Rondo climbs the MVP ladder

[soap07]

he's having a hell of a season.  I think I could probably average 10 assists with this team, though.
 

  The funny thing is, you probably do think that.

Hey I didn't say I could average 12.  I said I could average 10.  Big difference.  How hard can it be?... bring the ball up, and toss it to one of my three hall of fame teammates, Brandon Bass or a streaking Avery Bradley.  Piece of cake.

I'm not serious, btw.  Rondo has been incredible this year.  Poor man's Deron Williams for sure.

  Rondo does everything better than Williams other than score. The fact that you think that all Rondo does is "Just bring the ball up, wait for them to do all the work setting screens, running around picks, etc... and then just pass it off" explains why you don't see it.

Deron is every bit the ballhandler/passer that Rondo is.

[BballTim]

he's having a hell of a season.  I think I could probably average 10 assists with this team, though.
 

  The funny thing is, you probably do think that.

Hey I didn't say I could average 12.  I said I could average 10.  Big difference.  How hard can it be?... bring the ball up, and toss it to one of my three hall of fame teammates, Brandon Bass or a streaking Avery Bradley.  Piece of cake.

I'm not serious, btw.  Rondo has been incredible this year.  Poor man's Deron Williams for sure.

  Rondo does everything better than Williams other than score. The fact that you think that all Rondo does is "Just bring the ball up, wait for them to do all the work setting screens, running around picks, etc... and then just pass it off" explains why you don't see it.

Deron is every bit the ballhandler/passer that Rondo is.

  Agree to disagree, I suppose.

[ianboyextreme]

he's having a hell of a season.  I think I could probably average 10 assists with this team, though.
 

  The funny thing is, you probably do think that.

Hey I didn't say I could average 12.  I said I could average 10.  Big difference.  How hard can it be?... bring the ball up, and toss it to one of my three hall of fame teammates, Brandon Bass or a streaking Avery Bradley.  Piece of cake.

I'm not serious, btw.  Rondo has been incredible this year.  Poor man's Deron Williams for sure.

In the words of another celticsblogger, Deron Williams doesnt deserve to carry Rondo's jock strap.

[twinbree]

Good for Rajon. He continues to impress me with his play this season. I'd say he's hThe MVP is still a very scoring influenced award and it's great to see someone as unique as him up there. His elite skills are all as important to winning games as scoring 20+ a night.

[LarBrd33]

Deron Williams is a little baby who won't win anything EVER. no rings

  Rondo does everything better than Williams other than score.

In the words of another celticsblogger, Deron Williams doesnt deserve to carry Rondo's jock strap.

Rondo is also mentally tougher.

LOVE IT!  You guys are a riot!  GO CELTICS!

[BballTim]

Deron Williams is a little baby who won't win anything EVER. no rings

  Rondo does everything better than Williams other than score.

In the words of another celticsblogger, Deron Williams doesnt deserve to carry Rondo's jock strap.

Rondo is also mentally tougher.

LOVE IT!  You guys are a riot!  GO CELTICS!

  One would assume that's a montage of people who agree with your opinions...

[LarBrd33]

Bottom line... as much as I, BBallTim and the rest of you LOVE Rondo... he's not even the MVP of this team.  That's Kevin Garnett.  With Pierce a distant second.  Either one of those guys go out, we're sunk... if Rondo goes out, we'll manage.  

I do think it's ironic that people would call out Deron Williams for his character given that it's been well established in the media and verified by Celtic players and coaches that Rondo has a wee bit of a attitude as well.  I know the Celtics have done an excellent job keeping it in-house for the most part, but they were pretty anxious to trade him for Chris Paul and several sources reported they offered him for Steph Curry in one trade and Pau Gasol in another.  Interesting considering he has been playing for a great team, with great hall-of-fame talent surround him... with a coach that everyone seems to love.  And yet the attitude issues are still there.  Wonder what he'd do on a bad team with a bad coach.  Now, certainly some of those stories might be inaccurate, but the other knock on Rondo has been his ability to mail in certain games... something Rondo himself verified by saying his biggest issue was his own "consistency".  He's most definitely done a good job staying wired in lately (the dangling carrot of this assist streak might be helping)...and I praise him for his ability to play his role right now.  He's been nothing short of phenomenal.  It's just funny and ironic that I'm seeing people calling Deron a "baby" and suggesting that Rondo is "mentally tougher" on the basis of jack squat.  Rondo went practically catatonic for a month after the Perkins trade.  Come on, guys... if we're going to come up with Anti-Deron Williams hyperbole let's at least come up with stuff that doesn't just project our own insecurities about Rondo.

And I like that pointing out that Deron Williams averaged 19 and 11 for 3 straight years... is averaging 21 and 9 on a terrible team now and shows all the signs of being an elite playmaker/passer/ballhandler AND scorer quantifies as "opinion" ... Yeah it's cool, bros... Deron stinks, because Rondo won a ring as the 4th best player in 08.  Cool, bros.

[KCattheStripe]

Bottom line... as much as I, BBallTim and the rest of you LOVE Rondo... he's not even the MVP of this team.  That's Kevin Garnett.  With Pierce a distant second.  Either one of those guys go out, we're sunk... if Rondo goes out, we'll manage.  

