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As far as the BAE is concerned, I think Danny will ultimately save it for a few reasons.

First, is for trades.  Even though I highly doubt Danny has any plans to make a trade at the moment, things change.  If an opportunity comes along to make a deal that improves the team, having the extra wiggle room under the apron/hard cap would be very helpful in allowing us to take on additional salary in such a trade.

Second, would be to save for a later buyout signing.  The BAE pro-rates differently than the Vet Min.  The Vet Min pro-rates beginning on the 1st day of the season.  The BAE doesn't start pro-rating until Jan 10.  Coupled with the fact the BAE is already more to begin with, there are cetain scenarios where the pro-rated BAE could be worth over $1m more than the Vet Min.

Third, and probably least likely, would be saving it for next season.  The reason I say it 's less likely is, use of the BAE would put us under the same apron/hard cap scenario next year.  Trying to fit that, plus raises for our players already under contract, and possibly using the tax-payer MLE, would be extremely difficult.  It is an option though.

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As far as the BAE is concerned, I think Danny will ultimately save it for a few reasons.

First, is for trades.  Even though I highly doubt Danny has any plans to make a trade at the moment, things change.  If an opportunity comes along to make a deal that improves the team, having the extra wiggle room under the apron/hard cap would be very helpful in allowing us to take on additional salary in such a trade.

Second, would be to save for a later buyout signing.  The BAE pro-rates differently than the Vet Min.  The Vet Min pro-rates beginning on the 1st day of the season.  The BAE doesn't start pro-rating until Jan 10.  Coupled with the fact the BAE is already more to begin with, there are cetain scenarios where the pro-rated BAE could be worth over $1m more than the Vet Min.

Third, and probably least likely, would be saving it for next season.  The reason I say it 's less likely is, use of the BAE would put us under the same apron/hard cap scenario next year.  Trying to fit that, plus raises for our players already under contract, and possibly using the tax-payer MLE, would be extremely difficult.  It is an option though.

I think reason 3 is the most likely, in fact.  Next year's cap/tax/apron levels are likely going to be significantly higher than this year's, which were held lower due to the lockout/absence of a full season.  BRI for 2013-2014 will probably be at or near what they projected into the CBA, which would bump the luxury tax and apron levels to $79.9 and $83.9 million dollars, respectively.  At numbers that high, the Celtics could use the big MLE and the BAE, and still fit in under the luxury tax line, much less the apron line.  Even if the numbers are 5% lower (which would be a big miss by the NBA's revenue projectors for only two years out) there should still be room for both.

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sign Dooling for the vet min and save the BAE in case a big man gets bought out around February .

i find it a little shocking how folks here are determined to close their eyes to anyone but dooling with a vet min deal. why? because he keeps rondo's head from exploding 2 nights a week? wait, maybe that's a good reason to sign him.

my point: wouldn't a roster spot be better used on an area of actual weakness? like size depth? or -- ya know -- rebounding?

exactly what big man are you thinking of? Birdman is the only one that would make sense, but he has a child **** case hanging over his head. That's why I say we should wait until the buyout period around February where someone more reliable will become available.

That's what we save the BAE for. As I mentioned in my OP, I'm talking about vet min deals, and I named some players I'd try. There are others on the list.

There are minutes to be had at C or for situational defenders on this team for a guy looking for a last run.

why save it, its bi-annual

bi-annual, meaning once every two years. here are the details from Larry Coon:

BI-ANNUAL EXCEPTION -- This exception is available only to teams that are below the "apron" (i.e., not paying luxury tax, or less than $4 million above the tax line). This determination is made after the exception is used, so a team below the apron cannot use this exception if doing so takes them above the apron. It cannot be used if the team has already used the Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception or the Room Mid-Level exception. It allows a team to sign any free agent, starting at up to the following amounts:

Season   First-year salary
2011-12   $1.900 million
2012-13   $1.957 million
2013-14   $2.016 million
2014-15   $2.077 million
2015-16   $2.139 million
2016-17   $2.203 million
2017-18   $2.269 million
2018-19   $2.337 million
2019-20   $2.407 million
2020-21   $2.479 million

This exception may not be used two years in a row (and if this exception was used under the previous CBA in 2010-11, it may not be used in 2011-12). It may be split and given to more than one player, and can be used to sign players for up to two years, with raises limited to 4.5%. Also see question number 26 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

A team that uses its Bi-Annual exception cannot go above the apron for the remainder of that season. In other words, once a team uses its Bi-Annual exception, the apron effectively becomes a hard cap for the remainder of that season4. This eliminates any potential loophole where a team could first use its Bi-Annual exception and subsequently add salary to go above the apron, when doing so in the opposite order (adding salary first, and then using the exception) would be illegal.

A different team salary definition is used for determining whether a team is above or below the apron. See question number 14 for details. In addition, this exception begins to pro-rate downward daily starting on January 10 each season (see question numbers 26 and 28), and expires following the last day of the regular season.