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Re: State of the Celitc's Big Rotation
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2012, 07:36:33 PM »

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If Jason Collins gets major minutes for the team the Celtics are in big trouble.

Re: State of the Celitc's Big Rotation
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2012, 07:52:25 PM »

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Without a minute of NBA experience, it is highly speculative to say that Sully or Melo are starting caliber players now or any time this season.  Just put that thought away please.

Do you consider that to be a blanket statement that covers every player without a minute of NBA experience?
No of course not.  Why do people get up in a lather about this?  If either were lottery picks (for example) then I would have not made the statement.  The question really is why anyone would think either of them ARE regular rotation material?  We have no evidence whatsoever.

If you have enough evidence to come up with an opinion as to whether or not they were good draft picks, then there is enough evidence to come up with a tentative guess about whether or not they are regular rotation material.
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Re: State of the Celitc's Big Rotation
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2012, 08:26:08 PM »

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Without a minute of NBA experience, it is highly speculative to say that Sully or Melo are starting caliber players now or any time this season.  Just put that thought away please.

Do you consider that to be a blanket statement that covers every player without a minute of NBA experience?
No of course not.  Why do people get up in a lather about this?  If either were lottery picks (for example) then I would have not made the statement.  The question really is why anyone would think either of them ARE regular rotation material?  We have no evidence whatsoever.

If you have enough evidence to come up with an opinion as to whether or not they were good draft picks, then there is enough evidence to come up with a tentative guess about whether or not they are regular rotation material.
Good not great, not lottery, not franchise. So like I said, not regular rotation by that standard.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong.

Re: State of the Celtics' Big Rotation
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2012, 08:58:34 PM »

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Sullinger was ranked top 6-10 before the NBA Combine.

Think of Sullinger as a top 10 pick who fell because of back concerns and over-analysis.

Oh, and he was a projected top 3 pick had he declared for the 2011 Draft.

Jeeze.

Clear-cut lottery talent, projected as one of the most NBA ready big men as a 20 year old.

Those guys sometimes start, even if the coach knows they might get hurt at some point in the future.



Re: State of the Celitc's Big Rotation
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2012, 09:59:45 PM »

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Without a minute of NBA experience, it is highly speculative to say that Sully or Melo are starting caliber players now or any time this season.  Just put that thought away please.

Do you consider that to be a blanket statement that covers every player without a minute of NBA experience?
No of course not.  Why do people get up in a lather about this?  If either were lottery picks (for example) then I would have not made the statement.  The question really is why anyone would think either of them ARE regular rotation material?  We have no evidence whatsoever.

If you have enough evidence to come up with an opinion as to whether or not they were good draft picks, then there is enough evidence to come up with a tentative guess about whether or not they are regular rotation material.
Good not great, not lottery, not franchise. So like I said, not regular rotation by that standard.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong.

So, it's not possible to deem a lottery pick a likely bust before he plays a game or to reasonably speculate that a team may have gotten a steal late in the draft?
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