Gordon Hayward Will Prioritize Competing For Title As Free Agent

[SHAQATTACK]

He go take Parker's place with Spurs

[kozlodoev]

So he's not coming here then?

[RJ87]

What do we do with Jae and Jaylen and Gordon? You can trade one, but you're not going to get value for them, since it will be seen as a "forced" trade.

Mike

Count me among those that think's Jae Crowder has become really overrated. He's a nice finishing piece on a title contender, but he's not a foundational guy to me. Hayward is, IMO.

As far as Jaylen, he's still a "could be". I think it would be a real disservice to this team to turn up our noses at upgrading our roster because of what a guy could be.

[Smitty77]

Utah is better than Boston and in a better position to win a title in the next few seasons.  Even if Hayward leaves Utah, it won't be to go to Boston.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  You tend to state your OPINION as fact rather consistently.  You tend to not offer FACTS to support your rather dogmatic statements much of the time.

Smitty77

Utah is 16-10.  That is better than Boston is it not?

The rest was obviously an opinion, but George Hill is comparable to Thomas.  Gobert and Favors are a far better front court than Boston and both are 25 or younger.  Rodney Hood is a rising star.  They have Exum, Mack, and Lyles as youngish guys with potential on the bench and cagey veterans like Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw.  Utah is better than Boston and has a better shot at a title in the next few seasons.  Now sure, long term as a result of the Brooklyn picks, Boston has a chance to overtake Utah, but not in the short term.

First, I think that Hayward is smart enough to KNOW that we have been without Horford for about 10 games, Crowder for about 9, IT for several, and Smart was out too, I believe.  I also think that he is SMART enough to NOT judge a season 26 games in!!!!!

Lyles has a 12.3 PER and Exum has an abysmal 8.5 PER.  JJ is just signed thru next year, so there is absolutely NO assurance that he will be with the Jazz long term.  Favors has regressed a LOT this year and is ONLY signed thru next year as well.  I do like Hood a LOT!!! 

You tend to diminish our strengths and enhance the strengths of other teams!!!  WHY do you do this Moranis?

Please explain yourself to this CELTICS' blog.

Smitty77

[Smitty77]

Utah is better than Boston and in a better position to win a title in the next few seasons.  Even if Hayward leaves Utah, it won't be to go to Boston.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  You tend to state your OPINION as fact rather consistently.  You tend to not offer FACTS to support your rather dogmatic statements much of the time.

Smitty77

Utah is 16-10.  That is better than Boston is it not?

The rest was obviously an opinion, but George Hill is comparable to Thomas.  Gobert and Favors are a far better front court than Boston and both are 25 or younger.  Rodney Hood is a rising star.  They have Exum, Mack, and Lyles as youngish guys with potential on the bench and cagey veterans like Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw.  Utah is better than Boston and has a better shot at a title in the next few seasons.  Now sure, long term as a result of the Brooklyn picks, Boston has a chance to overtake Utah, but not in the short term.

Utah has played the 22nd ranked strength of schedule and OUR C's have played the 6th ranked SOS!!

We have played three more road games than have the Jazz.

Smitty77

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Crowder is best as backup F behind Haywood, say, and whomever we could get to start at PF or C next to Horford to solve the rebounding problem. I'm
Not sure who would be available to fill that role, but perhaps a big should be the trade deadline target.
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[Moranis]

Utah is better than Boston and in a better position to win a title in the next few seasons.  Even if Hayward leaves Utah, it won't be to go to Boston.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  You tend to state your OPINION as fact rather consistently.  You tend to not offer FACTS to support your rather dogmatic statements much of the time.

Smitty77

Utah is 16-10.  That is better than Boston is it not?

The rest was obviously an opinion, but George Hill is comparable to Thomas.  Gobert and Favors are a far better front court than Boston and both are 25 or younger.  Rodney Hood is a rising star.  They have Exum, Mack, and Lyles as youngish guys with potential on the bench and cagey veterans like Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw.  Utah is better than Boston and has a better shot at a title in the next few seasons.  Now sure, long term as a result of the Brooklyn picks, Boston has a chance to overtake Utah, but not in the short term.

