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Re: Gasol on the Market?
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2015, 06:49:58 PM »

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Pau is averaging 16 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2.2 blocks in 31 minutes a game.  He instantly would be Boston's best player and plays at a clear position of need.  Bradley and Young are pretty repetitive and Kelly is pretty bleh in the scheme of things.  The Minnesota 1st isn't a great asset.  If Chicago actually does that trade it seems like a pretty good move for Boston.

Avery Bradley is also averaging 16 ppg, but with the added bonus of actually plating defense on top of it
One of the players has a DRTG of 102, the other is 96.  Why don't you tell me which one you think is the low one (i.e. better)?  Gasol's defense has always been significantly underrated.  He is blocking shots, getting rebounds, and scoring at an efficient rate.  He is also a center.  Last time I checked, Boston needed a center because you know Boston doesn't have a credible center on the roster.  Boston has like 5 credible SG's.  Adding Gasol and Snell for Bradley, Olynyk (a backup PF), a pick, and the worthlessness that is Young would make Boston significantly better this year.

I mean that is kind of the point.  Time to go or get off the pot.  Boston needs to pick a direction and go for it.  Either make the team the better and go for it or sell off and tank.  This middling crap just isn't a long term solution.

Why is it either or? Gasol isn't a young nor he is an Superstar. Selling cost controlled players for a player with limited years isn't very smart.
cost controlled players is the standard these days.  Why not just get better players?  Lots of players are cost controlled, it doesn't mean you don't upgrade when you get a chance.

A 35-year-old who will either walk or demand a huge contract to stay isn't much of an upgrade.

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Re: Gasol on the Market?
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2015, 09:11:47 PM »

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Pau is averaging 16 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2.2 blocks in 31 minutes a game.  He instantly would be Boston's best player and plays at a clear position of need.  Bradley and Young are pretty repetitive and Kelly is pretty bleh in the scheme of things.  The Minnesota 1st isn't a great asset.  If Chicago actually does that trade it seems like a pretty good move for Boston.

Avery Bradley is also averaging 16 ppg, but with the added bonus of actually plating defense on top of it
One of the players has a DRTG of 102, the other is 96.  Why don't you tell me which one you think is the low one (i.e. better)?  Gasol's defense has always been significantly underrated.  He is blocking shots, getting rebounds, and scoring at an efficient rate.  He is also a center.  Last time I checked, Boston needed a center because you know Boston doesn't have a credible center on the roster.  Boston has like 5 credible SG's.  Adding Gasol and Snell for Bradley, Olynyk (a backup PF), a pick, and the worthlessness that is Young would make Boston significantly better this year.

I mean that is kind of the point.  Time to go or get off the pot.  Boston needs to pick a direction and go for it.  Either make the team the better and go for it or sell off and tank.  This middling crap just isn't a long term solution.

Why is it either or? Gasol isn't a young nor he is an Superstar. Selling cost controlled players for a player with limited years isn't very smart.
cost controlled players is the standard these days.  Why not just get better players?  Lots of players are cost controlled, it doesn't mean you don't upgrade when you get a chance.

A 35-year-old who will either walk or demand a huge contract to stay isn't much of an upgrade.

Mike
have him opt in.  happens all the time in trades.  And Pau isn't commanding a huge contract at his age. 
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Re: Gasol on the Market?
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2015, 09:43:55 PM »

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Pau is averaging 16 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2.2 blocks in 31 minutes a game.  He instantly would be Boston's best player and plays at a clear position of need.  Bradley and Young are pretty repetitive and Kelly is pretty bleh in the scheme of things.  The Minnesota 1st isn't a great asset.  If Chicago actually does that trade it seems like a pretty good move for Boston.

