Big Three Era a Failure?

[aporel#18]

It is a failure.
Before we got KG and Ray - our championships were 16. Lakers 14.
2012 and our banners are now 17. Lakers 16.

I am not blaming KG and Ray here. I guess more on Ainge. 2008 was our best team roster. It got us a championship. He should have had hold on to that solid roster or got us better and better, but the way things went, we got weaker and weaker together with the age of the veterans.

The Celtics, and the whole organization is failing and should open their eyes and act and do something quick. Because sooner or later, the Lakers will overtake us. And I would die to see that happen!

Was the Bird-McHale-Parish era a failure?

Also, but for Ainge, the championship count would currently be 17 Lakers - 16 Celtics.

That could be true, but fact is Ainge put together the new Big 3.

So, if not for Stern and his boys, the championship count would currently be
18 Boston Celtics - (10 Los Angeles + 5 Minnesota) Lakers

Refs were not the only reason for that terrible loss in 2010, but if the refs had done a consistent job in that game 7, the Celtics would've win #18. No doubt.

[Eja117]

sarcasm alert..sorry...this just made me a tad bit o upset....venting coming.

btw...do any of you guys think maybe the Theo Epstein Era was a failure? I mean geez. Drinking in the clubhouse on off days? I mean let's try to remember the most recent event during an era and use that to define it.  And I was starting to think maybe the Belichik/Brady era is a failure too. 

So let's define failure here....any era that does not win permanently. The America's Cup...they only won like 200 times in a row. Failure.

Guys that know me better around here....did I used to write stuff like this thread? Do I still? Maybe I owe lots of profuse apologies.

And to the OP....I disagree heartily...but I will defend to the death your right to say it.  Well maybe not to the death. Well maybe not at all, but um...yeah.  Good to meet you

[dark_lord]

anyone who thinks it was a failure is out of touch.  in the 4/5 yrs since we got the big three we have won a title, one qtr from winning a second title, and if kg didnt hurt his knee the year after we won #17 we likely would have won another.

ask other fans in other markets if they would call that a failure. some people are so spoiled and out of touch that it is crazy!

[Eja117]

anyone who thinks it was a failure is out of touch.  in the 4/5 yrs since we got the big three we have won a title, one qtr from winning a second title, and if kg didnt hurt his knee the year after we won #17 we likely would have won another.

ask other fans in other markets if they would call that a failure. some people are so spoiled and out of touch that it is crazy!

I totally agree. As a Boston fan I have a birthright to great teams at all times, but there has to be an upper level of spoiled. I mean we are TitleTown and even we know it can be years between banners. You can pretty much always buy me off with a championship and the rest is gravy

[OttawaCeltic]

and if kg didnt hurt his knee the year after we won #17 we likely would have won another.

Big word : 'IF'. Did it happen? No. What does that mean? A failure.... sheesh, all us Celtic fans must be open-minded... not hard-headed like LA bandwagoners

[Bahku]

Two finals appearances and one championship a failure?

Not.

[dark_lord]

and if kg didnt hurt his knee the year after we won #17 we likely would have won another.

Big word : 'IF'. Did it happen? No. What does that mean? A failure.... sheesh, all us Celtic fans must be open-minded... not hard-headed like LA bandwagoners

obviously it is an "if", meaning a hypothetical.  But all things considered prior to the injury, we were the favorites to repeat. the big word wasnt "if" in my sentence, it was "likely", meaning it wasnt definitive.

it is not a failure by a long shot!  one title and two finals appearance in 4/5 yrs.  not to mention the year prior to #17, our record was 24-58....thats a failure

like i said in my first post....

anyone who thinks it was a failure is out of touch. ask other fans in other markets if they would call that a failure. some people are so spoiled and out of touch that it is crazy!

[thebat]

We are discussing this big 3 era and not the other Celtics era (which all won multiple titles)

I don't know how you measure success. Because IMHO, success here is winning a title. Anything less, it is what it is - a failure.

The big three were put together to aim at one thing - to get championship banners. That is the measure of success here.

From 2008 until now, the big 3 era just produced 1 title. Heck they even developed another superstar (Rondo) so that's Big 3 + 1, whilst the Lakers got Kobe plus 2 big sidekicks and yet they've produced 2 titles.

If you form an all NBA superstars to the Olympics and just got silver and not gold - you will call that a failure. Because gold would be the measure of success.

Again, the only measure of success here is how many times you will get the championship banner. Not the number of times you get to the finals or playoffs.

[jpk2000]

By Tom Haberstroh | ESPN Insider. Why am I not surprised an ESPN writer wrote this article. lol

Big Three Era a Failure? Clearly this guy doesn't know anything about the Celtics before KG and Ray showed up, and how bad the Celtics were before their arrival.

Tom, is young and doesn't know much. This is the same guy that attempted to compare Blake Griffin to KG? WFT!

[ACF]

Look at them, they're beautiful. Failure? Nah, I don't think so.

[guava_wrench]

Definitely a success. The only way it is a failure is if we didn't get a ring.

[Birdman]

If KG didnt hurt his knee the 2nd year and if Perkins didnt get hurt in Game 6 in year 3, the Celtics would probably have won 3 in a row!! And playing in May is always a success. Great ride and would do it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!