Why the NBA is terrified, Cousins to the Celtics

[Rosco917]

What makes you think we have a chance to acquire Cousins? Other than in free agency where he would literally give up millions, and millions of dollars to come to frosty Boston, rather than stay in Sacramento where I'm sure his entire family is tucked in nice and tight.

Has he requested a trade? Has he even expressed a desire to play anywhere else ever? Has he even stated he's tired of loosing year after year, and not making the playoffs? No. Actually he seams quite content in warm, sunny Sacramento. Face it...some players don't care about winning a championship, they just pretend they do. They want to get as much cash as they can before they retire.

Next, the Kings are building a new half Billion dollar arena, why on earth would they, and their investors rid themselves of their number one commodity, and draw before this arena is complete? No matter how poor his actions are.

Until I hear him say, "I want out of Sacramento, I want to win a championship with another team"
I'm not going to get excited.



 

I don't get what you say. Seems that there is no chance for a trade to be done if a player doesn't express his desire to be traded in public. You really think that??

Read the second part...The Kings are building a new arena, the odds of him being traded before completion is very low. We're talking a 500 million dollars build. Would you just dump the organizations greatest asset. NO.

What I'm saying is Cousins never express be fed-up with the loosing. And the owners are building a new arena...put two and two together.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a Cousins type talent heading to the C's. I'm just not hearing Cousins desire to leave, nor the Kings being stupid enough to dump Cousins before they open their new show place.  i.e. they have investors to consider.

you may have answered your own question.  Cousins is just an asset at this point. 

Not a leader, not a game-changer, not indispensable to a winning culture. 

His sole worth right now is as an asset, and assets are meant to be cashed in, preferably when value is high.  That sell-high window closes in approx. two months, after which he becomes a lost cause that either leaves Sac high and dry, or they end up paying handsomely to lead them to more 30 win seasons.

Honestly, if i'm in ownerships shoes, I'd want a fresh start to go with a new arena.  Young teams that play hard get fan's excited, give them a reason to come back out to see the team play.  Would you go pay good money to watch DC's perpetual sour puss?  I don't see the entertainment value in that. 
 
It'd be different if he affected winning.  But Cousins, for all his talent, doesn't win games. 

Even last year, with Rondo playing well and a vet scorer on the wing in Gay, they couldn't crack the playoffs.  Keeping him now all but guarantees another five trips to the lotto.   

Now you're touching on another point completely.

IT and Cousins have already been paired together, with poor results. We don't have a Rudy Gay type of scorer in our lineup. What makes you think if we do bring in Cousins, we'll have enough left to really
contend. Do we want to experience the "sour puss"?

IMO The only way the Kings organization part with DC on the cheap, is if he informs them he wants to be traded. Other than that, they will ask for the moon. I hear him complain a little, but I don't read any type of demand to be traded.

This all opinion on my part. I listen to all the dreaming going on, and wonder, what are the odds?

[mmmmm]

Is the new arena not finished? I thought they moved into a new arena earlier this season.

Yes.  Golden 1 Center opened in September.  The Kings are playing there already this season.

Attendance is up slightly over last year, from 16,586/gm to 17,256/gm.

If that holds, that would represent their highest per-game attendance since 2006-07 (17,317/gm).

[Sixth Man]

Is the new arena not finished? I thought they moved into a new arena earlier this season.

Yes.  Golden 1 Center opened in September.  The Kings are playing there already this season.

Attendance is up slightly over last year, from 16,586/gm to 17,256/gm.

If that holds, that would represent their highest per-game attendance since 2006-07 (17,317/gm).

Must be the "New Arena" scent sprayed all over the court and seats.  Don't worry, it will fade into memory soon enough...

[rochrist]

I'm curious as to what Cousins would have to do to disqualify himself in the eyes of the folks that want to trade for him. I certainly don't want him anywhere near this team, and enough old line Celtics players seem to agree with me that I don't think that opinion is unwarranted.

[aingeforthree]

I'm curious as to what Cousins would have to do to disqualify himself in the eyes of the folks that want to trade for him. I certainly don't want him anywhere near this team, and enough old line Celtics players seem to agree with me that I don't think that opinion is unwarranted.

He'd have to start putting up Roy Hibbert type numbers.

That's the only way he's disqualified.

[Bobshot]

With Cousins, the Celtics would be the toughest team in the league, provided they could keep Crowder, Smart and Bradley.

[Kuberski33]

Cousins would be the ultimate crap shoot.  He's 26.  Its time for him to either grow up and get serious about the sport and his legacy - or just be forever remembered as a head case who never hit his enormous potential.  He either matures or doesn't.

If the Celtics guess wrong and get the same guy Sac has had, there goes the franchise for at least the next 5 years.

