Kevin Love to Boston good or bad idea?

[Fafnir]

I know many think that's underpayment but look at what Minny got for KG, the difference in KG and Love and then I think that's fair.

What you think is fair is pretty irrelevant, Minnesota would not accept that package with Wallace coming back. They'd also demand more picks.

KG was 31 and the owner demanded that he be traded due to his contract and the team's losing status.

Love is going to be 26 this coming season, that's 5 years of his prime left and the owner doesn't want to trade him.

It's just as relevant/irrelevant as anyone else's opinion here.  Only Danny's opinion is really relevant. 

You're missing my point, Minnesota has to find the deal acceptable. Your initial offer won't pass that muster.

Also remember that your "fair" price for KG was actually a lottery pick higher. Minnesota lost out on the same deal + the number 5 pick because KG balked at the extension and Minny pulled out pre-draft.

Minnesota is going to be playing bids off each other and asking for the max from each team, they'd hang up on Boston under your terms.

[slamtheking]

Oh and one more thing...Looking at the KG trade v. Love possibility....This is what I think fits the most:

Boston Sends: Sully, Bass, Joel Anthony, Bayless, Bradley (S & T ~$7 Million) and this year's #17 pick and Brooklyn's 2016 pick

Boston receives: Kevin Love & Kevin Martin

That seems like logical value...Minnesota gains up to $12 Million in expiring contracts, two young promising players that are both cost controlled and two first round picks, one of which that could be a top-10 pick in 2016.  They also shed Martin's deal from their books.

Boston receives a top-10 player entering his prime and a shooter in Martin.

I'd hate to give up that unprotected Brooklyn pick.  I'd change it to the worse of the 2 picks that year.  either that or take that and Martin out of the deal.   I don't think Minny would do it for Love but I'm not attached to any of those players as building blocks worth keeping except Sully and he's the talent that needs to go out.  from a talent perspective it's basically Sully/AB/#17 for Love which is about what I proposed above.

[nacceltic]

Oh and one more thing...Looking at the KG trade v. Love possibility....This is what I think fits the most:

Boston Sends: Sully, Bass, Joel Anthony, Bayless, Bradley (S & T ~$7 Million) and this year's #17 pick and Brooklyn's 2016 pick

Boston receives: Kevin Love & Kevin Martin

That seems like logical value...Minnesota gains up to $12 Million in expiring contracts, two young promising players that are both cost controlled and two first round picks, one of which that could be a top-10 pick in 2016.  They also shed Martin's deal from their books.

Boston receives a top-10 player entering his prime and a shooter in Martin.

Yeah, that's not going to happen.

Can someone explain to me how that's a heist or doesn't have a chance at happening?

Look at the KG deal and compare those pieces above...

Jefferson v. Sully (slight check to AJ)
Telfair v. Bayless (Wash)
Theo's expiring v. Bass/Anthony expiring (Check to Bass/Anthony...they're actually useful)
Gerald Green v. Avery Bradley (Check to Bradley)
Two future firsts v. #17 & Brooklyn's unprotected pick in '16 (At least a wash...check to this year if you believe that Brooklyn will suck by 2016)

I don't believe you can just easily dismiss the deal....I think it matches up close to what Minnesota received for Garnett in '07...Only difference is Ryan Gomes was also part of that deal...Not a big chip.

Only question I do have is could this actually work? Looking for help from more cap savvy posters, please.

[D.o.s.]

Draft picks are considerably more valued now than they were in 2007. Flip Saunders would have to be an absolute moron not to ask for as many of Bostons 1st rounders, including this year's high pick, as possible -- not to mention the Brooklyn and LA picks.

[McHales Pits]

Ricky Rubio: "Kevin (Love) is a special player. I mean, his numbers are amazing but maybe our leader must be another player. He is our leader in scoring and other things but vocally he is not the type of player that wants to be or that can be the leader. There are many kind of leaders. I think that he was not the leader we needed vocally. Perhaps Kevin Martin could have been our leader because he had more experience. Perhaps I could take a step forward to be the leader." Canal Plus - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/kevin_love#sthash.2bHinfQP.dpuf


Interesting quote...

[Fafnir]

I think that Martin could absolutely move with Love in any deal, Minnesota likely doesn't want any part of his contract if they've traded Love. (though I could be wrong if they value Martin as an asset separately)

They aren't taking worse contracts than Martin's back though.