Better Players to Waste Money On than Rondo + Green.

[TheReaLPuba]

No big name star will sign here unless we have an established core or All-Star AND a solid coach. Who is going to sign with us with 15 year old Brad Stevens as head coach...I mean really?

Right now our best player is Sully? I mean he's pretty solid and will have great statistical games here and there but is he a top 10 PF? Is he an All-Star caliber player? I don't think so.

If we can trade him and Olynyk for two first rounders should we? I mean how long are we suppose to stock pile draft picks for? Until we get the number 1 pick?

That's not happening because we can't even tank properly.

[Rosco917]

I don't know if we're going to draw interest from young super stars around the league, but when I look at the  Atlanta Hawks and see how there playing with no real major high maintenance star, just a balanced lineup that plays selfless basketball. Everyone is solid, and knows his job.

That said, we definitely need more talent than we have now, but as I always say, I just take one free agent to draw a second because we have the first.

Besides a center/rim protecting presents, we could use another shooter/scorer. A Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler type.   

[LarBrd33]

The post makes perfect sense.  Either you get door #1 with draft picks/expirings/TPEs...then spend same money on better players....thus having both things

or

door #2 =  overpay 2 good players and get a years supply of Rice-a-Roni and 5 more wins.

Indeed... and the problem with door #2 is that there was no guarantee either of those guys were even going to re-sign with us.  I don't believe Boston was the frontrunner to sign Rajon.  And if we WERE the frontrunner, we probably still are after Dallas fails to win a title.  Getting picks for them was just a smart move. 

[GreenFaith1819]

They're gone, LarBrd33.

How much longer are you going to trash them?

Saying that you don't want to pay a player x dollars isn't trashing them.

But TBH - the title of this thread just seems classless.

And this comes from the same poster whom I remember has called Rondo - "A Terrific Player".

For all their faults/whatever - they've both exhibited Celtic Pride.

Jeff Green's life was threatened with his heart condition...he's played out of position in OKC, came to BOS for a very popular player (Perk), endured the KG/PP trades, seemed to flourish under Rondo, then had Rondo traded, lol smh...

Rondo's played with a broken arm, etc, etc, etc..

Granted - I've accepted the direction that the team is going in, but I'm not going to trash two players whom at one time figured large in BOS's future.

Danny's changed direction. I accept that.

But as long as there are threads like this, there will be dissenters.

Yeah this is getting annoying. Rondo and Green are good players who had great games during their time with the Celtics. I like the young players on the Celtics, but let's repsect the two people who gave the Celtics some entertainment over the years.

Yall can stop defending those bums... They are gone.

Lol seriously though rondo/green were fine players. Don't get me wrong. Jeff is a top 150 player and rondo is a top 100 player. But lets have perspective here.  We didn't just lose Larry Bird and Kevin McHale. We lost slightly above average players who are in fact replaceable.  When you can replace Green/rondo with the bench dwellers on your own team and barely skip a beat, it's a telling sign you didn't need to pay max money for them.

Fact is, there are several Rondo/Green level players in free agency this year.  I wouldn't suggest giving DeAndre Jordan max money any more than I'd recommend giving jeff green max money, but if you feel like blowing oodles of cash by overpaying a starter, the opportunity will be there this summer.  By trading green and rondo for draft picks we essentially lose nothing.  If we choose to overpay players, we can. We will have received all these draft picks basically for free.

Well when the other option is to defend the bums that are here I'd rather defend the bums that were better players.

Even when one of those bums was clearly dogging it?

Mike

Yep, Rondo was "Dogging it" to the tune of 8.3 pts, 10.8 assists, 1.7 steals, 7.5 rebounds.



Boy I'd hate to see if Rondo was "Playing For real,"......

[mctyson]

The post makes perfect sense.  Either you get door #1 with draft picks/expirings/TPEs...then spend same money on better players....thus having both things

or

door #2 =  overpay 2 good players and get a years supply of Rice-a-Roni and 5 more wins.

