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Does Danny value true PGs?
« on: July 04, 2013, 10:24:19 PM »

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Danny has done a good job so far this season considering We lost two all-time greats; however he seems to have a real problem getting decent PG help for Rondo.

Ainge never had huge assist numbers as a player and DJ was not a true PG either. Seems this playing experience has left him somewhat ambivalent about the need for a true PG. And yet it is glaringly obvious that his teams have always suffered without someone to initiate the offense and push the ball up the court to apply pressure on opposing defense.

Please Danny, Rondo may not even play till December, Please get him some help at the PG position (and I am not talking about Nolan Smith).

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2013, 10:26:41 PM »

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yes he does. he was the one who bought back into that draft to pick up rondo, and then extended rondo's contract long term... Thats very telling of him valuing a player

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2013, 10:53:13 PM »

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yes he does. he was the one who bought back into that draft to pick up rondo, and then extended rondo's contract long term... Thats very telling of him valuing a player

Sure he was valuing a player, but not necessarily valuing a true PG. Danny loves BPAs/dropping prospects, no matter their position. Danny picked him out of talent, not out of position. I agree with OP - I think that if you had 2 equally talented players where one was a pure PG and the other was anything else, Danny would go with the latter in most scenarios. He simply doesn't value them very much.

Other than Rondo, there hasn't really been much of an attempt to get a back-up pure PG on the team. You see a lot of combos like Delonte West and Jason Terry, though.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2013, 10:54:47 PM »

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yes he does. he was the one who bought back into that draft to pick up rondo, and then extended rondo's contract long term... Thats very telling of him valuing a player

Sure he was valuing a player, but not necessarily valuing a true PG. Danny loves BPAs/dropping prospects, no matter their position. Danny picked him out of talent, not out of position. I agree with OP - I think that if you had 2 equally talented players where one was a pure PG and the other was anything else, Danny would go with the latter in most scenarios. He simply doesn't value them very much.

Other than Rondo, there hasn't really been much of an attempt to get a back-up pure PG on the team. You see a lot of combos like Delonte West and Jason Terry, though.
back up pg wasnt a need because rondo played 52 minutes per game, and if he got injured, we could just sub one of our combo guards to fill in.

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2013, 11:00:33 PM »

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yes he does. he was the one who bought back into that draft to pick up rondo, and then extended rondo's contract long term... Thats very telling of him valuing a player

Sure he was valuing a player, but not necessarily valuing a true PG. Danny loves BPAs/dropping prospects, no matter their position. Danny picked him out of talent, not out of position. I agree with OP - I think that if you had 2 equally talented players where one was a pure PG and the other was anything else, Danny would go with the latter in most scenarios. He simply doesn't value them very much.

Other than Rondo, there hasn't really been much of an attempt to get a back-up pure PG on the team. You see a lot of combos like Delonte West and Jason Terry, though.
back up pg wasnt a need because rondo played 52 minutes per game, and if he got injured, we could just sub one of our combo guards to fill in.

Ainge loves combos a lot. He prefers them way more than pure PGs. I haven't seen a pure PG other than Rondo and maybe Cassell in a Celtics jersey since 2007.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2013, 11:06:29 PM »

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In a team where the ball ran through Pierce, even with Rondo here, finding a true PG to be a back-up was the least of our priorities.
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Sure he values true PGs here. If he didn't he wouldn't defend Rajon as hard as he does. And if he didn't you wouldn't see Phil Pressey here either. Pressey though is the first true PG I've seen this team go after since Rajon though but he is as true as it gets. Excellent pick n roll PG. I hope he makes the team.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2013, 11:49:37 PM »

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I think its ridiculous to think ainge doesnt value true pg's just because he never got a back up to rondo. Rondo is expected to play 90% of pg minutes at a minimum, and 90% of our offensive plays run through him. He is the definition of our team, and danny is fully invested into rondo and has been for these past few years. an elite pure pg is an x-factor because they are rare in the league

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Arguably, Ainge believes in Rondo so much that he avoided getting a veteran back-up to give Doc no choice but to play Rondo at PG, then believed in him so much that he felt no need to get a dedicated backup because Rondo was so awesome.
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In a team where the ball ran through Pierce, even with Rondo here, finding a true PG to be a back-up was the least of our priorities.
+1

We never invested more than a minimum contract slot on a backup PG basically.

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2013, 07:30:37 AM »

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Outside of a franchise player, doubt he cares much. Why should he? The teams he played on never really had 'em, nor did the ones he lost to (read: Bulls, Rockets). And not much has changed -- winning teams are built around star wings or bigs, not PGs.
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Re: Does Danny value true PGs?
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2013, 07:52:49 AM »

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Outside of a franchise player, doubt he cares much. Why should he? The teams he played on never really had 'em, nor did the ones he lost to (read: Bulls, Rockets). And not much has changed -- winning teams are built around star wings or bigs, not PGs.
It doesn't matter what position they play as long as they dominate. Rose lead the bulls to the number 1 seed but then did his acl, as we all know. Parker lead the spurs to the nba finals but him and the rest of his team just ran out of puff and couldn't keep up with Miami.

I think he should care because rondo will be out for a bit and our pg is pressey. The kid is good but he's not starter material. He should care because it affects the teams record.