I'm also in the I wouldn't sell the farm for any camp. I think in dealing with each you can't be unloading too much because none are exactly stars. All are third option players at best right now. Basically more IT level players but with less defensive flaws. I think given the situation of each team the package shouldn't be too much either.
1. Barnes, he seems the best 2 way player potentially and GS may want to keep their cap in check.
Package= IT, Dallas pick, Young.
How crazy would it be for GS to have a weapon like IT to spell Curry or play with Curry in stretches for Klay. Best 3 guard rotation in the league no doubt.
2. Harris, he may not be a franchise player but he is already an excellent third option for a team. He seems to love being the guy to go to late. Does a lot of things well and still has potential to grow more.
Package=Sully, Turner, AJ, Dallas pick, Wolves pick*.
If Magic want more strength at PF because say Gordon is not progressing this may become more viable. They would likely have to believe they are a playoff team with Payton, Olidipo, Mario, AJ, Vucevic over Harris and Gordon starting. They were after Millsap in FA and seemed willing to let Harris go for the PF so this may not be too crazy.
3. McLemore, he is streaky but starting to show signs he may develop. As more of a developing piece he is also cheapest price of the options.
Package=AB
In this case Kings want more of a win now piece and want a glue guy like AB in the locker room. His defense first may be exactly what that starting lineup needs.
4. Beal. His contract demands wont match his play and he is often hurt. So I have him last and probably would not consider him. If there was a trade though I expect it to be built around the following
Package=AB, Sully and Dallas 1st.
Thinking Wall and Durant wouldn't mind more of a better defender around to let them score more. If building around Durant having a decent cost controlled SG helps instead of overpaying Beal. Sully helps their front court and a first may help to add more in building.
I think you ARE selling the farm in each of those deals.
That Dallas pick is a lottery pick this year. no way they make the playoffs (won't be close to it in the west) and they won't be the 7th worst team in the league. Not parting with a projected lottery pick for a player that's not prove yet.
- IT & Young should be plenty for Barnes. Got less for Jeff Green who's a much better player.
- Sully and Turner would be sufficient for Harris. Maybe, the Wolves pick but that's overpaying. he's a scorer but not a lot more than that. Don't see the need to include Amir or the Dallas pick too.
- AB is much better than Mclemore and I'm not an AB fan. longshot Mclemore develops into AB-lite at this point.
- Beal - this is the player I think has the most potential here to be a building block at SG. My personal bias. I'd go AB and Sully or exchange one of them for that Dallas pick (top 10 protected). Beal isn't at AB's level defensively and Sully is not an insignificant piece to add to Washington.
You might be right that it is overpaying for all of them but sure others are also going to say I'm overvaluing our players as well. A poster can never win lol
i actually thought Cs fans offers were fairly spot on. some tweaking here and there sure, but far too many people here overvalue our own assets. this offseason proved that our "warchest" of picks isn't all that attractive to other teams. and since all these guys are potential based, we would have to overpay to acquire any of them anyway, save for maybe Barnes, as i just can't see GS opening the checkbook to have he, Bogut, Iggy, Curry, and Klay all making 8 figures per year
I think the offers were a bit much and he acknowledge as much. I get the concept of overpaying to get what you want but I don't agree that it's a good philosophy --> why would any could GM overpay and expect to constantly come out on the short end of trades? Isaiah Thomas or Michael Jordan anyone?
as for the 'warchest', the only team we know that turned Danny down was Charlotte. I haven't seen any other official rejections of an offer from Danny. If you know of another confirmed rejection, I'd appreciate it if you could pass that along. Atlanta apparently accepted some sort of deal to cough up the #15 without us giving up #16 so evidently the 'warchest' has some value to some teams.
Charlotte turning down a reported offer of 4-6 picks for the C's to move up 6 spots speaks more to the foolishness of Charlotte's front office than it does to the C's assets. Do you really think Frank Kaminsky is worth more than the players that will be taken with the picks the C's offered? I haven't seen what the offer was to Atlanta to know if any of the other C's picks this year went to them but say it was for #15, #16, #28 and #33 plus the future picks --> I think Kelly Oubre, Rozier (or Portis if they took him instead), Hunter and Mickey would have been far more beneficial to Charlotte than Kaminsky will ever be.
Gotta read my post again I didn't agree that it was an over pay I said, "you might be right..." might and the follow up are not agreeing but saying people will see things as overpaying or over valuing our own guys and that never is everyone satisfied.
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