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Re: NBA stars comment on C's rebuilding and as a free agency spot
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2014, 07:24:14 PM »

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TP as usual sed, these little tidbits you pull together are well-appreciated.

The only thing about these quotes I find unsatisfying is that the sample is of guys who obviously "get it." They're mature vets who care about winning and in many cases have sacrificed toward that goal. (The exception is Howard but I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth).

I want to hear from Kyrie Irving, Demarcus Cousins, etc...the young guys the Celts will presumably be trying to acquire. Do they get it too?

Maybe the Celtics should be focused on mature veterans rather than those young guys if the team is chasing after someone in free agency.

The goal should be finding guys who can be Celtics for life, not Celtics for the next ten years.

Good point.

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« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2014, 07:39:33 PM »

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Ten years is a long time.

Re: NBA stars comment on C's rebuilding and as a free agency spot
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2014, 07:53:20 PM »

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Ten years is a long time.

We only had KG for six, you're right about that.

I was agreeing less with the "lifetime" part of the comment and more with the "maturity" part. I think we need guys who have already come to the realization that team goals trump individual goals.

It's not even about age, really. I suspect that Kevin Durant has always been pretty mature in that regard.

Re: NBA stars comment on C's rebuilding and as a free agency spot
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2014, 09:18:42 PM »

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I'm not buyinhg this happy talk from the Herald and Globe.  What do you expect their writers to say?  We suck?  Don't the Celtics advertise in their papers? We're doomed if we don't _____ (fill in the blank).

While I agree that it's largely fluff talk, it's not like the Herald told Kobe, Howard, Wade, Durant, etc. what to say.  (I think the scared player was Lebron. )

The scared player wasn't a player at all. From the article:
The fact the Celtics have given themselves so many options is a bit disconcerting to one ranking official from an opposing club who is used to seeing teams struggle for long periods of time hoping for a way out.

“Off the record?” he said. “They scare the (expletive) out of me. If things go right for them in the draft and they’re able to use some of those other picks to make a deal or two, they could be right back in this thing.

“And when you look at some of the teams in our league that have been stuck in the mud for years, it has to be hard for them to watch Boston set themselves up so fast.”

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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2014, 09:32:42 PM »

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I'm not buyinhg this happy talk from the Herald and Globe.  What do you expect their writers to say?  We suck?  Don't the Celtics advertise in their papers? We're doomed if we don't _____ (fill in the blank).

While I agree that it's largely fluff talk, it's not like the Herald told Kobe, Howard, Wade, Durant, etc. what to say.  (I think the scared player was Lebron. )

The scared player wasn't a player at all. From the article:
The fact the Celtics have given themselves so many options is a bit disconcerting to one ranking official from an opposing club who is used to seeing teams struggle for long periods of time hoping for a way out.

“Off the record?” he said. “They scare the (expletive) out of me. If things go right for them in the draft and they’re able to use some of those other picks to make a deal or two, they could be right back in this thing.

“And when you look at some of the teams in our league that have been stuck in the mud for years, it has to be hard for them to watch Boston set themselves up so fast.”


TP. It never dawned on me to actually click on the article.

I don't know if it's blind homerism but I really feel like it's us and the Bulls that have the assets to go from pretender to contender the soonest without being unrealistically lucky. Maybe Phoenix too.

Re: NBA stars comment on C's rebuilding and as a free agency spot
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2014, 11:16:00 AM »

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I'm a fan of Love, Melo, and Gasol. The big 3 free agents this and next year, that we may or may not be primed to get, but unfortunately, I don't buy any of this.

Here are a list of the best free agent signings we've had are:
Dana Barros
Xavier McDaniel
Dominique Wilkins who was coming off a relatively average season
Rasheed Wallace who basically retired right after
James Posey
A 50,000 year old Shaq.

None of that is hardly even worth mentioning or being impressed about.

If Love signs with the Celtics, it'll be the first the young player still elite, that hasn't gone beyond the middle of their career, to play for Boston to try and a win a title and I'll name my son Kevin.
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Re: NBA stars comment on C's rebuilding and as a free agency spot
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2014, 01:06:04 PM »

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I'm not sure I'd want a Love / Rondo / Melo trio in Boston. 

I think that's just  bad combination.  Love and Carmello are both relatively inefficient scorers and both are poor defensive players.  That would be a lot like the Melo + Amare experiment IMO and the Knicks were significantly worse statistically when both of those guys were on the court together.

When your two biggest stars are offense-only players (and fairly inefficient ones at that) it's probably not a good start.   Love is too much of a jump shooter for my taste.  Really not a fan of bigs who take as many threes as he does.  Would much rather a Monroe + Melo combination.  Monroe still isn't known for his D, but he'd give us a low post presence which I think would better compliment Carmello's game.

While I do agree with you that the mixture of those 3 wouldn't be as good as it seems on paper, I don't really think you can say they are inefficient at scoring.

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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2014, 02:15:39 PM »

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I'm not sure I'd want a Love / Rondo / Melo trio in Boston. 

I think that's just  bad combination.  Love and Carmello are both relatively inefficient scorers and both are poor defensive players.  That would be a lot like the Melo + Amare experiment IMO and the Knicks were significantly worse statistically when both of those guys were on the court together.

