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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2012, 10:47:15 AM »

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Perkins will become invaluable if the deal goes through.  OKC will be pleased they have him.  Foresight on Presti's behalf, maybe?

Duh. I talked to that fool two years ago and he knew dwight would be a laker just like Shaquille. Didn't want to believe him. This is trash. La gets the weakest trades. This is worse then the gasol trade. There is no Marc gasol in this deal.

???

Bynum is better than Marc Gasol.

Lol you're right. I was overreacting and disappointed la got better.

But I really meant from the other teams standpoint. At least Memphis got a player in return for moving pau. Orlando doesn't get anything like that for moving Howard.

So yes la gave something up but why were they even able to bc Orlando gets nothing that even warrants doing this deal.


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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2012, 11:00:29 AM »

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Because the fakers don't matter until the finals! I'm not worried even if we meet them there! I think we are going to be the team no one wants to see!

Omg finally, TP. I'm far more worried about miami than the lakers. The lakers won't even become relevant until both the celtics and lakers meet in the finals and even if that happens i say bring it on. I still think OKC is a better team than the lakers.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2012, 11:43:04 AM »

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Perkins will become invaluable if the deal goes through.  OKC will be pleased they have him.  Foresight on Presti's behalf, maybe?

Duh. I talked to that fool two years ago and he knew dwight would be a laker just like Shaquille. Didn't want to believe him. This is trash. La gets the weakest trades. This is worse then the gasol trade. There is no Marc gasol in this deal.

???

Bynum is better than Marc Gasol.

Lol you're right. I was overreacting and disappointed la got better.

But I really meant from the other teams standpoint. At least Memphis got a player in return for moving pau. Orlando doesn't get anything like that for moving Howard.

So yes la gave something up but why were they even able to bc Orlando gets nothing that even warrants doing this deal.

Yeah, I don't get what was Orlando's motivation in this deal. They give away the best player, and don't land the second or third best one moved. They get a couple of pretty bad contracts and some mediocre picks/prospects. They don't even get rid of too many of their awful contracts.

They could have positioned themselves better with Houston, yet they send Dwight to LA anyway.

After all of this, for what seems like years now, he doesn't get to go to his preferred destination (Brooklyn). Instead, he has to go to his second choice. Orlando showed him.
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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2012, 12:13:20 PM »

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Yep, Sorry but nobody is beating the Lakers. Bryant, Howard, Gasol, Nash, Jamison, Artest. Victory for David Stern. I give the Celtics a chance but they'll need to pick up a real center besides KG and not named Jason Collins.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2012, 12:13:58 PM »

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Yep, Sorry but nobody is beating the Lakers. Bryant, Howard, Gasol, Nash, Jamison, Artest. Victory for David Stern. I give the Celtics a chance but they'll need to pick up a real center besides KG and not named Jason Collins.

How is it a victory for Stern?  He is a Knicks fan.  I get the feeling the Stern is the fan of any non-celtics fan that fits with the conspiracy theory of that day.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2012, 12:15:04 PM »

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Yep, Sorry but nobody is beating the Lakers. Bryant, Howard, Gasol, Nash, Jamison, Artest. Victory for David Stern. I give the Celtics a chance but they'll need to pick up a real center besides KG and not named Jason Collins.

We can beat the Lakers. Rondo will run all over Nash and make a fool off of Howard.

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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2012, 12:17:56 PM »

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From Orlando's point of view, looks like they traded one dollar for 100 pennies.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2012, 12:21:23 PM »

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Why bother? Because things just got more interesting and more fun.  I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, but the loser mentality that so often seems to accompany the modern American sports fan bums me out so much.

Did we just move down a peg on the favorites list?  Probably.  Are we still a contending team? I think so.  Personally, I'm hoping we get the Heat in the ECF and then the Lakers in the finals.  Our chances at winning it all may not be great, but they are better than at least 25 other teams in the league.  I'll take that and gladly watch our guys go to battle in a  effort to make it 18. 

It's a competition.  So often fans seem to hope that everybody else will just clear the decks and hand us a title.  What would be the fun in that?

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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2012, 12:28:50 PM »

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Lakers aren't any kind of unstoppable. Our bench destroys theirs, Nash is a defensive liability, Howard isn't the offensive force that Bynum was. Etc.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2012, 01:39:29 PM »

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Is Dwight really THAT much better than Bynum that overnight they went from being a contender to being the consensus team-to-beat?  I think not.  The Miami Heat still have the best roster in the NBA, and I still think the Celtics have a great shot at beating them. 

