Jae Crowder a Top 5 SF According to Bleacher Report

[Celtics18]

Giannis Antetokounmpo has crazy upside.  That kid is gonna be really, really good.

I'm sure there's a really good chance Giannis will be a star... the potential is obvious.  But if I was going to pick one guy with perceived "crazy upside" potential that will ultimately fall short, I think I'd go with Giannis.  If I were the Bucks, I'd consider moving him while the consensus remains that he's going to be a superstar.

You're out of your mind.

[max215]

Giannis Antetokounmpo has crazy upside.  That kid is gonna be really, really good.

I'm sure there's a really good chance Giannis will be a star... the potential is obvious.  But if I was going to pick one guy with perceived "crazy upside" potential that will ultimately fall short, I think I'd go with Giannis.  If I were the Bucks, I'd consider moving him while the consensus remains that he's going to be a superstar.

I think it's sort of too late. People seem to have backed off christening him as the next Durant. I really like Giannis a lot, and I think he'll grow to be a very good player, maybe even a 'star,' but it seems unlikely that he'll ever be an uberstar, MVP type.

[Celtics18]

Giannis Antetokounmpo has crazy upside.  That kid is gonna be really, really good.

There's no way he's a better player than Jae Crowder right now, though.

Not sure about Gordon Hayward, but from what I do know, he doesn't seem to have made the kind of superstar jump that I think some were expecting.  I don't think he's a given ahead of Jae.

I do like Nic Batum, who probably has a similar impact on this year's Hornets as Crowder has had on our Celtics.

Some of the guys folks have mentioned like Butler and George who are clearly better are listed at other positions.

In short,  I don't think the ranking is all that crazy.

Batum is listed at SG this season. Antetokounmpo is averaging 15, 7, and 3 on close to 50% from the floor with a steal and a block. He's been up and down all season but has arguably been at least as good as Crowder.

I'll give you "arguably." 

I'm a huge Giannis fan.

[crimson_stallion]

I think Hayward and GA are better than him

As well as Wiggins and Antetokounmpo. Bogus article is bogus.

Wiggins is incredibly one dimensional - but from what I've seen his defense this year has seemed pretty bad.

Stats seem to show that too.  If you put any weight in RPM stats (which many do not - personal choice) his defense has hurt the Wolves significantly more than his offense has helped them.

Quite a surprise given he was so famous for his D in college - I always thought that was the one thing that should translate. 

[crimson_stallion]

Top five is a stretch but I think he's pretty clearly top 10.

Outside of the super-elite group of Lebron, Durant, Kawhi, and Melo, only Hayward is obviously better.

But is Hayward's defense still poor, or has he since improved on that end of the court?

Sorry for the vagueness, I never liked his game much back in prior years, so I've not really followed his progress much lately aside from just box score numbers.