If I'm paying the salary...I would probably pass - especially with a high pick on the way and 2 cornerstone guys in IT and Horford.  But it's also reasonable to speculate that whoever signs him to his next deal is going to be glad they did. 

[Ilikesports17]

I'm curious as to what Cousins would have to do to disqualify himself in the eyes of the folks that want to trade for him. I certainly don't want him anywhere near this team, and enough old line Celtics players seem to agree with me that I don't think that opinion is unwarranted.

I want him and honestly I cant really imagine a scenario where Id stop wanting him.

His talent level is so high and I think its so hard to evaluate whether or not he is salvageable, mentally, when he is coming from such a mess of an organization.

[rochrist]

I'm curious as to what Cousins would have to do to disqualify himself in the eyes of the folks that want to trade for him. I certainly don't want him anywhere near this team, and enough old line Celtics players seem to agree with me that I don't think that opinion is unwarranted.

I want him and honestly I cant really imagine a scenario where Id stop wanting him.

His talent level is so high and I think its so hard to evaluate whether or not he is salvageable, mentally, when he is coming from such a mess of an organization.

Sure, but the organization isn't responsible for all his crap. Look at this latest thing with the reporter. Or for that matter, look at his relationship to the league and the league's refs.

[D Dub]

What makes you think we have a chance to acquire Cousins? Other than in free agency where he would literally give up millions, and millions of dollars to come to frosty Boston, rather than stay in Sacramento where I'm sure his entire family is tucked in nice and tight.

Has he requested a trade? Has he even expressed a desire to play anywhere else ever? Has he even stated he's tired of loosing year after year, and not making the playoffs? No. Actually he seams quite content in warm, sunny Sacramento. Face it...some players don't care about winning a championship, they just pretend they do. They want to get as much cash as they can before they retire.

Next, the Kings are building a new half Billion dollar arena, why on earth would they, and their investors rid themselves of their number one commodity, and draw before this arena is complete? No matter how poor his actions are.

Until I hear him say, "I want out of Sacramento, I want to win a championship with another team"
I'm not going to get excited.



 

I don't get what you say. Seems that there is no chance for a trade to be done if a player doesn't express his desire to be traded in public. You really think that??

Read the second part...The Kings are building a new arena, the odds of him being traded before completion is very low. We're talking a 500 million dollars build. Would you just dump the organizations greatest asset. NO.

What I'm saying is Cousins never express be fed-up with the loosing. And the owners are building a new arena...put two and two together.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a Cousins type talent heading to the C's. I'm just not hearing Cousins desire to leave, nor the Kings being stupid enough to dump Cousins before they open their new show place.  i.e. they have investors to consider.

you may have answered your own question.  Cousins is just an asset at this point. 

Not a leader, not a game-changer, not indispensable to a winning culture. 

His sole worth right now is as an asset, and assets are meant to be cashed in, preferably when value is high.  That sell-high window closes in approx. two months, after which he becomes a lost cause that either leaves Sac high and dry, or they end up paying handsomely to lead them to more 30 win seasons.

Honestly, if i'm in ownerships shoes, I'd want a fresh start to go with a new arena.  Young teams that play hard get fan's excited, give them a reason to come back out to see the team play.  Would you go pay good money to watch DC's perpetual sour puss?  I don't see the entertainment value in that. 
 
It'd be different if he affected winning.  But Cousins, for all his talent, doesn't win games. 

Even last year, with Rondo playing well and a vet scorer on the wing in Gay, they couldn't crack the playoffs.  Keeping him now all but guarantees another five trips to the lotto.   

Now you're touching on another point completely.

IT and Cousins have already been paired together, with poor results. We don't have a Rudy Gay type of scorer in our lineup. What makes you think if we do bring in Cousins, we'll have enough left to really
contend. Do we want to experience the "sour puss"?

IMO The only way the Kings organization part with DC on the cheap, is if he informs them he wants to be traded. Other than that, they will ask for the moon. I hear him complain a little, but I don't read any type of demand to be traded.

This all opinion on my part. I listen to all the dreaming going on, and wonder, what are the odds?

Well, I'm not advocating *we* trade for him.  I'm just saying the Kings would be foolish to keep him. 

But you never know. 

Both IT and Crowder have flourished here, when they were largely pegged as bench players by teams worse than us.  Next to Horford, surrounded by elite perimeter defenders and led by one of the best p/r guards in the league -- he might show improvement. 

Still, I'd rather not part with more than one BKL pick and salary filler when we'll be the leading team to sign him when he becomes available.  It's not like we'll win the title this year if we sell the farm for him...

[FreddieJ]

What makes you think we have a chance to acquire Cousins? Other than in free agency where he would literally give up millions, and millions of dollars to come to frosty Boston, rather than stay in Sacramento where I'm sure his entire family is tucked in nice and tight.

