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Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2015, 03:31:40 PM »

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Green and Bradley suck.

Next.

These are the 2 main culprits....mostly Bradley though---I've been a C's fan since 1974...and I've NEVER seen such a CHUCKER on this team as this guy---even Antoine Walker had more shooting sense...Bradley has almost completely Stopped playing hard defense (which was the ONLY reason he was in the league)...All he wants to do is score like Kobe---with 1/10 the talent.
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Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2015, 03:41:24 PM »

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I know everyone loves to hate Wallace around here, but he was 10x better in his prime than anybody on our team right now and he did it 100% through grit and hustle.  When he says this about our starters, I take notice.  I honestly hope he is in our front office in some capacity some day.  He was such a beast.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with Wallace saying this—he's a veteran, has paid his dues, and was a pretty good player in his day.

But some folks need to forget, for a minute at least, the speaker and focus on the statement: the starters have been stinking it up. And this is 100% true. And it needs to change ASAP.

90% of Boston's games this season have gone one of two ways: blown fourth-quarter leads, or big early holes that Boston nearly digs out of before falling just short. The starters stink and the closers stink, and in many cases those are the same people.
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Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2015, 03:48:51 PM »

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All righty then....whom is  our best player?
Which other team could this best player start for?

"Best player" is one he&* of a concept for this year's team, isn't it?

Jeff Green scores a lot, isn't aggressive, isn't a leader will never be either, let go of expecting it from him. He cannot "lift a team" and he isn't going to lift this one.

Bradley simply isn't a good enough player to carry this team.

Sullinger is the "first big off the bench" pretty much everywhere else right?
Zeller is a back up center.
Marcus Smart has started 5 or 6 NBA games?
"Evan Turner at the point" is one of the biggest Danny Ainge sak of sh&*% guaranteed losing experiments since Jordan Crawford who played so well he traded him.
Did I miss someone? The Dallas guys are such gold plated NBA starting material they had to throw in picks to get the deal done.

Phil Pressey our own Missouri Tiger is really one of the best point guard options for this squad. He has energy he passes, runs hard, attacks the basket, passes it to the right guy and gets it done. The issue with Pressey? I don't think he'd be in the NBA if ainge didn't have him here.

Blame Ainge, we have a sh&* sandwich and Danny is the cook.

Jeff Green was the starter for a Western Conference playoff team.

Bradley started over a future hall of famer for Boston.

Sully's PER is tied for 19th in the league at power forward.

Zeller's PER is 7th among centers.

Evan Turner almost single handedly beat the Bulls.

NBA pundits and observers have almost universally raved about Marcus Smart.

Pressey does suck.

Mike

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2015, 03:49:45 PM »

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Green and Bradley suck.

Next.

These are the 2 main culprits....mostly Bradley though---I've been a C's fan since 1974...and I've NEVER seen such a CHUCKER on this team as this guy---even Antoine Walker had more shooting sense...Bradley has almost completely Stopped playing hard defense (which was the ONLY reason he was in the league)...All he wants to do is score like Kobe---with 1/10 the talent.

Stevens is the one who told Bradley to chuck shots up like there's no tomorrow.

Mike

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2015, 04:49:10 PM »

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It is one thing when a star of Bird's caliber calls out his team mates,  but Wallace?   

However, I think all the guys on this team respect Wallace.  Nice of him to bail out Brad who has been taking a beating by those who think this team has enough talent, I doubt it will convince the delusional though.

I don't think many are questioning the talent on this team or should I say lack there of, but the effort this team plays with, the god awful passing, the crazy rotation. Come on CBS has to take the heat on some of this stuff. A good coach gets the most out of his players, I just don't see that here, not even close.

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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2015, 05:02:24 PM »

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Sully's PER is tied for 19th in the league at power forward.

Zeller's PER is 7th among centers.

Which is why I think we are tanking by playing Sully late in the games at C over Zeller.  CBS has done this the last two games.

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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2015, 05:02:24 PM »

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This team is being show cased for prospective GM's that are buyers.

The way the rotations are being played, is designed to allow other teams to look over the entire roster. Everyone is given minutes like CYO ball.

If a GM see's anyone they desire...lets talk.

There may be a few exceptions, but I think almost the whole team is "in the show room"
 

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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2015, 05:05:53 PM »

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This team is being show cased for prospective GM's that are buyers.

The way the rotations are being played, is designed to allow other teams to look over the entire roster. Everyone is given minutes like CYO ball.

If a GM see's anyone they desire...lets talk.

TP, I concur, we are trying to have a fire sale every game.  Curiously, I have noted KO and Zeller playing less in the fire sale maybe we are keeping them?

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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2015, 05:13:35 PM »

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I know everyone loves to hate Wallace around here, but he was 10x better in his prime than anybody on our team right now and he did it 100% through grit and hustle.  When he says this about our starters, I take notice.  I honestly hope he is in our front office in some capacity some day.  He was such a beast.
And how is this relevant to the fact that he can't play well enough to get off the pine right now?

That part isn't relevant, that's my point.  He knows the game better than anybody else on our roster and has first hand experience with the team.  I trust his judgement and the fact that his body has broken down is meaningless to it. 

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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2015, 06:02:43 PM »

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This team is being show cased for prospective GM's that are buyers.

The way the rotations are being played, is designed to allow other teams to look over the entire roster. Everyone is given minutes like CYO ball.

If a GM see's anyone they desire...lets talk.

TP, I concur, we are trying to have a fire sale every game.  Curiously, I have noted KO and Zeller playing less in the fire sale maybe we are keeping them?

If we are putting money on this I'd totally disagree. Of course anyone on the team is trade able but I don't believe in the idea of show casing. Also who are they show casing? Most often anyone we put out there sucks!

Guys it's just bad coaching, the lack of ability to get a rotation down and stick with it for 10 games. You are fishing but there are no fish in this pond!!

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« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2015, 06:41:21 PM »

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Guys it's just bad coaching

If he was such a bad coach, how did he get Butler to the NCAA finals not once but twice, even after losing his best player Hayward?

Re: Wallace: Slow starts aren't Brad's fault, it's on the starters
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2015, 06:58:19 PM »

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Guys it's just bad coaching

If he was such a bad coach, how did he get Butler to the NCAA finals not once but twice, even after losing his best player Hayward?

Being a good college coach doesn't crossover to a good NBA coach. I'm still holding out hope for CBS but every game I see the same things and I'm sick and tired of his nice guy approach hahaha.