Dwight does make the Lakers a much better defensive team, and that scares me, but the Sixers might have gotten the best deal in this whole mess.  The loss of Iggy will end up being a positive because it will allow Evan Turner and Thad Young to get the minutes they need and, needless to say, getting Bynum will transform their offense.

Man, I cannot wait for the season to begin.  Buck up y'all, cause this is gonna be the best NBA season in over a decade.  Just look at all the contenders...

Heat, Lakers, Thunder
Celtics, Spurs, Pacers, Clippers
Grizzlies, Sixers, Knicks, Nuggets, Nets, Warriors (if healthy)

13 teams with a shot at competing for the title.  I'm not saying I think those teams will beat Miami or LA (or even the C's), but if I'm a fan of any of those teams I've got to be very excited about my team going into the season.

So who cares who starts at C for some team in LA?  I certainly do not.
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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2012, 02:24:14 PM »

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Yep, Sorry but nobody is beating the Lakers. Bryant, Howard, Gasol, Nash, Jamison, Artest. Victory for David Stern. I give the Celtics a chance but they'll need to pick up a real center besides KG and not named Jason Collins.

We can beat the Lakers. Rondo will run all over Nash and make a fool off of Howard.

They're still playing 4-on-5 defensively.  Los Nash will have some of his defensive disregard covered for by Howard....But when Howard isn't on the court they'll look like the Phoenix Suns defensively.

But I still predict that'll get old to the people actually playing defense when the Lakers get on a losing streak.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2012, 05:38:33 PM »

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Philly with the addition of Bynum there?

Bynum is a good player, but he's trash when it comes to teammates , he swear at them to get the ball, he'll hold the ball in the paint when he doesn't have an easy way to score, also he gets frustrated wayyyy to easily, he'll tear that locker room up in seconds and will tear the chemistry apart....... 


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Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2012, 07:35:36 PM »

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Was avoiding CBlog all day. Now my fears have been confirmed.

Back to the Drawing Board Danny.
He built this roster to go against the Heat.
Now is has to face the Sixers with Bynum and the lakers.

Time to get a real starting Center.

unfortunately it may cost us some depth. This trade reminds me a lot of the KG trade. Will be a while before the Magic dig themselves out of this one.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2012, 08:06:45 PM »

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While Howard is better than Bynum I'm not sure he's that much better that he makes the Lakers suddenly better than OKC.  Just look at the matchups

Westbrook/Nash - I think Westbrook OWNS Nash at this point
Kobe/Harden - Not as far off as it used to be, one on his way down, the other on the way up, might be a wash come springtime
Durant/Metta World Elbows - Not even close.  MVP vs has been
Gasol/Ibaka - Gasol is clearly better but Ibaka did a great job neutralizing him in the playoffs last year.  Gasol can't just out "big" him like he does against most PFs
Howard/Perk - We all know the history here.  No doubling of Howard necessary with Perk on him, which means less easy shots for Kobe, Nash and Artest.

The main thing here is Durant is still the best player here and can still dominate at any point.  I don't see the Lakers having any favorable matchups that one of their guys can absolutely own the other team.

Re: Why Bother?
« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2012, 08:49:26 PM »

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Boston needs to figure out a way to get Bynum from Philly.

I'd love to have Bynum on the C's.  The only issue that might pop up is maturity.  Doc and the vets don't tolerate that kind of stuff.


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Man, I'd HATE to have that jerk. The Celtics have always had class and Bynum has NONE! He's a thug getting paid to play basketball. It's almost shameful.

But, hands down, he will make games against the 6ers more interesting (and scary) for sure. I'd rather take our chances rooting against THAT GUY, then to have him on our roster.

Sometimes this RING ONLY is a successful season mentality gets a little bumming at times. For instance, even though we fell a game short of the Finals, I thought we overachieved.

I still like our chances and I'm confident we're still in the top 2 in the East and top 4 or 5 in the League.

The season is a strange thing. 1 injury takes a team out (Chicago anyone?). A team doesn't gel right away and they fall too. I think we have as much of a chance as anybody. Barring injuries (as usual with us), we could be there fighting for a title.

The Celtics will show up once again when all is said and done.

Why bother????

Cause I'm a Celtic!  ;D
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