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Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2014, 12:40:47 PM »

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Measures over 7-1 in socks and has a 7-4 wingspan

That's legit length right there. There's something to work with.

Don't really know about his upside for his overall game and athleticism, but man, 7'2" with 7'4" wingspan, that's great tools to be a rim protector.

Edit: He's a solid athlete looking at his Youtube clips. I'm on board.

I'm not an expert on wingspan but is his arms a little short for someone that tall?  Doesn't Noah Vonleh who is 6'10" have the same wingspan?

your right. But Bachynski is also 7'2. He has longer reach then Noah i'm guessing

Im not sure as well if that's an impressive wingspan for a guy his size.

But that's still a 7'4" wingspan. Simply put, his height and wingspan is the same as Roy Hibbert's. That length definitely would bother shots.

but standing reach (height + arm length) is not the same as wingspan (hold arms parallel to floor and measuring finger tip to finger tip) and the celtics' olly is a perfect example.

a player can have long arms but a short wingspan if his chest/shoulders is narrow. yet, having a narrow chest will not automatically reduce standing reach. let's not confuse these two.

for example, for our very own olly, his wingspan = 6' 9.75"; the average nba pf = 7' 1.1".

but, looking at olly's tanding reach? Olynyk = 9'; average NBA PF = 8' 11.1".

see? olly has narrow shoulders (check it out) and thus his wingspan is over 3" less than the average nba pf. yet, his standing reach is almost 1" longer than the average nba pf.

and when rebounding, standing reach - how tall you can go - counts more than wingspan. narrow shoulders are usually an indication that a player has a more limited ability to "bulk up" or become a stronger player.

for any eye-test comparison of shoulder types, look at howard's shoulders versus olly's shoulders. (dwight wingspan = 7'4.5"; sr = 9'3.5")

more info is here...
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kelly-Olynyk-19790/
http://ascreamingcomesacrossthecourt.blogspot.com/2013/05/average-draft-measurements-for-nba.html
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dwight-Howard-2888/
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Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2014, 12:44:23 PM »

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Umm Jordan Bachynski >>>>>> Fab Melo. The only similarity they have is that they are both over 7 feet.

As an ASU Alum and as someone who has watched the majority of Bachynski's games, I can safely say that Bachynski is the real deal. He is an absolute beast when ASU feeds it to him in the post. (Please see the 1:53 mark in this clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4_bYkw88sc)

Fab had zero post moves and had an extremely low basketball IQ. Bachynski has basketball in his blood. His brother plays for Utah, his sister plays for the Canadian national team,and his mom is a basketball ref.

The best part about watching Bachynski over the last 4 years is that he has gotten better and better every year. One can only imagine that he will continue to improve and he could make a dent in the NBA.

On the low side, I see him being Greg Stiemsma and on the high side, I can see him being similar to the version of Andrew Bogut that we are seeing today (not the Andrew Bogut of old). Bachynski will never be an all star, but he can easily be a very productive NBA player. What more could you ask for from a second round pick?

The Celtics need size desperately. With that said, the Celtics should definitely find a way to get him in the second round. (he is also a Mormon...may be that's another reason for Danny to draft him)

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2014, 01:02:27 PM »

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We had one of these type of players already in Fab Melo

JD can rebound and looks to have decent bbiq vs melo

Looks like a better shot blocker

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2014, 01:05:26 PM »

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Umm Jordan Bachynski >>>>>> Fab Melo. The only similarity they have is that they are both over 7 feet.

As an ASU Alum and as someone who has watched the majority of Bachynski's games, I can safely say that Bachynski is the real deal. He is an absolute beast when ASU feeds it to him in the post. (Please see the 1:53 mark in this clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4_bYkw88sc)

Fab had zero post moves and had an extremely low basketball IQ. Bachynski has basketball in his blood. His brother plays for Utah, his sister plays for the Canadian national team,and his mom is a basketball ref.

The best part about watching Bachynski over the last 4 years is that he has gotten better and better every year. One can only imagine that he will continue to improve and he could make a dent in the NBA.

On the low side, I see him being Greg Stiemsma and on the high side, I can see him being similar to the version of Andrew Bogut that we are seeing today (not the Andrew Bogut of old). Bachynski will never be an all star, but he can easily be a very productive NBA player. What more could you ask for from a second round pick?

The Celtics need size desperately. With that said, the Celtics should definitely find a way to get him in the second round. (he is also a Mormon...may be that's another reason for Danny to draft him)

Zdov,

Thanks for your very informed opinion.  I am an NC State fan and am curious, what do you and most ASU alumni think of Sendek, our former coach??

As I mentioned earlier, I always look at a player's progression.  Jordan has improved his FT shooting, rebounding and shot blocking EVERY single year.  That tells me he is a hard worker, seeking to consistently improve.