First, I think that Hayward is smart enough to KNOW that we have been without Horford for about 10 games, Crowder for about 9, IT for several, and Smart was out too, I believe.  I also think that he is SMART enough to NOT judge a season 26 games in!!!!!

Lyles has a 12.3 PER and Exum has an abysmal 8.5 PER.  JJ is just signed thru next year, so there is absolutely NO assurance that he will be with the Jazz long term.  Favors has regressed a LOT this year and is ONLY signed thru next year as well.  I do like Hood a LOT!!! 

You tend to diminish our strengths and enhance the strengths of other teams!!!  WHY do you do this Moranis?

Please explain yourself to this CELTICS' blog.

Smitty77

Utah has lost more VORP man games than Boston this year.  I'm sure you know that George Hill has missed 15 games, Favors has missed 14 games, Hood has missed 4 games, and Hayward himself has missed 7 games.  That doesn't even count Diaw who has missed 9 games.  Boston isn't the only team that has faced injuries this year.

Horford might very well be the best player on either team outside of Hayward, but the combination of Favors and Gobert is much much better than the Celtic's bigs.  George Hill is scoring 20 ppg on 45.6% three point shooting (on over 5 attempts a game), while continuing his quality defense.  I was being nice to Thomas by calling them equal this year.  They aren't.  Hill has been better, though it is just 11 games played by him, so it is a small sample size.

Did you ever think that you are just overrating Boston's players and not the other way around?  Boston isn't a contender and even signing Hayward won't make Boston a contender.  Utah isn't really a contender either, but Utah has a stronger foundation than Boston over the next few seasons because Utah has Rudy Gobert, Derrick Favors, and Rodney Hood all 25 or younger and all of which who are + players at their position already (not some future unknown like Brown or the BKN picks).  Hill is 30 just like Horford.   

[Smitty77]

Utah is better than Boston and in a better position to win a title in the next few seasons.  Even if Hayward leaves Utah, it won't be to go to Boston.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  You tend to state your OPINION as fact rather consistently.  You tend to not offer FACTS to support your rather dogmatic statements much of the time.

Smitty77

Utah is 16-10.  That is better than Boston is it not?

The rest was obviously an opinion, but George Hill is comparable to Thomas.  Gobert and Favors are a far better front court than Boston and both are 25 or younger.  Rodney Hood is a rising star.  They have Exum, Mack, and Lyles as youngish guys with potential on the bench and cagey veterans like Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw.  Utah is better than Boston and has a better shot at a title in the next few seasons.  Now sure, long term as a result of the Brooklyn picks, Boston has a chance to overtake Utah, but not in the short term.

First, I think that Hayward is smart enough to KNOW that we have been without Horford for about 10 games, Crowder for about 9, IT for several, and Smart was out too, I believe.  I also think that he is SMART enough to NOT judge a season 26 games in!!!!!

Lyles has a 12.3 PER and Exum has an abysmal 8.5 PER.  JJ is just signed thru next year, so there is absolutely NO assurance that he will be with the Jazz long term.  Favors has regressed a LOT this year and is ONLY signed thru next year as well.  I do like Hood a LOT!!! 

You tend to diminish our strengths and enhance the strengths of other teams!!!  WHY do you do this Moranis?

Please explain yourself to this CELTICS' blog.

Smitty77

Utah has lost more VORP man games than Boston this year.  I'm sure you know that George Hill has missed 15 games, Favors has missed 14 games, Hood has missed 4 games, and Hayward himself has missed 7 games.  That doesn't even count Diaw who has missed 9 games.  Boston isn't the only team that has faced injuries this year.

Horford might very well be the best player on either team outside of Hayward, but the combination of Favors and Gobert is much much better than the Celtic's bigs.  George Hill is scoring 20 ppg on 45.6% three point shooting (on over 5 attempts a game), while continuing his quality defense.  I was being nice to Thomas by calling them equal this year.  They aren't.  Hill has been better, though it is just 11 games played by him, so it is a small sample size.

Did you ever think that you are just overrating Boston's players and not the other way around?  Boston isn't a contender and even signing Hayward won't make Boston a contender.  Utah isn't really a contender either, but Utah has a stronger foundation than Boston over the next few seasons because Utah has Rudy Gobert, Derrick Favors, and Rodney Hood all 25 or younger and all of which who are + players at their position already (not some future unknown like Brown or the BKN picks).  Hill is 30 just like Horford.

