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Rebuilding Mode: Veterans Or Young Players
« on: May 13, 2013, 02:45:13 PM »

Offline krook

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lets say celtics rebuilding in mode
would you take trade or released all your veterans
and convert your roster to all young players

how do you construct your roster, be a team like cleveland?

or acquire experienced players and become like knicks team?

« Last Edit: May 13, 2013, 02:51:28 PM by krook »

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lets say celtics rebuilding in mode
would you take trade or released all your veterans
and convert your roster to all young players

how do you construct your roster, be a team like cleveland?

or acquire experienced players and become like knicks team?

For rebuilding, you should always have 1-3 veterans that have proven championship/playoff experience to further develop your players.
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All players are assets.  Either teams are looking for their star/stars or they are looking to build around their stars. 


Therefor, you want to have the players with the most value.




Celtics have one star.  They need at least one more for the future.

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All players are assets.  Either teams are looking for their star/stars or they are looking to build around their stars. 


Therefor, you want to have the players with the most value.




Celtics have one star.  They need at least one more for the future.

Who is the Celtics star, because apparently at CB there isn't a single one.
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lets say celtics rebuilding in mode
would you take trade or released all your veterans
and convert your roster to all young players

how do you construct your roster, be a team like cleveland?

or acquire experienced players and become like knicks team?

For rebuilding, you should always have 1-3 veterans that have proven championship/playoff experience to further develop your players.

so are you saying if cleveland got pierce as sf and kg as pf, a winning team?
kg on nuggets as pf?
kg on clippers as center?
pierce on detroit as SF?
kg on houston as pf and hasik on center? pierce as sf w/ parson backing up?

or get lucky on drafts like okc, but also the same, they got fisher and perkins to mentor them, perkins and fisher both got ring to show to the players to be motivated to win

let say
irving/lin
waiters/harden
pierce/pierce
kg/kg
varejao/hasik

winning team?

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lets say celtics rebuilding in mode
would you take trade or released all your veterans
and convert your roster to all young players

how do you construct your roster, be a team like cleveland?

or acquire experienced players and become like knicks team?

For rebuilding, you should always have 1-3 veterans that have proven championship/playoff experience to further develop your players.

so are you saying if cleveland got pierce as sf and kg as pf, a winning team?
kg on nuggets as pf?
kg on clippers as center?
pierce on detroit as SF?
kg on houston as pf and hasik on center? pierce as sf w/ parson backing up?

or get lucky on drafts like okc, but also the same, they got fisher and perkins to mentor them, perkins and fisher both got ring to show to the players to be motivated to win

let say
irving/lin
waiters/harden
pierce/pierce
kg/kg
varejao/hasik

winning team?

What kind of team is that... That makes completely no sense..

How can Pierce/KG fill up those spots? Why would you make Asik a back up big, when hes more healthier, and has grabbed more rebounds?
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Re: Rebuilding Mode: Veterans Or Young Players
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 03:34:27 PM »

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Expiring veterans, 2-3 year long young players who can develop some value.

Use them in trades to get good picks/better trade assets or ultimately, building blocks.

It's not rocket science, but it's also not easy because every team is trying to get the same.


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lets say celtics rebuilding in mode
would you take trade or released all your veterans
and convert your roster to all young players

how do you construct your roster, be a team like cleveland?

or acquire experienced players and become like knicks team?

For rebuilding, you should always have 1-3 veterans that have proven championship/playoff experience to further develop your players.

so are you saying if cleveland got pierce as sf and kg as pf, a winning team?
kg on nuggets as pf?
kg on clippers as center?
pierce on detroit as SF?
kg on houston as pf and hasik on center? pierce as sf w/ parson backing up?

or get lucky on drafts like okc, but also the same, they got fisher and perkins to mentor them, perkins and fisher both got ring to show to the players to be motivated to win
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 10:39:18 AM by krook »

Re: Rebuilding Mode: Veterans Or Young Players
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 10:39:30 AM »

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1 veteran is enough to take you team to playoffs?

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All players are assets.  Either teams are looking for their star/stars or they are looking to build around their stars. 


Therefor, you want to have the players with the most value.




Celtics have one star.  They need at least one more for the future.

Right.  And every move needs to be done in a vaccuum.  You need to ask what each particular move does for you team now and in a future.  Its not as simple as replace old players with young players.  Its about building assets and flexibility, and trying to accumulate talent, any way that you can find.

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All players are assets.  Either teams are looking for their star/stars or they are looking to build around their stars. 