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Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2014, 01:12:16 PM »

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Measures over 7-1 in socks and has a 7-4 wingspan

That's legit length right there. There's something to work with.

Don't really know about his upside for his overall game and athleticism, but man, 7'2" with 7'4" wingspan, that's great tools to be a rim protector.

Edit: He's a solid athlete looking at his Youtube clips. I'm on board.

I'm not an expert on wingspan but is his arms a little short for someone that tall?  Doesn't Noah Vonleh who is 6'10" have the same wingspan?

your right. But Bachynski is also 7'2. He has longer reach then Noah i'm guessing

Im not sure as well if that's an impressive wingspan for a guy his size.

But that's still a 7'4" wingspan. Simply put, his height and wingspan is the same as Roy Hibbert's. That length definitely would bother shots.

but standing reach (height + arm length) is not the same as wingspan (hold arms parallel to floor and measuring finger tip to finger tip) and the celtics' olly is a perfect example.

a player can have long arms but a short wingspan if his chest/shoulders is narrow. yet, having a narrow chest will not automatically reduce standing reach. let's not confuse these two.

for example, for our very own olly, his wingspan = 6' 9.75"; the average nba pf = 7' 1.1".

but, looking at olly's tanding reach? Olynyk = 9'; average NBA PF = 8' 11.1".

see? olly has narrow shoulders (check it out) and thus his wingspan is over 3" less than the average nba pf. yet, his standing reach is almost 1" longer than the average nba pf.

and when rebounding, standing reach - how tall you can go - counts more than wingspan. narrow shoulders are usually an indication that a player has a more limited ability to "bulk up" or become a stronger player.

for any eye-test comparison of shoulder types, look at howard's shoulders versus olly's shoulders. (dwight wingspan = 7'4.5"; sr = 9'3.5")

more info is here...
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kelly-Olynyk-19790/
http://ascreamingcomesacrossthecourt.blogspot.com/2013/05/average-draft-measurements-for-nba.html
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dwight-Howard-2888/

Point taken.

Could not find any info as to how long his standing reach is. But a 7'2" player with a 7'4" wingspan, that's still something to get intrigued by.
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Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2014, 01:32:56 PM »

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Measures over 7-1 in socks and has a 7-4 wingspan

That's legit length right there. There's something to work with.

Don't really know about his upside for his overall game and athleticism, but man, 7'2" with 7'4" wingspan, that's great tools to be a rim protector.

Edit: He's a solid athlete looking at his Youtube clips. I'm on board.

I'm not an expert on wingspan but is his arms a little short for someone that tall?  Doesn't Noah Vonleh who is 6'10" have the same wingspan?

your right. But Bachynski is also 7'2. He has longer reach then Noah i'm guessing

Im not sure as well if that's an impressive wingspan for a guy his size.

But that's still a 7'4" wingspan. Simply put, his height and wingspan is the same as Roy Hibbert's. That length definitely would bother shots.

but standing reach (height + arm length) is not the same as wingspan (hold arms parallel to floor and measuring finger tip to finger tip) and the celtics' olly is a perfect example.

a player can have long arms but a short wingspan if his chest/shoulders is narrow. yet, having a narrow chest will not automatically reduce standing reach. let's not confuse these two.

for example, for our very own olly, his wingspan = 6' 9.75"; the average nba pf = 7' 1.1".

but, looking at olly's tanding reach? Olynyk = 9'; average NBA PF = 8' 11.1".

see? olly has narrow shoulders (check it out) and thus his wingspan is over 3" less than the average nba pf. yet, his standing reach is almost 1" longer than the average nba pf.

and when rebounding, standing reach - how tall you can go - counts more than wingspan. narrow shoulders are usually an indication that a player has a more limited ability to "bulk up" or become a stronger player.

for any eye-test comparison of shoulder types, look at howard's shoulders versus olly's shoulders. (dwight wingspan = 7'4.5"; sr = 9'3.5")

more info is here...
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kelly-Olynyk-19790/
http://ascreamingcomesacrossthecourt.blogspot.com/2013/05/average-draft-measurements-for-nba.html
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dwight-Howard-2888/

Point taken.

Could not find any info as to how long his standing reach is. But a 7'2" player with a 7'4" wingspan, that's still something to get intrigued by.

i agree completely with you. and look at the video of bachynski's shoulders. they are not as wide as dwight howard's shoulders. given that their wingspan is almost the same, bachynski probably has pretty long arms and a great standing reach.

watching the videos of this guy, i dont see how he lasts till the second round, but if ainge can get him then i would be pleased. if all bachynski becomes is a blocking machine on defense he is worth the 15th place on the roster...easily.
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Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2014, 02:05:40 PM »

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Measures over 7-1 in socks and has a 7-4 wingspan

That's legit length right there. There's something to work with.

Don't really know about his upside for his overall game and athleticism, but man, 7'2" with 7'4" wingspan, that's great tools to be a rim protector.