You mention Hill's numbers after ONLY playing in 11 games as IF he will average 20 or more PPG for the season.  His highest PPG to this point in his entire long career (He is 30 and will be 31 in May and this IS his 9th season) was 16.1 and LAST YEAR he averaged 12.1.  You lost a LOT of credibility with me here Moranis.

Smitty77

[Moranis]

Utah is better than Boston and in a better position to win a title in the next few seasons.  Even if Hayward leaves Utah, it won't be to go to Boston.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  You tend to state your OPINION as fact rather consistently.  You tend to not offer FACTS to support your rather dogmatic statements much of the time.

Smitty77

Utah is 16-10.  That is better than Boston is it not?

The rest was obviously an opinion, but George Hill is comparable to Thomas.  Gobert and Favors are a far better front court than Boston and both are 25 or younger.  Rodney Hood is a rising star.  They have Exum, Mack, and Lyles as youngish guys with potential on the bench and cagey veterans like Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw.  Utah is better than Boston and has a better shot at a title in the next few seasons.  Now sure, long term as a result of the Brooklyn picks, Boston has a chance to overtake Utah, but not in the short term.

First, I think that Hayward is smart enough to KNOW that we have been without Horford for about 10 games, Crowder for about 9, IT for several, and Smart was out too, I believe.  I also think that he is SMART enough to NOT judge a season 26 games in!!!!!

Lyles has a 12.3 PER and Exum has an abysmal 8.5 PER.  JJ is just signed thru next year, so there is absolutely NO assurance that he will be with the Jazz long term.  Favors has regressed a LOT this year and is ONLY signed thru next year as well.  I do like Hood a LOT!!! 

You tend to diminish our strengths and enhance the strengths of other teams!!!  WHY do you do this Moranis?

Please explain yourself to this CELTICS' blog.

Smitty77

Utah has lost more VORP man games than Boston this year.  I'm sure you know that George Hill has missed 15 games, Favors has missed 14 games, Hood has missed 4 games, and Hayward himself has missed 7 games.  That doesn't even count Diaw who has missed 9 games.  Boston isn't the only team that has faced injuries this year.

Horford might very well be the best player on either team outside of Hayward, but the combination of Favors and Gobert is much much better than the Celtic's bigs.  George Hill is scoring 20 ppg on 45.6% three point shooting (on over 5 attempts a game), while continuing his quality defense.  I was being nice to Thomas by calling them equal this year.  They aren't.  Hill has been better, though it is just 11 games played by him, so it is a small sample size.

Did you ever think that you are just overrating Boston's players and not the other way around?  Boston isn't a contender and even signing Hayward won't make Boston a contender.  Utah isn't really a contender either, but Utah has a stronger foundation than Boston over the next few seasons because Utah has Rudy Gobert, Derrick Favors, and Rodney Hood all 25 or younger and all of which who are + players at their position already (not some future unknown like Brown or the BKN picks).  Hill is 30 just like Horford.

You mention Hill's numbers after ONLY playing in 11 games as IF he will average 20 or more PPG for the season.  His highest PPG to this point in his entire long career (He is 30 and will be 31 in May and this IS his 9th season) was 16.1 and LAST YEAR he averaged 12.1.  You lost a LOT of credibility with me here Moranis.

Smitty77

Hill has a vastly increased role in Utah's offense and they have given him more control.  Now some of his increased production is a higher shooting percentage to start the year (no argument there), but he has always been a quality shooter so he isn't going to become Marcus Smart all of a sudden.  Hill's greatest strength though is his defense.  He is a very good defender and the difference on that end of the court between Thomas and Hill is far greater than the advantage Thomas has offensively (though Hill has always been a more efficient offensive player than Thomas some of that may be a result of Thomas' volume).   Hill is older than Thomas, but I would expect them both to age around the same time because of Thomas' size. 

Go to realgm or some other NBA basketball forum and ask them if you were a free agent which group would you rather play with Horford, Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Johnson, Olynyk, and Smart or Hill, Favors, Gobert, Hood, Johnson, Diaw, and Exum (Burks hasn't even played yet either).  I think you might be enlightened.

