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Offline meangreenmachine

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All apologies if this thread has already been created, but let's say we end up with the top pick in the draft and use it on Simmons or Ingram. We will still have SEVEN picks left in 2016 (16, 23, 31, 35, 45, 51, 58), so I would imagine we are going to deal at least one or more of these picks in exchange for another pick(s) in 2016 and/or 2017 and/or 2018 and/or a veteran(s).

Let's say Danny wants to add another lottery pick in 2016 by trading up with as many of our remaining picks as possible. How high do you think could Danny go by moving these picks in two or three trades with multiple teams (I would imagine no team out there is interested in trading one pick for all seven picks, but I may be wrong)? And how high do you think he could go if he also was open to adding to any of these trades any (or all) of our players we drafted last year?

From my vantage point, we should probably stop fantasizing about Durant and start wondering what in the heck Danny is going to do with EIGHT draft picks. It's a good problem to have, I suppose, but I just cannot fathom four rookies making this team, so we really need to unload these picks somehow. As far as I can tell, the best bet is packaging them for as high of a lottery pick as possible this year or packaging them in exchange for future first-rounders in 2017 and/or 2018. Unless, of course, there are some quality veterans available...
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All apologies if this thread has already been created, but let's say we end up with the top pick in the draft and use it on Simmons or Ingram. We will still have SEVEN picks left in 2016 (16, 23, 31, 35, 45, 51, 58), so I would imagine we are going to deal at least one or more of these picks in exchange for another pick(s) in 2016 and/or 2017 and/or a veteran(s).

Let's say Danny wants to add another lottery pick in 2016 by trading up with as many of our remaining picks as possible. How high do you think could Danny go by moving these picks in two or three trades with multiple teams (I would imagine no team out there is interested in trading one pick for all seven picks, but I may be wrong)? And how high do you think he could go if he also was open to adding to any of these trades any (or all) of our players we drafted last year?

Out of all of the remaining picks, really only 16, 23, 31 and 35 have value. It really depends how other teams have evaluated the talent. Hypothetically, say the team we want to trade the picks to sees the draft like so:

1,2 - Tier S
3 - Tier 1
4-8 Tier 2
9-15 Tier 3
16-25 Tier 4.

In this case, going from Tier 4 to Tier 3 might be possible, and it might even be possible to get the 9th pick, depending on how the team we trade with views the talent in Tier 4 versus Tier 3.

However, if the other team views the talent tiers like this:

1,2 Tier S
3 Tier 1
4-10 Tier 2
11-13 Tier 3
14-20 Tier 4

Moving up higher than 11 becomes much much less likely because of the anticipated talent gap between players available at the end of the lottery and in the middle first round.

I guess the answer is, "It depends!"
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TP for the thread meangreenmachine and thoughts positivitize.

To be honest I'm not too worried about having a bunch of picks because we can always draft-and-stash some guys. But I love your idea of trying to grab two lottery picks. It seems like a great way to consolidate the picks on a couple of guys with high potential. I'd love to end up with Brandon Ingram and Deyonta Davis!

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I think, if we fall out of the top 3, we would be very wise to trade the rest of our picks to get another mid/late lottery pick, and use the 4/5/6th pick and this new lottery pick as the center pieces for a big trade.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Also, is this true? Wasn't able to catch it...

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Wyc Grousbeck on CSNNE sure sounded like they will trade their BKN pick, regardless of where it lands.
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Apparently he was on a podcast just now.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Also, is this true? Wasn't able to catch it...

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Wyc Grousbeck on CSNNE sure sounded like they will trade their BKN pick, regardless of where it lands.
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Apparently he was on a podcast just now.

My guess is that the team would like to trade the pick, but that's obvious not definite.  If Danny doesn't get good value, he's not trading the pick, no matter where it falls.


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Obviously the Cs wait to see how the Ping Pong balls fall, then the shopping starts.

Ideally consolidating some of the lower picks into a higher 1st rounder would be great, but there are so many variables that I'm starting to get a nervous twitch just thinking about it!

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We need to release some of our rookies at some point. Either package some picks and our spare tires for underrated role guys or to move up in the draft.

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If a guy like Poetl falls, I'd be interested in moving up to get him.

At the same time, some of the draft-and-stash options that could be there later are really intriguing, too.


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I wouldn't mind at all in getting a potential lottery pick next year instead of this year with this type of trade.  Some experts think next year's draft will be better.  Then we would have 2 potential lottery picks for next year.

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If we have a 3 or 4 pick I want to keep unless it means Butler or Durant.  If it's a 1 or 2 keep it Danny.  I like Durant but he's no KG.  No D and will not impact the team the way KG did.

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We could probably get up to 10 with the 16, 23, 31, and 35 pick.  I'd be nice to grab one of the top two prospects with our pick and hopefully someone like Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray or Dragan Bender falls to the other pick.

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We could probably get up to 10 with the 16, 23, 31, and 35 pick.  I'd be nice to grab one of the top two prospects with our pick and hopefully someone like Jaylen Brown or Jamal Murray or Dragan Bender falls to the other pick.

You mean that Brown, or Murray, or Bender would slip to #10? Why would another team trade away the opportunity to take one of those guys?

We've heard Ainge offered a bunch of picks to try to take Winslow. I think if Ainge wanted to move up in this draft to have two top-ten picks, he'll likely need to offer a future 1st as well.
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If a guy like Poetl falls, I'd be interested in moving up to get him.

At the same time, some of the draft-and-stash options that could be there later are really intriguing, too.

I'm on board. 7-2 athletic big men that rebound and defend aren't easy to find.

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If a guy like Poetl falls, I'd be interested in moving up to get him.

At the same time, some of the draft-and-stash options that could be there later are really intriguing, too.

I think ending up with a top two pick and then trading up to select Poeltl with our second first is my dream scenario for draft day.
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