Edit: He's a solid athlete looking at his Youtube clips. I'm on board.

I'm not an expert on wingspan but is his arms a little short for someone that tall?  Doesn't Noah Vonleh who is 6'10" have the same wingspan?

your right. But Bachynski is also 7'2. He has longer reach then Noah i'm guessing

Im not sure as well if that's an impressive wingspan for a guy his size.

But that's still a 7'4" wingspan. Simply put, his height and wingspan is the same as Roy Hibbert's. That length definitely would bother shots.

but standing reach (height + arm length) is not the same as wingspan (hold arms parallel to floor and measuring finger tip to finger tip) and the celtics' olly is a perfect example.

a player can have long arms but a short wingspan if his chest/shoulders is narrow. yet, having a narrow chest will not automatically reduce standing reach. let's not confuse these two.

for example, for our very own olly, his wingspan = 6' 9.75"; the average nba pf = 7' 1.1".

but, looking at olly's tanding reach? Olynyk = 9'; average NBA PF = 8' 11.1".

see? olly has narrow shoulders (check it out) and thus his wingspan is over 3" less than the average nba pf. yet, his standing reach is almost 1" longer than the average nba pf.

and when rebounding, standing reach - how tall you can go - counts more than wingspan. narrow shoulders are usually an indication that a player has a more limited ability to "bulk up" or become a stronger player.

for any eye-test comparison of shoulder types, look at howard's shoulders versus olly's shoulders. (dwight wingspan = 7'4.5"; sr = 9'3.5")

more info is here...
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kelly-Olynyk-19790/
http://ascreamingcomesacrossthecourt.blogspot.com/2013/05/average-draft-measurements-for-nba.html
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dwight-Howard-2888/

TP for patiently explaining that

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2014, 03:33:03 PM »

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I watched the ASU upset over Arizona this weekend. bachynski looks like a nice second round pick gamble. He is big, and can run. He has a serious motor for a guy over 7 foot. Very impressive. His help defense and fire were fun to watch. He looked like a bigger Chris Anderson, With less hops.

Like Anderson though, he didnt guard other big guys all that well. And even though he is a senior, he did get pushed around quite a bit. Not like a Mikki Moore level of getting pushed around or anything. He was a heck of a presence on the floor.

I would definitely look at him in the second round, if the celtics get a hold of a second rounder.

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2014, 03:36:08 PM »

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He has blocked 24 shots in his last 3 games. And the opponents haven't been chumps.

Speaking of Arizona, Aaron Gordon continues to impress, even though he cant shoot. I like him a lot.

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2014, 03:38:05 PM »

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I watched the ASU upset over Arizona this weekend. bachynski looks like a nice second round pick gamble. He is big, and can run. He has a serious motor for a guy over 7 foot. Very impressive. His help defense and fire were fun to watch. He looked like a bigger Chris Anderson, With less hops.

Like Anderson though, he didnt guard other big guys all that well. And even though he is a senior, he did get pushed around quite a bit. Not like a Mikki Moore level of getting pushed around or anything. He was a heck of a presence on the floor.

I would definitely look at him in the second round, if the celtics get a hold of a second rounder.

Sounds like stiemsma

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2014, 03:51:51 PM »

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I watched the ASU upset over Arizona this weekend. bachynski looks like a nice second round pick gamble. He is big, and can run. He has a serious motor for a guy over 7 foot. Very impressive. His help defense and fire were fun to watch. He looked like a bigger Chris Anderson, With less hops.

Like Anderson though, he didnt guard other big guys all that well. And even though he is a senior, he did get pushed around quite a bit. Not like a Mikki Moore level of getting pushed around or anything. He was a heck of a presence on the floor.

I would definitely look at him in the second round, if the celtics get a hold of a second rounder.

Sounds like stiemsma

He is more active on offense than Greg. Good hands. He also runs really smoothly, and kept his energy level high despite playing high minutes.

It's too bad the ASU guards are terrible at entry passes, and also think they are a bunch of kobe bryants.

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2014, 07:42:34 AM »

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So Jordan Bachynski was not drafted. He is 7'2 and actually has skill. Not only that, he is a huge character guy. Seeing as the Celtics are lacking serious size, why would they not give Bachynski a shot? He definitely has a place in this league!!

Re: Jordan Bachynski
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2014, 07:46:53 AM »

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no we'll probably try to get Fab Melo back ::)  SOrry Im really disgusted this morning with Ainge.  I hope he has a plan.

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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2014, 07:56:59 AM »

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I think Bachynski is going to get invited to every camp and summer league team in the NBA.

I don't get the Fab Melo comparison at all. Bachynski is an unathletic giant who knows how to score but can't get up and down the court. Melo was the opposite. The one thing they had in common is that they were allowed to stand in the middle of the paint in the NCAA and swat everything away, and that they will both do very little damage on defense with the NBA's 3 second rule.