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Re: Estimate Young's trade value.
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2015, 01:04:54 AM »

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A 2nd would be way too little. He was decent in DL and is very young. He is developing his body so he has okay work ethic. I won't get crazy about his SL performances. He didnt get a lot of play to judge him so harshly as the ask for low picks. I would trade him for a top 20 pick no less.

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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2015, 01:14:20 AM »

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Young's value obviously and objectively is 42, pretty clear to see really.
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Re: Estimate Young's trade value.
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2015, 01:18:08 AM »

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Have the same reaction as when I saw Bradley struggling for a year+: there's no way he's this bad offensively. The game has to slow down for him.  Doesn't mean he'll be good, but right now there's no way he can be this bad especially when its so at odds with his D-league play. There's no way you trade him unless he's part of a  bigger deal that improves the team.
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Re: Estimate Young's trade value.
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2015, 01:45:57 AM »

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Not a good time to trade James Young because his value is rock bottom and he is still very young. Even 2 years from now he will only be 21 so there is time to hone his skills and adjust to the NBA game.

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« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2015, 01:46:37 AM »

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Have the same reaction as when I saw Bradley struggling for a year+: there's no way he's this bad offensively. The game has to slow down for him.  Doesn't mean he'll be good, but right now there's no way he can be this bad especially when its so at odds with his D-league play. There's no way you trade him unless you he's part of a  bigger deal that improves the team.

Difference is that Bradley was always a good defensive player and a pretty elite athlete, so he always had those things to fall back on.

I don't feel like Young has that 'backup plan' - if his offense doesn't come around, then he's useless.  It sounds slack I know, but ultimately that's pretty much the reality of it.

Re: Estimate Young's trade value.
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2015, 01:53:06 AM »

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A 2nd would be way too little. He was decent in DL and is very young. He is developing his body so he has okay work ethic. I won't get crazy about his SL performances. He didnt get a lot of play to judge him so harshly as the ask for low picks. I would trade him for a top 20 pick no less.

I disagree...

We just got Hunter at #28 and Micket at #35 and at this point they both look WAY better than Young does after a full season in the NBA environment.

I don't think it's hard to fathom right now that if you got a second round pick in return for Young, you'd have a pretty solid chance at drafting a play as good as him (or better).

Given what he's shown the last year, he's not worth a 1st round pick.  Not even close.

People talk about how he dominated the D-League but you know what - so did Fab Melo.  So did a lot of guys who didn't even get drafted in the NBA.  How many guys who dominated in the D League (after failing to make an impact in the NBA) have then later been called up and become anything better than a solid backup?

There have been some, but very few.  You're lucky if even 5% of those guys end up becoming starting caliber NBA players.

In fact I'm pretty sure Chris Johnson was a bonafide D-League all star before he got called up to Boston, and struggled to crack the rotation.

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« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2015, 02:02:13 AM »

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Have the same reaction as when I saw Bradley struggling for a year+: there's no way he's this bad offensively. The game has to slow down for him.  Doesn't mean he'll be good, but right now there's no way he can be this bad especially when its so at odds with his D-league play. There's no way you trade him unless you he's part of a  bigger deal that improves the team.

Difference is that Bradley was always a good defensive player and a pretty elite athlete, so he always had those things to fall back on.

I don't feel like Young has that 'backup plan' - if his offense doesn't come around, then he's useless.  It sounds slack I know, but ultimately that's pretty much the reality of it.
I don't disagree on AB's defense, but we had nothing to judge AB's offense on except while he was at Texas which was tough too judge.

OTOH Young lit up the D League yet looks awful in summer league. That doesn't compute for me. All in all both are pretty equivalent in my eyes.

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« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2015, 02:02:27 AM »

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A 2nd would be way too little. He was decent in DL and is very young. He is developing his body so he has okay work ethic. I won't get crazy about his SL performances. He didnt get a lot of play to judge him so harshly as the ask for low picks. I would trade him for a top 20 pick no less.

I disagree...

We just got Hunter at #28 and Micket at #35 and at this point they both look WAY better than Young does after a full season in the NBA environment.

I don't think it's hard to fathom right now that if you got a second round pick in return for Young, you'd have a pretty solid chance at drafting a play as good as him (or better).

Given what he's shown the last year, he's not worth a 1st round pick.  Not even close.

People talk about how he dominated the D-League but you know what - so did Fab Melo.  So did a lot of guys who didn't even get drafted in the NBA.  How many guys who dominated in the D League (after failing to make an impact in the NBA) have then later been called up and become anything better than a solid backup?

There have been some, but very few.  You're lucky if even 5% of those guys end up becoming starting caliber NBA players.
Darn right we disagree as Young is still younger and has had less real playing time to actually develop compared to those two. He could also always score college or DL unlike Melo. Young's youth and potential is why Young was drafted higher the year before than Hunter and Mikey this year. Also can't get great when your competition is weak. Young needs more NBA action to push it to another level going back and forth from NBA and DL can only get him so NBA ready (as C's also said).
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« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2015, 02:27:37 AM »

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This is not the time to trade Young. His stock could not be any lower right now besides being outside the league.

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« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2015, 03:04:16 AM »

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I wonna see young playing 10-15 min before judging him

He hasn't done anything to earn that yet.

He will never earn 15 mpg outside of China.

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« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2015, 03:12:54 AM »

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Can we even get a second rounder for him at this point.

Why are you so quick to give up on him? I still see a lot of potential in him. He played pretty bad in the first two games, but that doesn't mean hes a bust. I think he had so much hype with all of us raving about what hes done to improve his body so he went out their and got the butterflies and started thinking too much on his shot. He is still 19 years old and has a lot of potential, don't give up on him already.
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Re: Estimate Young's trade value.
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2015, 03:42:33 AM »

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very low after this summer league (low 2nd rounder - or expiring vet on a small contract)
as despite his improved physical abilities
he has shown to only slightly improve from last year with our rookies out competing him

it could be him just being nervous from heightened expectations or whatever
but he needs to pick up his game
if he wants more playing time

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« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2015, 03:47:50 AM »

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He's 19 years old. Chill.