When your two biggest stars are offense-only players (and fairly inefficient ones at that) it's probably not a good start.   Love is too much of a jump shooter for my taste.  Really not a fan of bigs who take as many threes as he does.  Would much rather a Monroe + Melo combination.  Monroe still isn't known for his D, but he'd give us a low post presence which I think would better compliment Carmello's game.

While I do agree with you that the mixture of those 3 wouldn't be as good as it seems on paper, I don't really think you can say they are inefficient at scoring.

Plenty of people say Carmelo Anthony is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are right.  A fewer number of people say Kevin Love is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are wrong.
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Re: NBA stars comment on C's rebuilding and as a free agency spot
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2014, 02:18:44 PM »

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I'm not sure I'd want a Love / Rondo / Melo trio in Boston. 

I think that's just  bad combination.  Love and Carmello are both relatively inefficient scorers and both are poor defensive players.  That would be a lot like the Melo + Amare experiment IMO and the Knicks were significantly worse statistically when both of those guys were on the court together.

When your two biggest stars are offense-only players (and fairly inefficient ones at that) it's probably not a good start.   Love is too much of a jump shooter for my taste.  Really not a fan of bigs who take as many threes as he does.  Would much rather a Monroe + Melo combination.  Monroe still isn't known for his D, but he'd give us a low post presence which I think would better compliment Carmello's game.

While I do agree with you that the mixture of those 3 wouldn't be as good as it seems on paper, I don't really think you can say they are inefficient at scoring.

Plenty of people say Carmelo Anthony is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are right.  A fewer number of people say Kevin Love is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are wrong.

Am I the only one who'd rather have Tyson Chandler to pair with Love, instead of Melo?

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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2014, 02:19:50 PM »

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I'm not sure I'd want a Love / Rondo / Melo trio in Boston. 

I think that's just  bad combination.  Love and Carmello are both relatively inefficient scorers and both are poor defensive players.  That would be a lot like the Melo + Amare experiment IMO and the Knicks were significantly worse statistically when both of those guys were on the court together.

When your two biggest stars are offense-only players (and fairly inefficient ones at that) it's probably not a good start.   Love is too much of a jump shooter for my taste.  Really not a fan of bigs who take as many threes as he does.  Would much rather a Monroe + Melo combination.  Monroe still isn't known for his D, but he'd give us a low post presence which I think would better compliment Carmello's game.

While I do agree with you that the mixture of those 3 wouldn't be as good as it seems on paper, I don't really think you can say they are inefficient at scoring.

Plenty of people say Carmelo Anthony is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are right.  A fewer number of people say Kevin Love is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are wrong.

Melo is an great scorer, not really an efficient one. I was talking mainly about Love, should have clarified.

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« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2014, 02:21:09 PM »

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I'm not sure I'd want a Love / Rondo / Melo trio in Boston. 

I think that's just  bad combination.  Love and Carmello are both relatively inefficient scorers and both are poor defensive players.  That would be a lot like the Melo + Amare experiment IMO and the Knicks were significantly worse statistically when both of those guys were on the court together.

When your two biggest stars are offense-only players (and fairly inefficient ones at that) it's probably not a good start.   Love is too much of a jump shooter for my taste.  Really not a fan of bigs who take as many threes as he does.  Would much rather a Monroe + Melo combination.  Monroe still isn't known for his D, but he'd give us a low post presence which I think would better compliment Carmello's game.

While I do agree with you that the mixture of those 3 wouldn't be as good as it seems on paper, I don't really think you can say they are inefficient at scoring.

Plenty of people say Carmelo Anthony is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are right.  A fewer number of people say Kevin Love is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are wrong.

Am I the only one who'd rather have Tyson Chandler to pair with Love, instead of Melo?

Nope *raises hand

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« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2014, 03:18:41 PM »

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I'm not sure I'd want a Love / Rondo / Melo trio in Boston. 

I think that's just  bad combination.  Love and Carmello are both relatively inefficient scorers and both are poor defensive players.  That would be a lot like the Melo + Amare experiment IMO and the Knicks were significantly worse statistically when both of those guys were on the court together.

When your two biggest stars are offense-only players (and fairly inefficient ones at that) it's probably not a good start.   Love is too much of a jump shooter for my taste.  Really not a fan of bigs who take as many threes as he does.  Would much rather a Monroe + Melo combination.  Monroe still isn't known for his D, but he'd give us a low post presence which I think would better compliment Carmello's game.

While I do agree with you that the mixture of those 3 wouldn't be as good as it seems on paper, I don't really think you can say they are inefficient at scoring.

Plenty of people say Carmelo Anthony is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are right.  A fewer number of people say Kevin Love is an inefficient scorer.  Those people are wrong.

Melo is an great scorer, not really an efficient one. I was talking mainly about Love, should have clarified.

I am most definitely not a big Carmelo fan, but I'm not sure I agree that he is inefficient.

He is scoring about 1.27 points per shot -- that's really very efficient.  And he's scoring .39 points every time he touches the ball.  That's 4th in the NBA among players getting over 30 mpg, minimum 45 games.  That fantastic scoring efficiency.

His shooting efficiencies are also excellent with an eFG% of .496 and a TS% of .555.

I'm not one of those crying to trade half our team to bring 'Melo to the Celtics.   But he is NOT an inefficient scorer.

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