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CBA-ologist help please?--sign contract for future?
« on: July 17, 2013, 02:36:59 PM »

Offline bballee

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Could an injured player sign a contract now for the 2014-15 season?  Could we trade Brandon Bass ($6.45)to the Mavericks for Carter ($3.18M), Josh Akognon/Jae Crowder ($0.79), and a sign&trade of Shane Larkin ($1.28M)(who currently has broken leg--so contract to start 2014-2015?)?

Or considering Dallas' dearth of big men,
Shavlik Randolph ($1.11M) for a sign&trade of Shane Larkin ($1.28M)

Re: CBA-ologist help please?--sign contract for future?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2013, 02:55:43 PM »

Offline Monkhouse

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Could an injured player sign a contract now for the 2014-15 season?  Could we trade Brandon Bass ($6.45)to the Mavericks for Carter ($3.18M), Josh Akognon/Jae Crowder ($0.79), and a sign&trade of Shane Larkin ($1.28M)(who currently has broken leg--so contract to start 2014-2015?)?

Or considering Dallas' dearth of big men,
Shavlik Randolph ($1.11M) for a sign&trade of Shane Larkin ($1.28M)

No.

In order for players to be traded, they must pass a physical, and be ready by game opening night in order to be successfully healthy enough to be traded.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2013, 02:56:42 PM »

Offline Fafnir

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That's not true, teams can waive passing a physical if they choose to complete a trade.

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2013, 02:57:31 PM »

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That's not true, teams can waive passing a physical if they choose to complete a trade.

Really? I don't remember reading about that.

Either way, I doubt any of these trades would occur. And I also seriously doubt Shavlik Randolph would grant us Shane Larkin.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2013, 02:59:23 PM »

Offline Fafnir

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That's not true, teams can waive passing a physical if they choose to complete a trade.

Really? I don't remember reading about that.

Either way, I doubt any of these trades would occur. And I also seriously doubt Shavlik Randolph would grant us Shane Larkin.
Its happened with players who aren't healthy but are necessary for trades to happen via the salary cap.

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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2013, 03:06:35 PM »

Offline danglertx

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You can't sign a futures contract.  Read that in the CBA the other day.  You could sign a guy now for that in injured and out for the season to a two year contract though.

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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2013, 06:06:45 PM »

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That's not true, teams can waive passing a physical if they choose to complete a trade.

Really? I don't remember reading about that.
IIRC, Rafe LaFrance didn't pass his physical, but Danny wanted him anyway...or wanted Walker off the team so bad he didn't care whether Rafe could play or not.

Oh, and if Larkin hasn't signed a contract yet, his "rights" could be traded. The team acquiring those rights would have, what is it?, a year?, to ink him to a deal. I think that's for 1st round guys. For 2nd round guys you have their rights forever, I think.

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2013, 07:36:13 PM »

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If you weren't allowed to sign an injured player, there would have been no talk about the idea of signing Greg Oden and letting him rehab, hoping he would eventually be able to play.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2013, 08:13:47 PM »

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If you weren't allowed to sign an injured player, there would have been no talk about the idea of signing Greg Oden and letting him rehab, hoping he would eventually be able to play.

Signing and trading are two completely different things though...
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It's based on your perspective, quite simply
We're the same and we're not; know what I'm saying? Listen
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