Avery Bradley is also averaging 16 ppg, but with the added bonus of actually plating defense on top of it
One of the players has a DRTG of 102, the other is 96.  Why don't you tell me which one you think is the low one (i.e. better)?  Gasol's defense has always been significantly underrated.  He is blocking shots, getting rebounds, and scoring at an efficient rate.  He is also a center.  Last time I checked, Boston needed a center because you know Boston doesn't have a credible center on the roster.  Boston has like 5 credible SG's.  Adding Gasol and Snell for Bradley, Olynyk (a backup PF), a pick, and the worthlessness that is Young would make Boston significantly better this year.

I mean that is kind of the point.  Time to go or get off the pot.  Boston needs to pick a direction and go for it.  Either make the team the better and go for it or sell off and tank.  This middling crap just isn't a long term solution.

Why is it either or? Gasol isn't a young nor he is an Superstar. Selling cost controlled players for a player with limited years isn't very smart.
cost controlled players is the standard these days.  Why not just get better players?  Lots of players are cost controlled, it doesn't mean you don't upgrade when you get a chance.

A 35-year-old who will either walk or demand a huge contract to stay isn't much of an upgrade.

Mike
have him opt in.  happens all the time in trades.  And Pau isn't commanding a huge contract at his age.

1.  Why would Pau opt in?

2.  If Pau isn't good enough to command a big contract, why do you want him on the Celtics?

Mike

Re: Gasol on the Market?
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2015, 10:15:31 PM »

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I'd roll the dice on Pau if he was the second domino to fall after a move like acquiring Carmelo Anthony or some other star. At Pau's age, it'd give us a narrow window, but I could get behind he idea of going all in.

But Pau as the only domino (or even the first domino to fall, since it'd put us in a weak negotiating position with other teams), would be a bad idea.

Pau by himself doesn't make us a contender.

Re: Gasol on the Market?
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2015, 06:50:48 AM »

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Pau is averaging 16 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2.2 blocks in 31 minutes a game.  He instantly would be Boston's best player and plays at a clear position of need.  Bradley and Young are pretty repetitive and Kelly is pretty bleh in the scheme of things.  The Minnesota 1st isn't a great asset.  If Chicago actually does that trade it seems like a pretty good move for Boston.

Avery Bradley is also averaging 16 ppg, but with the added bonus of actually plating defense on top of it
One of the players has a DRTG of 102, the other is 96.  Why don't you tell me which one you think is the low one (i.e. better)?  Gasol's defense has always been significantly underrated.  He is blocking shots, getting rebounds, and scoring at an efficient rate.  He is also a center.  Last time I checked, Boston needed a center because you know Boston doesn't have a credible center on the roster.  Boston has like 5 credible SG's.  Adding Gasol and Snell for Bradley, Olynyk (a backup PF), a pick, and the worthlessness that is Young would make Boston significantly better this year.

I mean that is kind of the point.  Time to go or get off the pot.  Boston needs to pick a direction and go for it.  Either make the team the better and go for it or sell off and tank.  This middling crap just isn't a long term solution.

Why is it either or? Gasol isn't a young nor he is an Superstar. Selling cost controlled players for a player with limited years isn't very smart.
cost controlled players is the standard these days.  Why not just get better players?  Lots of players are cost controlled, it doesn't mean you don't upgrade when you get a chance.

A 35-year-old who will either walk or demand a huge contract to stay isn't much of an upgrade.

Mike
have him opt in.  happens all the time in trades.  And Pau isn't commanding a huge contract at his age.

1.  Why would Pau opt in?

2.  If Pau isn't good enough to command a big contract, why do you want him on the Celtics?

Mike
He would be Boston's best player, but he isn't getting a huge contract because he is old.  Something like what KG got when he re-signed in Boston is reasonable for Pau.
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Re: Gasol on the Market?
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2015, 07:08:08 AM »

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I'd roll the dice on Pau if he was the second domino to fall after a move like acquiring Carmelo Anthony or some other star.

*shudder*

They should want an established SF who is an upgrade over Tony Snell and Doug McDermott.  You proposed giving them three players who do not fit that description.

Man, remember when half this board wanted McDermott? If it was for Celticsblog, our core would be Douggie McD, Jabari Parker and Willie Cauley-Stein.
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