[Eddie20]

Utah is better than Boston and in a better position to win a title in the next few seasons.  Even if Hayward leaves Utah, it won't be to go to Boston.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  You tend to state your OPINION as fact rather consistently.  You tend to not offer FACTS to support your rather dogmatic statements much of the time.

Smitty77

Utah is 16-10.  That is better than Boston is it not?

The rest was obviously an opinion, but George Hill is comparable to Thomas.  Gobert and Favors are a far better front court than Boston and both are 25 or younger.  Rodney Hood is a rising star.  They have Exum, Mack, and Lyles as youngish guys with potential on the bench and cagey veterans like Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw.  Utah is better than Boston and has a better shot at a title in the next few seasons.  Now sure, long term as a result of the Brooklyn picks, Boston has a chance to overtake Utah, but not in the short term.

First, I think that Hayward is smart enough to KNOW that we have been without Horford for about 10 games, Crowder for about 9, IT for several, and Smart was out too, I believe.  I also think that he is SMART enough to NOT judge a season 26 games in!!!!!

Lyles has a 12.3 PER and Exum has an abysmal 8.5 PER.  JJ is just signed thru next year, so there is absolutely NO assurance that he will be with the Jazz long term.  Favors has regressed a LOT this year and is ONLY signed thru next year as well.  I do like Hood a LOT!!! 

You tend to diminish our strengths and enhance the strengths of other teams!!!  WHY do you do this Moranis?

Please explain yourself to this CELTICS' blog.

Smitty77

Utah has lost more VORP man games than Boston this year.  I'm sure you know that George Hill has missed 15 games, Favors has missed 14 games, Hood has missed 4 games, and Hayward himself has missed 7 games.  That doesn't even count Diaw who has missed 9 games.  Boston isn't the only team that has faced injuries this year.

Horford might very well be the best player on either team outside of Hayward, but the combination of Favors and Gobert is much much better than the Celtic's bigs.  George Hill is scoring 20 ppg on 45.6% three point shooting (on over 5 attempts a game), while continuing his quality defense.  I was being nice to Thomas by calling them equal this year.  They aren't.  Hill has been better, though it is just 11 games played by him, so it is a small sample size.

Did you ever think that you are just overrating Boston's players and not the other way around?  Boston isn't a contender and even signing Hayward won't make Boston a contender.  Utah isn't really a contender either, but Utah has a stronger foundation than Boston over the next few seasons because Utah has Rudy Gobert, Derrick Favors, and Rodney Hood all 25 or younger and all of which who are + players at their position already (not some future unknown like Brown or the BKN picks).  Hill is 30 just like Horford.

You mention Hill's numbers after ONLY playing in 11 games as IF he will average 20 or more PPG for the season.  His highest PPG to this point in his entire long career (He is 30 and will be 31 in May and this IS his 9th season) was 16.1 and LAST YEAR he averaged 12.1.  You lost a LOT of credibility with me here Moranis.

Smitty77

Hill has a vastly increased role in Utah's offense and they have given him more control.  Now some of his increased production is a higher shooting percentage to start the year (no argument there), but he has always been a quality shooter so he isn't going to become Marcus Smart all of a sudden.  Hill's greatest strength though is his defense.  He is a very good defender and the difference on that end of the court between Thomas and Hill is far greater than the advantage Thomas has offensively (though Hill has always been a more efficient offensive player than Thomas some of that may be a result of Thomas' volume).   Hill is older than Thomas, but I would expect them both to age around the same time because of Thomas' size. 

Go to realgm or some other NBA basketball forum and ask them if you were a free agent which group would you rather play with Horford, Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Johnson, Olynyk, and Smart or Hill, Favors, Gobert, Hood, Johnson, Diaw, and Exum (Burks hasn't even played yet either).  I think you might be enlightened.

How did Durant's meeting with the Jazz go?

Johnson is not a good basketball player nowadays. The Jazz will soon have to pay Gobert and Hood. Hill too is a free agent and at his age you can expect a decline in the next season or two. Favors is not the same player he was. He's been dragging his leg up and down the court all season. You can't mention Exum, but then exclude Brown from the C's list.

