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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2016, 12:37:45 PM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.
Every year I hear fans discuss the rising freshman like they are better than they are.  I would eat my eat if there are three or four high players with more upside than Bender. 
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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2016, 01:50:30 PM »

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What's funny is people want proven talent not projects when talking about a draft when most of these guys are sub 20 years old. So I guess you are taking buddy hield with the #1 pick regardless.

Why is Bender a project anyways and Ingram isn't? Because you haven't seen him?

Bender is not a project.  His talent may be in question because you havent seen him but he is no more a project than anyone else and his talent is as proven as anyone elses.

Thon Maker is a project. Certain players are projects.  Bender is a talent. You are drafting him because of his talent.

He is the 3rd rated prospect because of his talent.

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2016, 04:51:34 PM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.

Except he said the exact opposite.

https://youtu.be/aTp5JFpavRs

I listened to that entire segment n I didn't hear him say anything u claim was opposite to what I posted 😨

What are you talking about? At 2:50, Danny is asked if he would take a project if the project is BPA, and his response is "Best player available."
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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2016, 05:16:36 PM »

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bender at 3 is ok by me.
Of the top pick I'd expect only Simmons will have an immediate iMacs.
Both Ingram and bender will take a few years to physically mature.
So go for talent and be patient with development.

Since we're taking the long view in this scenario I'd try and package 16 and 23 to move up into late lotto and draft the French kid luwawu, a good wing prospect. Or grab maker at 16.

We can address the need for an immediate impact wing/swing player through FA or trade.

For bigs: let sully walk. Pick up Amire and JJ's options.
Give bender/maker and Micky sully' minutes.

But that's just today's idea.
I'll be advocating for Murray, Skal, and Valentine then some other combo, then "TRADE THEM ALL", and repeat, before the draft actually takes place.

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2016, 05:28:21 PM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.

Except he said the exact opposite.

https://youtu.be/aTp5JFpavRs

This is what I mean is Ainge has kind of painted himself into an interesting situation here where people are thinking he's going to do one thing when he really could do something totally else.  I hope we draft bender.   I don't want anymore guards.  I do like jaylen b rown though.  Hield and Murray I am not big on.  Shooters yes.  With the 3rd pick no.

At 3rd I hope we take the bpa.  I don't think you spend that pick on shooters unless they are steph curry.  Neither hield or murray are.

Me too, and Danny seems committed to that strategy. I trust Danny to discover who the BPA actually is.

Shooters is exactly what this team needs and is where the NBA is right now. BPA should be someone that can hit a shoot because we need them!

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2016, 07:52:08 PM »

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What's funny is people want proven talent not projects when talking about a draft when most of these guys are sub 20 years old. So I guess you are taking buddy hield with the #1 pick regardless.

Why is Bender a project anyways and Ingram isn't? Because you haven't seen him?

Bender is not a project.  His talent may be in question because you havent seen him but he is no more a project than anyone else and his talent is as proven as anyone elses.

Thon Maker is a project. Certain players are projects.  Bender is a talent. You are drafting him because of his talent.

He is the 3rd rated prospect because of his talent.

I think he's the 3rd rated prospect because of his potential, not his talent. All the reports I've seen have highlighted several things that he needs to improve on. A 7 footer that can shoot 3s, run the floor, block shots, guard 5 positions on switches... I've seen all these things written about Bender; but those are making reference to his potential, not his talent.

For some reason the notion of al 7 footer with ability to shoot 3s and defend the post sounds familiar to me

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« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2016, 08:00:18 PM »

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What's funny is people want proven talent not projects when talking about a draft when most of these guys are sub 20 years old. So I guess you are taking buddy hield with the #1 pick regardless.

Why is Bender a project anyways and Ingram isn't? Because you haven't seen him?

Bender is not a project.  His talent may be in question because you havent seen him but he is no more a project than anyone else and his talent is as proven as anyone elses.

Thon Maker is a project. Certain players are projects.  Bender is a talent. You are drafting him because of his talent.

He is the 3rd rated prospect because of his talent.

I think he's the 3rd rated prospect because of his potential, not his talent. All the reports I've seen have highlighted several things that he needs to improve on. A 7 footer that can shoot 3s, run the floor, block shots, guard 5 positions on switches... I've seen all these things written about Bender; but those are making reference to his potential, not his talent.

For some reason the notion of al 7 footer with ability to shoot 3s and defend the post sounds familiar to me
Well, we're still talking about Smart's potential...

Pretty much all college players aren't very good by NBA standards. They are all being drafted on potential until they show it can work in the NBA.

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2016, 08:01:26 PM »

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He is the 3rd rated prospect because of his talent.


Are you his agent?

Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2016, 08:21:10 PM »

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What's funny is people want proven talent not projects when talking about a draft when most of these guys are sub 20 years old. So I guess you are taking buddy hield with the #1 pick regardless.

Why is Bender a project anyways and Ingram isn't? Because you haven't seen him?

Bender is not a project.  His talent may be in question because you havent seen him but he is no more a project than anyone else and his talent is as proven as anyone elses.

Thon Maker is a project. Certain players are projects.  Bender is a talent. You are drafting him because of his talent.

He is the 3rd rated prospect because of his talent.

Bender is a project because of his age.  People compare him to Porzingis.  Well, Bender right now is comparable to Porzingis a year before he is drafted and 'Staps' this season is where Bender would be expected to be in 2017-2018 if they are similar.
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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2016, 08:23:36 PM »

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Danny is not drafting Bender. Let's put that to rest. Like one poster said, why gamble on a big when there's 3 or 4 coming out next year that have more upside ? Danny wants proven talent now, not projects.

Except he said the exact opposite.

https://youtu.be/aTp5JFpavRs

This is what I mean is Ainge has kind of painted himself into an interesting situation here where people are thinking he's going to do one thing when he really could do something totally else.  I hope we draft bender.   I don't want anymore guards.  I do like jaylen b rown though.  Hield and Murray I am not big on.  Shooters yes.  With the 3rd pick no.

At 3rd I hope we take the bpa.  I don't think you spend that pick on shooters unless they are steph curry.  Neither hield or murray are.

Me too, and Danny seems committed to that strategy. I trust Danny to discover who the BPA actually is.

Shooters is exactly what this team needs and is where the NBA is right now. BPA should be someone that can hit a shoot because we need them!

Bradley and Thomas are decent shooters.  What the Celtics really need is a non-guard shooter in the starting lineup.  That's means either acquiring a forward who can shoot or getting the kind of center who makes it easy to start Olynyk or Jerebko.
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Re: A Sherrod is actually making sense to me
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2016, 08:36:33 PM »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1FcEAJ-6Ok

Wow.  Kid never hits the rim.  Except one time where it went straight up and then swished on the way down.  We could certainly use Murray.

Ainge will find a way to trade Bradley or Smart to free up space if we have to take a guard.

Awesome, another undersized combo guard!!!!!!

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