or those isolation towards the paint with controlled backboard shots. The problem to me is he seems to lack energy. He was much better when he first came back from the concussion. We need that Al Horford. We can win it all. Cleveland is already showing vulnerability and Golden State could get some injuries.

We are in the hunt contending for a title. We are making the leap from top ten to top five team.

Marcus Smart can do know wrong, even when he does.

[KingChre]

Can somebody with a higher basketball IQ explain this one to me also? I'd assume it was because the shot clock was never reset, but be that as it may Carroll still launched the second shot over the backboard before the shot clock buzzer sounded. I could not believe Toronto was awarded the ball after review. That was a major call at a pivotal time in the game.

Asides from that I also loved how Tommy predicted the C's win multiple times throughout the game, I am probably just as much as a homer as he, but I knew we were going to come back and win also.

I believe after the review determined the ball had in fact hit the rim the call technically became an inadvertent whistle, and when he blew the whistle, the Toronto player had the ball. The shot clock reset, which is why they gave the ball to Toronto with 23 seconds left on the shot clock.

I was up in arms as well, but after I rewatched the sequence a couple times, I realized that they probably got it right.

[BitterJim]

Can somebody with a higher basketball IQ explain this one to me also? I'd assume it was because the shot clock was never reset, but be that as it may Carroll still launched the second shot over the backboard before the shot clock buzzer sounded. I could not believe Toronto was awarded the ball after review. That was a major call at a pivotal time in the game.

Asides from that I also loved how Tommy predicted the C's win multiple times throughout the game, I am probably just as much as a homer as he, but I knew we were going to come back and win also.

I believe after the review determined the ball had in fact hit the rim the call technically became an inadvertent whistle, and when he blew the whistle, the Toronto player had the ball. The shot clock reset, which is why they gave the ball to Toronto with 23 seconds left on the shot clock.

I was up in arms as well, but after I rewatched the sequence a couple times, I realized that they probably got it right.

That seems like it will probably be the explanation. We'll see when the L2M report gets released

[jbpats]

Can somebody with a higher basketball IQ explain this one to me also? I'd assume it was because the shot clock was never reset, but be that as it may Carroll still launched the second shot over the backboard before the shot clock buzzer sounded. I could not believe Toronto was awarded the ball after review. That was a major call at a pivotal time in the game.

Asides from that I also loved how Tommy predicted the C's win multiple times throughout the game, I am probably just as much as a homer as he, but I knew we were going to come back and win also.

I believe after the review determined the ball had in fact hit the rim the call technically became an inadvertent whistle, and when he blew the whistle, the Toronto player had the ball. The shot clock reset, which is why they gave the ball to Toronto with 23 seconds left on the shot clock.

I was up in arms as well, but after I rewatched the sequence a couple times, I realized that they probably got it right.

That seems like it will probably be the explanation. We'll see when the L2M report gets released

Probably just my green tinted glasses but I definitely think they got it wrong, like I said it appeared that Carroll launched the follow up shot before the whistle was blown, which leads me to believe he also thought the shot missed rim, that's on him.

[KingChre]

Probably just my green tinted glasses but I definitely think they got it wrong, like I said it appeared that Carroll launched the follow up shot before the whistle was blown, which leads me to believe he also thought the shot missed rim, that's on him.

An easier way of looking at it is disregarding the actual whistle that was blown, and ignoring the shot that Carroll took. All that matters is that he rebounded the missed shot. The play was technically dead before he took the shot, so that is irrelevant to the ruling.

[gift]

Can somebody with a higher basketball IQ explain this one to me also? I'd assume it was because the shot clock was never reset, but be that as it may Carroll still launched the second shot over the backboard before the shot clock buzzer sounded. I could not believe Toronto was awarded the ball after review. That was a major call at a pivotal time in the game.

Asides from that I also loved how Tommy predicted the C's win multiple times throughout the game, I am probably just as much as a homer as he, but I knew we were going to come back and win also.

I believe after the review determined the ball had in fact hit the rim the call technically became an inadvertent whistle, and when he blew the whistle, the Toronto player had the ball. The shot clock reset, which is why they gave the ball to Toronto with 23 seconds left on the shot clock.

I was up in arms as well, but after I rewatched the sequence a couple times, I realized that they probably got it right.

The only problem with the inadvertent whistle argument is that they reviewed the play, not the whistle. An inadvertent whistle wouldn't need to be replayed. So clearly there was a ruling on the court that needed to be reviewed.

It was an unfortunate situation and there was no easy way to handle the miss. But the way they handled it required that they actually needed to ignore what happened on the court in favor of what they thought might have happened had the call been made correctly in the first place.

[KingChre]

I believe after the review determined the ball had in fact hit the rim the call technically became an inadvertent whistle, and when he blew the whistle, the Toronto player had the ball. The shot clock reset, which is why they gave the ball to Toronto with 23 seconds left on the shot clock.

I was up in arms as well, but after I rewatched the sequence a couple times, I realized that they probably got it right.

The only problem with the inadvertent whistle argument is that they reviewed the play, not the whistle. An inadvertent whistle wouldn't need to be replayed. So clearly there was a ruling on the court that needed to be reviewed.

It was an unfortunate situation and there was no easy way to handle the miss. But the way they handled it required that they actually needed to ignore what happened on the court in favor of what they thought might have happened had the call been made correctly in the first place.

In reference to the two bolded points above...I could have been clearer I guess, but the review determined that the call be changed to an inadvertent whistle.

On the second point, that is correct, and surprisingly, that is how they are supposed to officiate in that situation. Its frustrating, but they really didn't screw anything up.