Therefor, you want to have the players with the most value.




Celtics have one star.  They need at least one more for the future.

Right.  And every move needs to be done in a vaccuum.  You need to ask what each particular move does for you team now and in a future.  Its not as simple as replace old players with young players.  Its about building assets and flexibility, and trying to accumulate talent, any way that you can find.
This here. especially the salary flexibility. To properly rebuild, I am of the opinion you have to have cap flexibility and young assets. Green, Sully, Bradley, Rondo and the next two 1st round picks are nice young assets. Now you have to create the cap flexibility. Once that is done, the rebuild can take place and possibly happen fairly quickly.

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All players are assets.  Either teams are looking for their star/stars or they are looking to build around their stars. 


Therefor, you want to have the players with the most value.




Celtics have one star.  They need at least one more for the future.

Right.  And every move needs to be done in a vaccuum.  You need to ask what each particular move does for you team now and in a future.  Its not as simple as replace old players with young players.  Its about building assets and flexibility, and trying to accumulate talent, any way that you can find.
This here. especially the salary flexibility. To properly rebuild, I am of the opinion you have to have cap flexibility and young assets. Green, Sully, Bradley, Rondo and the next two 1st round picks are nice young assets. Now you have to create the cap flexibility. Once that is done, the rebuild can take place and possibly happen fairly quickly.

The thing is though...Pierce and KG represent cap flexibility.  They are large, but very movable contracts.  And those are valuable.  So, that value does need to be taken into consideration when you are deciding what to do with them this summer.

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All players are assets.  Either teams are looking for their star/stars or they are looking to build around their stars. 


Therefor, you want to have the players with the most value.




Celtics have one star.  They need at least one more for the future.

Right.  And every move needs to be done in a vaccuum.  You need to ask what each particular move does for you team now and in a future.  Its not as simple as replace old players with young players.  Its about building assets and flexibility, and trying to accumulate talent, any way that you can find.
This here. especially the salary flexibility. To properly rebuild, I am of the opinion you have to have cap flexibility and young assets. Green, Sully, Bradley, Rondo and the next two 1st round picks are nice young assets. Now you have to create the cap flexibility. Once that is done, the rebuild can take place and possibly happen fairly quickly.

The thing is though...Pierce and KG represent cap flexibility.  They are large, but very movable contracts.  And those are valuable.  So, that value does need to be taken into consideration when you are deciding what to do with them this summer.
Oh I agree with that. Actually the Bass, Lee, Terry contracts are really the only liabilities this team has towards rebuilding. The Pierce and Garnett contracts are extremely valuable. But the best flexibility the C's will have is if they jettison the liabilities for expiring contracts helping to create better flexibility.

This is one of the reasons I say keep Pierce and KG, trade a chip(Green or Bradley) with some of the Bass/Terry/Lee contracts and get some expiring contracts. Next year is a throw away year. They aren't going to win it but it will be a great year for unloading bad contracts that cause problems with the future flexibility.

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All players are assets.  Either teams are looking for their star/stars or they are looking to build around their stars. 


Therefor, you want to have the players with the most value.




Celtics have one star.  They need at least one more for the future.

Right.  And every move needs to be done in a vaccuum.  You need to ask what each particular move does for you team now and in a future.  Its not as simple as replace old players with young players.  Its about building assets and flexibility, and trying to accumulate talent, any way that you can find.
This here. especially the salary flexibility. To properly rebuild, I am of the opinion you have to have cap flexibility and young assets. Green, Sully, Bradley, Rondo and the next two 1st round picks are nice young assets. Now you have to create the cap flexibility. Once that is done, the rebuild can take place and possibly happen fairly quickly.

The thing is though...Pierce and KG represent cap flexibility.  They are large, but very movable contracts.  And those are valuable.  So, that value does need to be taken into consideration when you are deciding what to do with them this summer.
Oh I agree with that. Actually the Bass, Lee, Terry contracts are really the only liabilities this team has towards rebuilding. The Pierce and Garnett contracts are extremely valuable. But the best flexibility the C's will have is if they jettison the liabilities for expiring contracts helping to create better flexibility.

This is one of the reasons I say keep Pierce and KG, trade a chip(Green or Bradley) with some of the Bass/Terry/Lee contracts and get some expiring contracts. Next year is a throw away year. They aren't going to win it but it will be a great year for unloading bad contracts that cause problems with the future flexibility.

i love lee though, i got nothing in mind that could replace lee and agree on you if all terry bass green lee stays until 2014 we are still at hard cap