Indeed... and the problem with door #2 is that there was no guarantee either of those guys were even going to re-sign with us.  I don't believe Boston was the frontrunner to sign Rajon.  And if we WERE the frontrunner, we probably still are after Dallas fails to win a title.  Getting picks for them was just a smart move.

They were never going to sign with us because, if they did, we would have little flexibility to add the type of veteran player to both of the them that could have made the Celtics more competitive. 

Players get the financials of the NBA.  They have agents who get the financials even better.  Does anyone believe that Rondo's agent wasn't telling him the obvious:  if you max out with the Celtics they have basically no salary to spend on anyone else to make the team better?  Does anyone believe that Rondo wanted to do that?  I don't - neither did Ainge and that's why he was traded.  Jeff Green's situation was a little different but generally the same.

I also don't agree that we can sit here and say there are "better" players we can sign for the same money.  Grass is always greener and all that stuff.  You think they are better until they are not.  Plus, that doesn't fit with why Rondo and Green were traded...not because there are better players to spend the money on (that is legitimately debatable). 

They were traded because WE NEED ALOT MORE TALENT.  Either 3-5 players eventually of Rondo/Green caliber in place of them, or 1-2 All-Stars.  We are not going to get that signing Free Agents alone, maybe not my signing FAs at all.

I am perfectly fine with Danny not spending any of that money on anyone...and instead using it to hopefully resign a player we trade for.

[Celtics18]

The post makes perfect sense.  Either you get door #1 with draft picks/expirings/TPEs...then spend same money on better players....thus having both things

or

door #2 =  overpay 2 good players and get a years supply of Rice-a-Roni and 5 more wins.

Indeed... and the problem with door #2 is that there was no guarantee either of those guys were even going to re-sign with us.  I don't believe Boston was the frontrunner to sign Rajon.  And if we WERE the frontrunner, we probably still are after Dallas fails to win a title.  Getting picks for them was just a smart move.

They were never going to sign with us because, if they did, we would have little flexibility to add the type of veteran player to both of the them that could have made the Celtics more competitive. 

Players get the financials of the NBA.  They have agents who get the financials even better.  Does anyone believe that Rondo's agent wasn't telling him the obvious:  if you max out with the Celtics they have basically no salary to spend on anyone else to make the team better?  Does anyone believe that Rondo wanted to do that?  I don't - neither did Ainge and that's why he was traded.  Jeff Green's situation was a little different but generally the same.

I also don't agree that we can sit here and say there are "better" players we can sign for the same money.  Grass is always greener and all that stuff.  You think they are better until they are not.  Plus, that doesn't fit with why Rondo and Green were traded...not because there are better players to spend the money on (that is legitimately debatable). 

They were traded because WE NEED ALOT MORE TALENT.  Either 3-5 players eventually of Rondo/Green caliber in place of them, or 1-2 All-Stars.  We are not going to get that signing Free Agents alone, maybe not my signing FAs at all.

I am perfectly fine with Danny not spending any of that money on anyone...and instead using it to hopefully resign a player we trade for.

We would have had Rondo's Bird Rights.  This would have given us a good opportunity to re-sign him and add talent.

If I'm wrong on this, would someone let me know why. 

[BballTim]

The post makes perfect sense.  Either you get door #1 with draft picks/expirings/TPEs...then spend same money on better players....thus having both things

or

door #2 =  overpay 2 good players and get a years supply of Rice-a-Roni and 5 more wins.

Indeed... and the problem with door #2 is that there was no guarantee either of those guys were even going to re-sign with us.  I don't believe Boston was the frontrunner to sign Rajon.  And if we WERE the frontrunner, we probably still are after Dallas fails to win a title.  Getting picks for them was just a smart move.

  Still pushing your "let's sign some good players and bring back Rondo" idea? At least that made a little sense, assuming you ignore the fiscal realities of the nba.