I do think it's ironic that people would call out Deron Williams for his character given that it's been well established in the media and verified by Celtic players and coaches that Rondo has a wee bit of a attitude as well.  I know the Celtics have done an excellent job keeping it in-house for the most part, but they were pretty anxious to trade him for Chris Paul and several sources reported they offered him for Steph Curry in one trade and Pau Gasol in another.  Interesting considering he has been playing for a great team, with great hall-of-fame talent surround him... with a coach that everyone seems to love.  And yet the attitude issues are still there.  Wonder what he'd do on a bad team with a bad coach.  Now, certainly some of those stories might be inaccurate, but the other knock on Rondo has been his ability to mail in certain games... something Rondo himself verified by saying his biggest issue was his own "consistency".  He's most definitely done a good job staying wired in lately (the dangling carrot of this assist streak might be helping)...and I praise him for his ability to play his role right now.  He's been nothing short of phenomenal.  It's just funny and ironic that I'm seeing people calling Deron a "baby" and suggesting that Rondo is "mentally tougher" on the basis of jack squat.  Rondo went practically catatonic for a month after the Perkins trade.  Come on, guys... if we're going to come up with Anti-Deron Williams hyperbole let's at least come up with stuff that doesn't just project our own insecurities about Rondo.

And I like that pointing out that Deron Williams averaged 19 and 11 for 3 straight years... is averaging 21 and 9 on a terrible team now and shows all the signs of being an elite playmaker/passer/ballhandler AND scorer quantifies as "opinion" ... Yeah it's cool, bros... Deron stinks, because Rondo won a ring as the 4th best player in 08.  Cool, bros.

You still haven't justified why any team should pay max money for a PG when it's the least important position to have an elite player at.

[KCattheStripe]

List of starting PGs on Championship teams in the past 20 years:

John paxson
Kenny Smith
Steve Kerr
Avery Johnson
AC Green
Lindsay Hunter
Young TP
Prime Chauncey
Young TP
Jason Williams
Prime TP
Young Rondo
Derek Fisher
Over The Hill Jason Kidd

Only twice in 20 years has a top 5 PG been on the championship team.

2 Guards
Jordan
Vernon Maxwell
Jordan
Mario Ellie
Kobe
Stephen Jackson
Rip Hamilton
Manu
DWade
Manu
Ray Allen
Kobe
Deshawn Stevenson ( But Really Jason Terry)

15 times there was a top 5 SG on Championship teams.

SFs:

Pippen
Horry
Drexler
Pippen
Sean Elliot
Ron Harper
Rick Fox
Malik Rose
Tayshaun Prince
James Posey ( I forgot Toine came off the bench)
Bruce Bowen
Captain
Ariza
Metta World Peace
Shawn marion

9 Times a championship team had a top 5 SF.

PF:

Horace Grant
Otis Thorpe
Dennis Rodman
Duncan
Glen Rice ( I forgot the 00 Lakers ran some weird lineups.)
Horace Grant
Samaki Walker
Duncan
Sheed
Rasho Nesterovic ( Post Robinson i count Duncan as a Center)
Haslem
Oberto
KG
Gasol
Dirk

9 times a championship team had a top 5 PF

Centers
Bill Cartwright
Hakeem
Luc Longley
Robinson
Shaq
Robinson
Ben Wallace
Duncan
Shaq
Duncan
Perk
Bynum
Chandler

13 times a championship team had a top 5 Center.

[Celtics18]

Bottom line... as much as I, BBallTim and the rest of you LOVE Rondo... he's not even the MVP of this team.  That's Kevin Garnett.  With Pierce a distant second.  Either one of those guys go out, we're sunk... if Rondo goes out, we'll manage.  

I do think it's ironic that people would call out Deron Williams for his character given that it's been well established in the media and verified by Celtic players and coaches that Rondo has a wee bit of a attitude as well.  I know the Celtics have done an excellent job keeping it in-house for the most part, but they were pretty anxious to trade him for Chris Paul and several sources reported they offered him for Steph Curry in one trade and Pau Gasol in another.  Interesting considering he has been playing for a great team, with great hall-of-fame talent surround him... with a coach that everyone seems to love.  And yet the attitude issues are still there.  Wonder what he'd do on a bad team with a bad coach.  Now, certainly some of those stories might be inaccurate, but the other knock on Rondo has been his ability to mail in certain games... something Rondo himself verified by saying his biggest issue was his own "consistency".  He's most definitely done a good job staying wired in lately (the dangling carrot of this assist streak might be helping)...and I praise him for his ability to play his role right now.  He's been nothing short of phenomenal.  It's just funny and ironic that I'm seeing people calling Deron a "baby" and suggesting that Rondo is "mentally tougher" on the basis of jack squat.  Rondo went practically catatonic for a month after the Perkins trade.  Come on, guys... if we're going to come up with Anti-Deron Williams hyperbole let's at least come up with stuff that doesn't just project our own insecurities about Rondo.

And I like that pointing out that Deron Williams averaged 19 and 11 for 3 straight years... is averaging 21 and 9 on a terrible team now and shows all the signs of being an elite playmaker/passer/ballhandler AND scorer quantifies as "opinion" ... Yeah it's cool, bros... Deron stinks, because Rondo won a ring as the 4th best player in 08.  Cool, bros.

You are the one who turned this into a Deron Williams thread.  The rest of us where just appreciating that our point guard is getting MVP consideration from the guy who makes that forum on NBA. COM.

That's all.  I'm thrilled for you that you found a way to come in and try to blow up our positive vibe, though. 

[KCattheStripe]

Where are my sarcastic claps?