[Moranis]

Utah is better than Boston and in a better position to win a title in the next few seasons.  Even if Hayward leaves Utah, it won't be to go to Boston.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  You tend to state your OPINION as fact rather consistently.  You tend to not offer FACTS to support your rather dogmatic statements much of the time.

Smitty77

Utah is 16-10.  That is better than Boston is it not?

The rest was obviously an opinion, but George Hill is comparable to Thomas.  Gobert and Favors are a far better front court than Boston and both are 25 or younger.  Rodney Hood is a rising star.  They have Exum, Mack, and Lyles as youngish guys with potential on the bench and cagey veterans like Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw.  Utah is better than Boston and has a better shot at a title in the next few seasons.  Now sure, long term as a result of the Brooklyn picks, Boston has a chance to overtake Utah, but not in the short term.

First, I think that Hayward is smart enough to KNOW that we have been without Horford for about 10 games, Crowder for about 9, IT for several, and Smart was out too, I believe.  I also think that he is SMART enough to NOT judge a season 26 games in!!!!!

Lyles has a 12.3 PER and Exum has an abysmal 8.5 PER.  JJ is just signed thru next year, so there is absolutely NO assurance that he will be with the Jazz long term.  Favors has regressed a LOT this year and is ONLY signed thru next year as well.  I do like Hood a LOT!!! 

You tend to diminish our strengths and enhance the strengths of other teams!!!  WHY do you do this Moranis?

Please explain yourself to this CELTICS' blog.

Smitty77

Utah has lost more VORP man games than Boston this year.  I'm sure you know that George Hill has missed 15 games, Favors has missed 14 games, Hood has missed 4 games, and Hayward himself has missed 7 games.  That doesn't even count Diaw who has missed 9 games.  Boston isn't the only team that has faced injuries this year.

Horford might very well be the best player on either team outside of Hayward, but the combination of Favors and Gobert is much much better than the Celtic's bigs.  George Hill is scoring 20 ppg on 45.6% three point shooting (on over 5 attempts a game), while continuing his quality defense.  I was being nice to Thomas by calling them equal this year.  They aren't.  Hill has been better, though it is just 11 games played by him, so it is a small sample size.

Did you ever think that you are just overrating Boston's players and not the other way around?  Boston isn't a contender and even signing Hayward won't make Boston a contender.  Utah isn't really a contender either, but Utah has a stronger foundation than Boston over the next few seasons because Utah has Rudy Gobert, Derrick Favors, and Rodney Hood all 25 or younger and all of which who are + players at their position already (not some future unknown like Brown or the BKN picks).  Hill is 30 just like Horford.

You mention Hill's numbers after ONLY playing in 11 games as IF he will average 20 or more PPG for the season.  His highest PPG to this point in his entire long career (He is 30 and will be 31 in May and this IS his 9th season) was 16.1 and LAST YEAR he averaged 12.1.  You lost a LOT of credibility with me here Moranis.

Smitty77

Hill has a vastly increased role in Utah's offense and they have given him more control.  Now some of his increased production is a higher shooting percentage to start the year (no argument there), but he has always been a quality shooter so he isn't going to become Marcus Smart all of a sudden.  Hill's greatest strength though is his defense.  He is a very good defender and the difference on that end of the court between Thomas and Hill is far greater than the advantage Thomas has offensively (though Hill has always been a more efficient offensive player than Thomas some of that may be a result of Thomas' volume).   Hill is older than Thomas, but I would expect them both to age around the same time because of Thomas' size. 

Go to realgm or some other NBA basketball forum and ask them if you were a free agent which group would you rather play with Horford, Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Johnson, Olynyk, and Smart or Hill, Favors, Gobert, Hood, Johnson, Diaw, and Exum (Burks hasn't even played yet either).  I think you might be enlightened.

How did Durant's meeting with the Jazz go?

Johnson is not a good basketball player nowadays. The Jazz will soon have to pay Gobert and Hood. Hill too is a free agent and at his age you can expect a decline in the next season or two. Favors is not the same player he was. He's been dragging his leg up and down the court all season. You can't mention Exum, but then exclude Brown from the C's list.

I did the top 7 players, Exum was only there because I eliminated Hayward.

Did Durant sign in Boston?  You mean he wanted to win so he didn't come here.  Hmm.