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Re: Trade Idea
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2016, 11:20:37 AM »

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I want no part of hibbert. I actually think he makes your team worse.

Re: Trade Idea
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2016, 01:32:54 PM »

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I want no part of hibbert. I actually think he makes your team worse.


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Re: Trade Idea
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2016, 01:52:00 PM »

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What about Gasol to Boston? They say he's available in trades

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hfgjxnr

Lee to Portland for financial reasons
Gasol, Alexander & Tony Snell to Boston (Alexander unguaranteed?)
Jerebko and Zeller + Boston and Dallas 2016 picks from Boston + a 2nd rounder from Portland

Gasol would be the ideal Center for Stevens and this team, he's a great guy and pro, and he's in a bargain contract.

Chicago saves money gets 2 first round picks and two cheap players who get free next summer

Portland saves money.


Re: Trade Idea: David Lee for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2016, 04:46:45 PM »

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Trading for Hibbert doesn't mean you have to use him as a starter.  Flipping Lee and a second for Hibbert is fine if you use him as a situational reserve who is mainly a plan b when smallball doesn't work.
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Re: Trade Idea: David Lee for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2016, 07:11:08 PM »

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Trading for Hibbert doesn't mean you have to use him as a starter.  Flipping Lee and a second for Hibbert is fine if you use him as a situational reserve who is mainly a plan b when smallball doesn't work.

Yeah, if you can get him for Lee and a second then you'd have to consider that.  Lee is basically dead weight...and when you have as many picks as we do a second rounder is worth almost nothing.

He's worth the gamble at that price, and could actually probably be very effective as a backup big.

What about Gasol to Boston? They say he's available in trades

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hfgjxnr

Lee to Portland for financial reasons
Gasol, Alexander & Tony Snell to Boston (Alexander unguaranteed?)
Jerebko and Zeller + Boston and Dallas 2016 picks from Boston + a 2nd rounder from Portland

Gasol would be the ideal Center for Stevens and this team, he's a great guy and pro, and he's in a bargain contract.

Chicago saves money gets 2 first round picks and two cheap players who get free next summer

Portland saves money.

It's an interesting concept, and Gasol is still a very good player, but to be honest I wouldn't do it. 

We are a young up and coming team, and I just don't think Gasol makes much sense for us.  I don't think he's good enough to make us a contender this year.  I think he would transform us into a top 4 team in the East, but even with Gasol I don't see us having a legit chance at competing with likes of Cleveland, Golden State or San Antonio in a 7 game series. 

I don't think he's young enough to remain effective for much longer either, and I wouldn't want to acquire Gasol, have him build chemistry and grow with our young guys, then have him retire two years from now and leave us with a big hole to fill. 

Certainly an interesting idea, but I would rather packing the Boston and Dallas picks and try to move up into the late lottery (maybe 12-14).

Re: Trade Idea: David Lee for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2016, 07:19:48 PM »

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Lee for Hibbert isn't bad on its face but our defense is great already, we NEED offensive players.
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Re: Trade Idea: David Lee for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2016, 08:36:20 PM »

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Lee for Hibbert isn't bad on its face but our defense is great already, we NEED offensive players.

That's true, but it's not like we are giving up any good offensive players in the deal, and thus it's not really making us any worse offensively than we are now. 

It might, however, improve us defensively.

I could see Hibbert / Olynyk and Hibbert / Johnson being very effective combinations.  I think that even Hibbert / Crowder and Hibbert / Jerebko could be effective in certain circumstances. 

We have a few guys on this team who can defend quicker bigs on defense and stretch the floor on offense, so I feel like we can probably integrate a guy like Hibbert better than a lot of other teams could. 

The only guys who I don't see working well with Hibbert would be Sully and Zeller, and I am not convinced that either of those guys will be with the Celtics next season...so I'm not too fazed about that.

Re: Trade Idea: David Lee for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2016, 08:38:29 PM »

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Lee for Hibbert isn't bad on its face but our defense is great already, we NEED offensive players.

That's true, but it's not like we are giving up any good offensive players in the deal, and thus it's not really making us any worse offensively than we are now. 

It might, however, improve us defensively.

I could see Hibbert / Olynyk and Hibbert / Johnson being very effective combinations.  I think that even Hibbert / Crowder and Hibbert / Jerebko could be effective in certain circumstances. 

We have a few guys on this team who can defend quicker bigs on defense and stretch the floor on offense, so I feel like we can probably integrate a guy like Hibbert better than a lot of other teams could. 

Just don't play Hibert + Sully together though.  My lord, that could be disastrous.

Yea, that was my point. It's not a bad trade at all, but I would like us to trade for an offensive player if we do anything.
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Re: Trade Idea: David Lee for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2016, 04:25:41 AM »

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If anyone said this, I apologize in advance.

How about David Lee for a bag of donuts and let Jordan Mickey taste his minutes?

Re: Trade Idea: David Lee for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2016, 12:07:17 PM »

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Lee for Hibbert isn't bad on its face but our defense is great already, we NEED offensive players.

That's true, but it's not like we are giving up any good offensive players in the deal, and thus it's not really making us any worse offensively than we are now. 

It might, however, improve us defensively.

I could see Hibbert / Olynyk and Hibbert / Johnson being very effective combinations.  I think that even Hibbert / Crowder and Hibbert / Jerebko could be effective in certain circumstances. 

We have a few guys on this team who can defend quicker bigs on defense and stretch the floor on offense, so I feel like we can probably integrate a guy like Hibbert better than a lot of other teams could. 

The only guys who I don't see working well with Hibbert would be Sully and Zeller, and I am not convinced that either of those guys will be with the Celtics next season...so I'm not too fazed about that.
The Lakers have a defensive rating of 111.3 with Hibbert on the floor.  With him off the floor they have a rating of 104.  It is no fluke that he can't even help a woefully bad Lakers team on the defensive end.  The game has changed, there is no need to try out Hibbert.  It is very easy to predict the outcome of acquiring him.  He will guaranteed not help the Celtics defensively and will guaranteed stone crush the Celtics offense.  In today's NBA if you park Hibbert in the paint, or anywhere near it, you will effectively be aiding the opponent in defending yourself.