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Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2015, 04:56:56 PM »

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My suspicion is that Johnson will stay at the 4 while Lee (and possibly others) play the nominal 5 on defense.
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Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2015, 05:29:51 PM »

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My thinking is that Amir can play both the PF and C slots in situations... During the playoffs against the Wizards he was matched up with Gortat so, I really don't see a big problem. But through it all, I expect David Lee to play more minutes at the C...

...Which got me to remember how we used to play Obie Ball and how we reached the ECF with a go-to lineup of:

Kenny Anderson
Paul Pierce
Eric Williams
Antoine Walker
Rodney Rogers

Wasn't Obie one of the few coaches ahead of his time with the small ball thingamajig, if you think about it? And, if we had a better SF or C during that series, could we have won it all? Funny also remembering how we all got mad with this Obie Ball because Antoine was jacking up 3's and posting up less. Further along, could we say that Draymond Green is a version of Antoine Walker?

And here is one of my favorite Celtic moments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Yp5YXRu8Y

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Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2015, 06:20:16 PM »

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My thinking is that Amir can play both the PF and C slots in situations... During the playoffs against the Wizards he was matched up with Gortat so, I really don't see a big problem. But through it all, I expect David Lee to play more minutes at the C...

...Which got me to remember how we used to play Obie Ball and how we reached the ECF with a go-to lineup of:

Kenny Anderson
Paul Pierce
Eric Williams
Antoine Walker
Rodney Rogers

Wasn't Obie one of the few coaches ahead of his time with the small ball thingamajig, if you think about it? And, if we had a better SF or C during that series, could we have won it all? Funny also remembering how we all got mad with this Obie Ball because Antoine was jacking up 3's and posting up less. Further along, could we say that Draymond Green is a version of Antoine Walker?

And here is one of my favorite Celtic moments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Yp5YXRu8Y

And Don Nelson has his number retired by the Celtics...

At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2015, 06:23:06 PM »

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My suspicion is that Johnson will stay at the 4 while Lee (and possibly others) play the nominal 5 on defense.

We'll have a 4 man rotation at the 5 with Lee, Sully, Zeller, and Olynyk.  Amir, Jerebko, and Crowder will split minutes at the 4.

Can't wait for a 12 man rotation where nobody plays more than 25 minutes a game.
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Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2015, 06:39:20 PM »

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My suspicion is that Johnson will stay at the 4 while Lee (and possibly others) play the nominal 5 on defense.

We'll have a 4 man rotation at the 5 with Lee, Sully, Zeller, and Olynyk.  Amir, Jerebko, and Crowder will split minutes at the 4.

Can't wait for a 12 man rotation where nobody plays more than 25 minutes a game.

It'll depend on nightly matchups.

Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2015, 06:40:35 PM »

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Great thing is the team is versatile right now. In some cases, the entire group can play the 5.

Olynyk, Sully, Zeller, Johnson, and Lee.

Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2015, 07:12:54 PM »

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Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2015, 07:23:57 PM »

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Wasn't Obie one of the few coaches ahead of his time with the small ball thingamajig, if you think about it? And, if we had a better SF or C during that series, could we have won it all? Funny also remembering how we all got mad with this Obie Ball because Antoine was jacking up 3's and posting up less. Further along, could we say that Draymond Green is a version of Antoine Walker?
I've thought the same thing myself. O'Brien's scheme was basically, blitz on defense and shoot a ton of 3's on offense. Maybe he can get himself another job in this new NBA.

As for the Amir Johnson thing, all of the numbers posted from his season in Toronto suggests that the team will do well with him at center.
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Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2015, 07:28:03 PM »

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Wasn't Obie one of the few coaches ahead of his time with the small ball thingamajig, if you think about it? And, if we had a better SF or C during that series, could we have won it all? Funny also remembering how we all got mad with this Obie Ball because Antoine was jacking up 3's and posting up less. Further along, could we say that Draymond Green is a version of Antoine Walker?
I've thought the same thing myself. O'Brien's scheme was basically, blitz on defense and shoot a ton of 3's on offense. Maybe he can get himself another job in this new NBA.

As for the Amir Johnson thing, all of the numbers posted from his season in Toronto suggests that the team will do well with him at center.

If you're gonna have volume 3pt shooters, it still behooves you to have them able to make a good percentage.

Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2015, 07:34:10 PM »

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I don't see a problem with him playing PF
But I guess lee and zeller would choose to play the 5 more

Lee would work well as a 5 in small ball lineups
Zeller showed last season that he can play productively at the 5

But being as athletic as Johnson is he immediately becomes are best defender at the 4 compared to sully and olynyk

Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2015, 07:54:54 PM »

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Wasn't Obie one of the few coaches ahead of his time with the small ball thingamajig, if you think about it? And, if we had a better SF or C during that series, could we have won it all? Funny also remembering how we all got mad with this Obie Ball because Antoine was jacking up 3's and posting up less. Further along, could we say that Draymond Green is a version of Antoine Walker?
I've thought the same thing myself. O'Brien's scheme was basically, blitz on defense and shoot a ton of 3's on offense. Maybe he can get himself another job in this new NBA.

As for the Amir Johnson thing, all of the numbers posted from his season in Toronto suggests that the team will do well with him at center.

One of the interesting things you can glean from looking at the trends in NBA three point shooting, if you are somewhat knowledgeable  about the last 30 years of NBA history, is how tritely a lot of the teams that were ahead of their time were treated by the 'prevailing wisdom'.  i.e. teams that shot a lot of threes were somehow gimmicky, not playing "real" basketball, and/or chucking in the place of talent.

Luckily, those opinions are losing traction and going the way of dinosaurs, and I don't think anyone except Sir Charles seriously believes "you can't win an NBA championship with a jump shooting team" anymore.
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Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2015, 07:56:43 PM »

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Wasn't Obie one of the few coaches ahead of his time with the small ball thingamajig, if you think about it? And, if we had a better SF or C during that series, could we have won it all? Funny also remembering how we all got mad with this Obie Ball because Antoine was jacking up 3's and posting up less. Further along, could we say that Draymond Green is a version of Antoine Walker?
I've thought the same thing myself. O'Brien's scheme was basically, blitz on defense and shoot a ton of 3's on offense. Maybe he can get himself another job in this new NBA.

As for the Amir Johnson thing, all of the numbers posted from his season in Toronto suggests that the team will do well with him at center.

One of the interesting things you can glean from looking at the trends in NBA three point shooting, if you are somewhat knowledgeable  about the last 30 years of NBA history, is how tritely a lot of the teams that were ahead of their time were treated by the 'prevailing wisdom'.  i.e. teams that shot a lot of threes were somehow gimmicky, not playing "real" basketball, and/or chucking in the place of talent.

Luckily, those opinions are losing traction and going the way of dinosaurs, and I don't think anyone except Sir Charles seriously believes "you can't win an NBA championship with a jump shooting team" anymore.

dude, I think your sony discman is stuck on repeat. 

Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2015, 07:59:40 PM »

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Start Klynyk at the five and Johnson at the four. 

Allow them to switch as needed. 
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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: If Amir Johnson can play Center why hasn't he?
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2015, 08:16:04 PM »

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Wasn't Obie one of the few coaches ahead of his time with the small ball thingamajig, if you think about it? And, if we had a better SF or C during that series, could we have won it all? Funny also remembering how we all got mad with this Obie Ball because Antoine was jacking up 3's and posting up less. Further along, could we say that Draymond Green is a version of Antoine Walker?
I've thought the same thing myself. O'Brien's scheme was basically, blitz on defense and shoot a ton of 3's on offense. Maybe he can get himself another job in this new NBA.

As for the Amir Johnson thing, all of the numbers posted from his season in Toronto suggests that the team will do well with him at center.

One of the interesting things you can glean from looking at the trends in NBA three point shooting, if you are somewhat knowledgeable  about the last 30 years of NBA history, is how tritely a lot of the teams that were ahead of their time were treated by the 'prevailing wisdom'.  i.e. teams that shot a lot of threes were somehow gimmicky, not playing "real" basketball, and/or chucking in the place of talent.

Luckily, those opinions are losing traction and going the way of dinosaurs, and I don't think anyone except Sir Charles seriously believes "you can't win an NBA championship with a jump shooting team" anymore.

dude, I think your sony discman is stuck on repeat.
See for yourself. Check out all the teams in the top 40 or so that predate 2010 or so.
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