Has he requested a trade? Has he even expressed a desire to play anywhere else ever? Has he even stated he's tired of loosing year after year, and not making the playoffs? No. Actually he seams quite content in warm, sunny Sacramento. Face it...some players don't care about winning a championship, they just pretend they do. They want to get as much cash as they can before they retire.

Next, the Kings are building a new half Billion dollar arena, why on earth would they, and their investors rid themselves of their number one commodity, and draw before this arena is complete? No matter how poor his actions are.

Until I hear him say, "I want out of Sacramento, I want to win a championship with another team"
I'm not going to get excited.



 

I don't get what you say. Seems that there is no chance for a trade to be done if a player doesn't express his desire to be traded in public. You really think that??

Read the second part...The Kings are building a new arena, the odds of him being traded before completion is very low. We're talking a 500 million dollars build. Would you just dump the organizations greatest asset. NO.

What I'm saying is Cousins never express be fed-up with the loosing. And the owners are building a new arena...put two and two together.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a Cousins type talent heading to the C's. I'm just not hearing Cousins desire to leave, nor the Kings being stupid enough to dump Cousins before they open their new show place.  i.e. they have investors to consider.

you may have answered your own question.  Cousins is just an asset at this point. 

Not a leader, not a game-changer, not indispensable to a winning culture. 

His sole worth right now is as an asset, and assets are meant to be cashed in, preferably when value is high.  That sell-high window closes in approx. two months, after which he becomes a lost cause that either leaves Sac high and dry, or they end up paying handsomely to lead them to more 30 win seasons.

Honestly, if i'm in ownerships shoes, I'd want a fresh start to go with a new arena.  Young teams that play hard get fan's excited, give them a reason to come back out to see the team play.  Would you go pay good money to watch DC's perpetual sour puss?  I don't see the entertainment value in that. 
 
It'd be different if he affected winning.  But Cousins, for all his talent, doesn't win games. 

Even last year, with Rondo playing well and a vet scorer on the wing in Gay, they couldn't crack the playoffs.  Keeping him now all but guarantees another five trips to the lotto.   

Then trick is to put better players around him so it doesn't happen

[CelticSooner]

It's easier said then done. The majority of that video was too matter of fact.

[Rosco917]

I'm curious as to what Cousins would have to do to disqualify himself in the eyes of the folks that want to trade for him. I certainly don't want him anywhere near this team, and enough old line Celtics players seem to agree with me that I don't think that opinion is unwarranted.

I want him and honestly I cant really imagine a scenario where Id stop wanting him.

His talent level is so high and I think its so hard to evaluate whether or not he is salvageable, mentally, when he is coming from such a mess of an organization.

Scenario...he disagrees with Coach Stevens, and continually voices this to the team. How about he takes plays off, while arguing with refs. How about he takes these plays off during the playoff game. How about he gets tossed in a playoff game, and receives a one game suspension. How about he simply can't stop acting like an idiot. How about we end up with a team like the Sacramento Kings.

Do you know what the ramifications would be if the C's traded away their future for DeMarcus Cousins, and he didn't change?

I would love it if the C's got a player with his game, but there is significant risk here.   

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I'm curious as to what Cousins would have to do to disqualify himself in the eyes of the folks that want to trade for him. I certainly don't want him anywhere near this team, and enough old line Celtics players seem to agree with me that I don't think that opinion is unwarranted.

I want him and honestly I cant really imagine a scenario where Id stop wanting him.

His talent level is so high and I think its so hard to evaluate whether or not he is salvageable, mentally, when he is coming from such a mess of an organization.

Scenario...he disagrees with Coach Stevens, and continually voices this to the team. How about he takes plays off, while arguing with refs. How about he takes these plays off during the playoff game. How about he gets tossed in a playoff game, and receives a one game suspension. How about he simply can't stop acting like an idiot. How about we end up with a team like the Sacramento Kings.

Do you know what the ramifications would be if the C's traded away their future for DeMarcus Cousins, and he didn't change?

I would love it if the C's got a player with his game, but there is significant risk here.   

Well, none of us knows the future, so it's also quite possible that Danny declines any deal for Cousins, holds onto all of the team's assets, and none of the draft picks of recent or near-future years even reaches all-star status, much less superstar status.

It's also possible that Danny acquiring Cousins has an effect on the Celtics similar to Shaq's effect on the Lakers: titles.

I also think that the awful entity we know as the Sacramento Kings comprises much more (and much worse aspects) than Cousins, such as bad management, bad team culture, and lack of talent—three things the Celtics don't have to deal with.

[SHAQATTACK]

Dang straight ...bring Boogie to the Celtics ..anytime baby

I don't want the Pope

I want a  fierce intimidating basketball player !