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Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2013, 01:41:50 PM »

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I can't wait to see these threads revisited when Olynyk is averaging 4 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 0.7 BPG, 1.4 APG while shooting 44/32/80 and is fouling at a rate almost as high as his PPG rate.

Also, I watched a lot of Sikma. Sikma was a true center that could hit the 15-17 footer but who's game was more physical and located in the post. He was extremely strong and hard to move in the post and had excellent rebounding fundamentals. His handle was very good for that era but not like what some bigs have today.

I just don't see a lot of similarities in their game.


I don't understand this line of thinking... I don't get how you want to see this, all so you can gloat? Why wouldn't a Celtic fan want and be excited at the possibility a player on their team can turn out to be a good player. I hope I get to revisit this threads if he turns out great. What does it do for you if he turns out to be over-hyped, what does it do for the team? Sure you get to say "I told you so" but what do you gain from that?
I think you got me all wrong there ImShak. I want Olynyk to be awesome. I want him to be one of the greatest of all time.

But I temper my enthusiasm with some reality.

Olynyk isn't the next Jack Sikma or Dirk Nowitzki or Larry Bird. Not even close. And not right now.

He has skills but the skills he showed this week were against a level of talent that probably won't even be in the league this year. What happens when he is matched up against Serge Ibaka, Anderson Varejao, Tim Duncan, leBron James, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Garnett, etc., etc.? Probably not good things, right?

I am just trying to temper expectations because some here are going off the deep end with unbridled enthusiam and are going to have a huge letdown when he isn't some kind of instant ROY candidate or All-Star. And when those expectations aren't met, people here tend to go the complete opposite direction and start hating the guy because he isn't All-NBA.

I saw him play in college and in the Summer League. He's got offensive skills, works hard and a lot of physical limitations that kill him defensively. I don't think he turns out to be anything special, but I really don't think many in this draft will be. It was a draft pretty devoid of top tier talent or even rotation playing talent.

I hope I am wrong. I hope he becomes one hell of a player. But let's at least see him in some NBA games before coronating him King of the Celtics.

Andrew Nicholson, Tony Mitchell, Terrence Jones, (and probably even Justin Harper) will all be in the league this year.

I just want to add that I'd be just fine with Kelly being guarded by Carmelo.

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Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2013, 03:51:22 PM »

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I can't wait to see these threads revisited when Olynyk is averaging 4 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 0.7 BPG, 1.4 APG while shooting 44/32/80 and is fouling at a rate almost as high as his PPG rate.

Also, I watched a lot of Sikma. Sikma was a true center that could hit the 15-17 footer but who's game was more physical and located in the post. He was extremely strong and hard to move in the post and had excellent rebounding fundamentals. His handle was very good for that era but not like what some bigs have today.

I just don't see a lot of similarities in their game.


I don't understand this line of thinking... I don't get how you want to see this, all so you can gloat? Why wouldn't a Celtic fan want and be excited at the possibility a player on their team can turn out to be a good player. I hope I get to revisit this threads if he turns out great. What does it do for you if he turns out to be over-hyped, what does it do for the team? Sure you get to say "I told you so" but what do you gain from that?
I think you got me all wrong there ImShak. I want Olynyk to be awesome. I want him to be one of the greatest of all time.

But I temper my enthusiasm with some reality.

Olynyk isn't the next Jack Sikma or Dirk Nowitzki or Larry Bird. Not even close. And not right now.

He has skills but the skills he showed this week were against a level of talent that probably won't even be in the league this year. What happens when he is matched up against Serge Ibaka, Anderson Varejao, Tim Duncan, leBron James, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Garnett, etc., etc.? Probably not good things, right?

I am just trying to temper expectations because some here are going off the deep end with unbridled enthusiam and are going to have a huge letdown when he isn't some kind of instant ROY candidate or All-Star. And when those expectations aren't met, people here tend to go the complete opposite direction and start hating the guy because he isn't All-NBA.

I saw him play in college and in the Summer League. He's got offensive skills, works hard and a lot of physical limitations that kill him defensively. I don't think he turns out to be anything special, but I really don't think many in this draft will be. It was a draft pretty devoid of top tier talent or even rotation playing talent.

I hope I am wrong. I hope he becomes one hell of a player. But let's at least see him in some NBA games before coronating him King of the Celtics.

I understand that you are trying to temper expectations for our own protection.  Have a little faith, though, that some of us have the ability to experience unbridled enthusiasm while at the same time being able to come to terms with the reality that this unathletic rookie that we have fallen in love with during summer league may struggle some when he goes up against the big boys. 

I promise not to hate him if he has some growing pains in his rookie campaign. 
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Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2013, 04:01:18 PM »

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kelly olynyk = kelly olynyk


let the kid be himself, no need for comparissons.


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Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2013, 04:09:17 PM »

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Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2013, 04:18:16 PM »

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He has skills but the skills he showed this week were against a level of talent that probably won't even be in the league this year. What happens when he is matched up against Serge Ibaka, Anderson Varejao, Tim Duncan, leBron James, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Garnett, etc., etc.? Probably not good things, right?

While this is true, I think it is better for him to have excelled that did poorly.

Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2013, 08:42:21 PM »

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Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2013, 09:26:37 PM »

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Yes or No.

Kelly Olynyk plays like Jack Sikma.

Anyone as old as me?

Jack Sikma whose got the keys to mah bimma?

I'm not sure who you talking about, but if he was decent he must of been from ancient ago.

All i know is Olynyk is like a very good oldschool 80's player that is playing in the modern nba. And opposing players a freaking confused it looks like.

Nothing old school about a 7 foot PF who shoots the three.

He does have some post moves, though.
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Re: Kelly Olynyk = Jack Sikma
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2013, 11:33:31 PM »

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" For the most part, but Jack was a far superior rebounder.

And I think Kelly has better range.



His game was modeled after Dirk, and I really think that Dirk is the best possible comparison (poor, poor, poor man's dirk).

Edit: His game shares the same strengths and weaknesses as Dirk. Both are very skilled and can handle the ball. They can shoot and are 7 feet tall. They aren't the best defenders, nor are they athletic beasts. They aren't dominant rebounders either."
to this poster, i agree 100 pct.  posted about KO playing like Dirk about 2 days after seeing him play for 2 games. I don't think he has the physical strength at this time to be compared to jack s., maybe when he bulks up. plus, there was jack sikma, before there was kevin mchale. kevin did have more post up moves though.