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Offline walker834

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This is still our backcourt of the present and future imo.  There is some leeway on Bradley.  I think Isaiah and Smart once he gets going are both top 30 players.  Bradley is in that top 75 and is a very good defender and good shooter.  We could maybe use a better shooter there.  Rozier is also supremely talented.  Rj and Young are good young shooters who can do different things.  Players are going to grow and roles are going to change but I'm not sure we have to do anything here.  When Ainge looks at a guy like Buddy Hield and other guards in this draft he is going to have an interesting decision to make.

Smart is going to develop as a distributer as well.  Turner is good already. I don't want Simmons in ways for this reason.

Young and Turner and Smart can slide around a bit to SF.   I'm guessing Ainge cleans this up somewhat but I'm pretty happy with our guards.

We are still loaded with guards.  That's the problem with being a good drafter.  Ainge drafted these guys because he liked them. Only so much playing time though to go around.

some people don't see it like that though.  I still like guys like James young too.  These guys have to develop and get playing time.  It's easy to knock a guy when he doesn't even play and is 19 years old still.

People want Ingram but what's wrong with James young?  He cant even crack the rotation yet and Ingram might but Young is talented himself. Ingram is the more talented of the two and probably would but there isn't a huge difference in their skillsets.

We want to upgrade our team ultimately talent wise and infuse more talent but it's not that simple either.

We drafted these guys with the future in mind as well.  Some are more seasoned etc. Are going to be ready to break through come next year etc..
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This group of guards have their strengths but they also have their weaknesses. For that reason,  you always have to look to upgrade where you can. If you can trade picks and Bradley and get a Jimmy Butler, you do it. If you can draft a player the caliber of Hield, Murray or Ingram and replace James Young, you do it. If you can sign a player that is better and cheaper than Turner will cost, you do it. You cant sit pat with this group. They are good, not great.

Also, I cant see how anyone can still have hope for James Young. He has shown nothing at the NBA level and regressed at the DLeague level this year.

I also still maintain that RJ Hunter is not a good shooter. He has struggled shooting the ball wherever he has played over the last two years.

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Agree with Nick about James Young.   Folks have been playing the, 'he's only 19 give him time' card for two years now.  In fact, he'll be 21 in a couple months.  Time flies right? 

Meanwhile, everyone on the roster (including that D league call up who happens to play the same position) has lapped him in the rotation.  He's been so bad, I don't even think we can trade him unless it's pure salary filler.  Wouldn't be surprised if he never plays in another nba game, honestly.

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Bro did you just compare Ingram with James freaking Young?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

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Yes I did compare them.  I compared his skillset with james young in theory. I said Ingram would crack the rotation and is a more talented version. What is inaccurate about that?  We have been developing young though and he could crack it too though.

My point being is though we want to infuse this team with more talent somehow.

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That said, agree with the OP to an extent.   

Thomas, AB, Smart & Turner have all fit together nicely.  I'd be shocked if we broke them up.  We have enough assets that Ainge could still get what he wants & keep that group intact.  It's not like we can add 8 rookies to this roster this offseason...   

Besides, those are the guys max type players will want to play with.   

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Agree with Nick about James Young.   Folks have been playing the, 'he's only 19 give him time' card for two years now.  In fact, he'll be 21 in a couple months.  Time flies right? 

Meanwhile, everyone on the roster (including that D league call up who happens to play the same position) has lapped him in the rotation.  He's been so bad, I don't even think we can trade him unless it's pure salary filler.  Wouldn't be surprised if he never plays in another nba game, honestly.

In all fairness, a lot of posters here were playing the age card with AB for a couple of years too. So there is at least a bit of basis to it. At that time AB had more playing time to prove himself but it still took him a while.

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There is a nice rotation when it's IT, AB, Smart, and Turner. Rozier and Hunter need more time as does the youngest guard/SF James Young. It's definitely a strength if they can improve their outside shooting all together.

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Agree with Nick about James Young.   Folks have been playing the, 'he's only 19 give him time' card for two years now.  In fact, he'll be 21 in a couple months.  Time flies right? 

Meanwhile, everyone on the roster (including that D league call up who happens to play the same position) has lapped him in the rotation.  He's been so bad, I don't even think we can trade him unless it's pure salary filler.  Wouldn't be surprised if he never plays in another nba game, honestly.

In all fairness, a lot of posters here were playing the age card with AB for a couple of years too. So there is at least a bit of basis to it. At that time AB had more playing time to prove himself but it still took him a while.

Right i was one of those people. I'm not as high on young as bradley but I think Young has some talent.  We drafted him for a reason.  He could bust and we end up going another direction and more a sure thing but we've held onto him and have been developing him.    He's not Jr giddens here. He's 21 my bad and still very  young and has some talent.  He could be Fab Melo. I think Young in the stints I saw of him this year looked pretty good though.  He doesn't play.  just look at Jerebko when given a shot.  I think Ainge knows talent.

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The difference between Bradley and Young is Avery was already a huge contributor on a contending team and managed to steal a starting position from a future HOF during his second year. The other guy can't even crack the rotation on year 2. I'll be willing to give him more time to improve his game, but he's on his way to meet Giddens, Melo and JJJ if he doesn't develop.

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Ainge drafts players with the future in mind.  Young defensively does not appear to be close.  He's  21 though. His offensive game still needs work too.  Not sure how old jerebko is but he is much more developed.  Jerebko plays because he is that.  Young could be a similar type player though some day.