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Re: Isaiah Thomas Is Averaging 28.0 PPG (5th Best In Entire NBA)
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2017, 11:21:46 AM »

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eFG% is the best, for obvious reasons. It is why so many darn 3's are taken.

Re: Isaiah Thomas Is Averaging 28.0 PPG (5th Best In Entire NBA)
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2017, 11:23:20 AM »

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Good point...the Celtics have a premium scorer now.

But I think we are all wondering about the playoffs.  His production has fallen off a cliff.

Will that trend continue this year?

Last year he averaged 22 points per game in the regular season and 24 points per game in the playoffs, so I'm not sure what cliff you're talking about.

Specifically his percentages:
Regular Season w/BOS: FG% - 43.3% / 3P% - 36.1%

Playoffs: FG% - 37.6% / 3P% - 25.0%

Yeah, that's more what we call efficiency than production.  Considering no one else could even make an open basket vs. Atlanta, I don't know why you're worried about IT.  If the team isn't down 2-3 of its best shooters, IT will be fine.  If they are, as they were last year, it won't really matter.  Once Atlanta realized after game 4 that they just needed to force IT to pass, it was all over.

The disappearing for the playoffs is a tired argument for a guy who single-handedly won game 3 and was the principle reason we won game 4.

Fair enough...you've made some good points...thanks!

Re: Isaiah Thomas Is Averaging 28.0 PPG (5th Best In Entire NBA)
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2017, 11:47:45 AM »

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eFG% is the best, for obvious reasons. It is why so many darn 3's are taken.

eFG% is the best for measuring 'shooting efficiency' from the floor on official FGA taken, but TS% is better for measuring actual 'scoring efficiency' on scoring attempts. 

Both are important and useful, though ultimately the scoreboard cares the most about the latter.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas Is Averaging 28.0 PPG (5th Best In Entire NBA)
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2017, 11:51:10 AM »

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eFG% is the best, for obvious reasons. It is why so many darn 3's are taken.

eFG% is the best for measuring 'shooting efficiency' from the floor on official FGA taken, but TS% is better for measuring actual 'scoring efficiency' on scoring attempts. 

Both are important and useful, though ultimately the scoreboard cares the most about the latter.

Correct.  TS% includes free throws, while eFG% does not.  For someone like IT, who gets to the line nearly nine times per game, and shoots 91% from there, it has a big impact.

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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2017, 12:01:08 PM »

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If you use per 36, IT4 is second in the league in scoring.

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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2017, 05:43:01 PM »

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If you use per 36, IT4 is second in the league in scoring.

All the more impressive. TP for that stat (I didn't know it originally).

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Re: Isaiah Thomas Is Averaging 28.0 PPG (5th Best In Entire NBA)
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2017, 05:55:01 PM »

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Gilbert Arenas hit those numbers, not quite as efficient, but not terribly inefficient either.  If we were talking about Gilbert Arenas, would you feel the same way?  What about Alex English?  Adrian Dantley?  World B. Free?  Dale Ellis?  Bernard King?  Jerry Stackhouse?  All players in the same general production range (some bigger so more rebounds and less assists). 

I'm not suggesting Thomas isn't better than those players, but he might not be either, and none of those guys were ever #1 or even #2 type players on contending teams.

You are so over the top some times most people have stopped responding to you. If you want to include a player like Jerry Stackhouse that averaged 29 points in 40mph on 40% shooting with less assists and twice as many turnovers once 15 years ago for a that won 32 games it really makes it look like you don't understand the game very much.