Celtics-Nets roster comparison

[JBcat]

I thought it would be interesting if we had a thread that we could bump every now and then to evaluate the rosters of these 2 teams.  Obviously the Nets are all in, and we are taking the long term approach.  It will be interesting to follow the timeline if it's a year from now, 2 years from now, 3 years from now, or after we get the last asset from the Nets the 2018 first round pick, when we will be better than the Nets again. 

At this moment in time the Nets have an advantage at every starting position except for PG when Rondo is healthy, (and Williams is currently nursing an ankle injury). 

The Nets have a very good bench, but I'm not completely sold the mix of Kirlinko, Blatche, Evans, Plumlee, Terry, Livingston, Taylor ect will be better than who we have coming off the bench.   Kirlinko leads that group but Wallace imo has the potential to be just as good him this season.

With KG, Pierce, and Johnson when if it all will be the breaking point when they get too old, and our starters at those positions are better than theirs.   

It's going to be very hard for us to get a center in the future that is as good as Lopez, but Lopez has been prone to getting injured.   What if he turns out like Bogut. 

With the coach comparison I'd much rather have Stevens.

I think most preseason preseason predictions have the Nets as a top 4 in the East, and us as possibly a bottom 4 team.   

I just think it's going to be very interesting following the subplots between the 2 teams since we have so much of their future assets, and they now have KG and Pierce.  It will also be interesting following the timeline to see how and when we improve to hopefully being better than the Nets again, and how hopefully the Nets deteriorate.

[LarBrd33]

I think the 7th best player on Brooklyn would be the best player on this team...  unless Rondo comes back this season.  In which case, the 7th best player on Brooklyn would be the 2nd best player on this team.

There's no comparing these two teams at this point.  Across the boards they have more talent on paper.  Better SG, better SF, better PF, better C, better bench.  The only one you could really argue is that Rondo is better than D-Will... and you'd get some pushback from non-homers.

[Vermont Green]

At this moment in time the Nets have an advantage at every starting position except for PG when Rondo is healthy, (and Williams is currently nursing an ankle injury). 

Not sure where you are trying to go with this but I don't think it is a given that Rondo will have a better season than Williams.

Williams had a weak first half of the season last year I think due to injury but post-allstar, he averaged 22.9 pts on 48% 2pt/42% 3pt % and 8.0 assts.

This compares to career marks of 17.8 pts and 9.0 assists.

If healthy (and that seems to be an equal question for both players) I would expect Williams to be better than Rondo as he has been for most of his career (first half of last season notwithstanding).

As for the rest of the team, is there really any comparison?

[LarBrd33]

At this moment in time the Nets have an advantage at every starting position except for PG when Rondo is healthy, (and Williams is currently nursing an ankle injury). 

Not sure where you are trying to go with this but I don't think it is a given that Rondo will have a better season than Williams.

Williams had a weak first half of the season last year I think due to injury but post-allstar, he averaged 22.9 pts on 48% 2pt/42% 3pt % and 8.0 assts.

This compares to career marks of 17.8 pts and 9.0 assists.

If healthy (and that seems to be an equal question for both players) I would expect Williams to be better than Rondo as he has been for most of his career (first half of last season notwithstanding).

As for the rest of the team, is there really any comparison?

You wouldn't be alone in thinking D-Will is better than Rondo.  A lot of recent "player rankings" put Rondo behind D-Will.  Sports Illustrated recently claimed Rondo was the 26th best player in the league and D-Will was 24th:  http://nba.si.com/2013/09/18/nba-top-100-players-30-21-kevin-garnett-paul-george/2/  ... Side Note:  Both those guys were ranked behind Rose, Westbrook, CP3, Steph Curry, Kyrie Irving and Tony Parker


Bottom line is that across the board, Brooklyn has more talent than this team.

[JBcat]

At this moment in time the Nets have an advantage at every starting position except for PG when Rondo is healthy, (and Williams is currently nursing an ankle injury). 

Not sure where you are trying to go with this but I don't think it is a given that Rondo will have a better season than Williams.

Williams had a weak first half of the season last year I think due to injury but post-allstar, he averaged 22.9 pts on 48% 2pt/42% 3pt % and 8.0 assts.

This compares to career marks of 17.8 pts and 9.0 assists.

If healthy (and that seems to be an equal question for both players) I would expect Williams to be better than Rondo as he has been for most of his career (first half of last season notwithstanding).

As for the rest of the team, is there really any comparison?

You wouldn't be alone in thinking D-Will is better than Rondo.  A lot of recent "player rankings" put Rondo behind D-Will.  Sports Illustrated recently claimed Rondo was the 26th best player in the league and D-Will was 24th:  http://nba.si.com/2013/09/18/nba-top-100-players-30-21-kevin-garnett-paul-george/2/  ... Side Note:  Both those guys were ranked behind Rose, Westbrook, CP3, Steph Curry, Kyrie Irving and Tony Parker


Bottom line is that across the board, Brooklyn has more talent than this team.

I miss spoke about Rondo-Williams.  I was just trying to make the point it's not clear either way who is better.  If Williams reverts back to the way he played last year then maybe Rondo is better.  If he plays like he did the 2nd half of the season then maybe he is better than Rondo.

Yes, obviously the Nets have a better team and it's no comparison.  I was just pointing out it will be interesting to follow from now until hopefully when we are better.

I'm not sold just yet the Nets have a better bench than us but that's just my opinion.  We'll see how it plays out.

[Endless Paradise]

I'm not sold just yet the Nets have a better bench than us but that's just my opinion.  We'll see how it plays out.

Two starting-worthy players on the bench in Kirilenko and Blatche.  The Nets have one of the deepest teams in the league.

[fitzhickey]

I'm not sold just yet the Nets have a better bench than us but that's just my opinion.  We'll see how it plays out.

Two starting-worthy players on the bench in Kirilenko and Blatche.  The Nets have one of the deepest teams in the league.

Jet is also still a valuable player off the bench too

[jambr380]

Their bench, which is very very good, is actually comparable to our bench. Unfortunately, their bench is also comparable to our starting line-up. We are a deep team with a lot of solid players fighting for minutes, but only Rondo and [probably] Green are difference makers.

[JBcat]

Their bench, which is very very good, is actually comparable to our bench. Unfortunately, their bench is also comparable to our starting line-up. We are a deep team with a lot of solid players fighting for minutes, but only Rondo and [probably] Green are difference makers.

Yeah I agree with this although I think Sully could also be a difference maker level player this season.