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what can we get for the "big 3"
« on: February 15, 2012, 10:28:03 PM »

Offline goCeltics

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i don't think we'll be able to get much, might as well just continue on and maybe buy them out (ray and kg) or sit them and tank towards seasons end.

also paul has a buy out on his last year, if they amenisty him does wyc have to pay him his 3rd year option value($16 mill), or his buyout value($5), can u buyout a player and then amenisty them? cos i can't imagine ownership wanting to fork out 11 million dollars just to create 5 million dollars of cap room
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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 10:43:16 PM »

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Bad contracts...
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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 12:41:07 AM »

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been thinking here a trade, just have to wait until march one

celtics in

al jefferson, harris, nocini, turner, bell, burks, $10 mill exception

celtics out

kg, pierce, allen, dooling, pietrus

sixers in

pierce, pietrus

sixer out

nocini, turner

jazz in

kg, allen, dooling

jazz out

jefferson, harris, bell, burks.
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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 01:38:49 AM »

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You can't get anything for KG.  Don't even try.  He makes too much money and nobody can match expiring contracts.

For Pierce, you could probably trade him to Indiana for a 1st rounder or Paul George... maybe.  They can swallow 14 mil in cap space so they are the most logical trade destination.

For Ray, you can either trade him to Utah or Chicago for a late 1st rounder.  Chicago can trade a couple expiring contracts to match salary.  Utah has a trade exception they can trade to match salary.

None of the deals take back salary... it's all about young players on rookie contracts and/or draft picks.

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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 03:23:13 AM »

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here's my four teamer

Boston

in

elton brand, al jefferson, harris, nocioni, gomes, turner, burkes, 2013 philly 1st rounder (top 15 protected), 2013 clipper 1st rounder. (top 5 protected)

out

kg, pierce, allen, o'neal, bass, dooling, pietrus

philly

in

kg, allen, pietrus

out

brand, nocioni, turner, 2013 1st rounder

jazz

in

mo williams, jermaine, bass, foye

out

jefferson, harris, burkes

clippers

in

pierce, dooling

out

mo williams, gomes, foye, 2013 1st rounder
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 02:05:02 PM »

Offline mqtcelticsfan

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Quote from: goCeltics on February 16, 2012, 03:23:13 AM
here's my four teamer

Boston

in

elton brand, al jefferson, harris, nocioni, gomes, turner, burkes, 2013 philly 1st rounder (top 15 protected), 2013 clipper 1st rounder. (top 5 protected)

out

kg, pierce, allen, o'neal, bass, dooling, pietrus

philly

in

kg, allen, pietrus

out

brand, nocioni, turner, 2013 1st rounder

jazz

in

mo williams, jermaine, bass, foye

out

jefferson, harris, burkes

clippers

in

pierce, dooling

out

mo williams, gomes, foye, 2013 1st rounder

I have no idea who says no first between Philly and Utah, because it will be a race to see who can decline first between them.
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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 02:21:05 PM »

Offline Marcus13

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Why do you think another team would want to take on all three of them?  KG is set to retire in another 40 games or so.  Ray is going to be a free agent, and Paul's contract is just going to get uglier and uglier.
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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 02:43:11 PM »

Offline KG_ended_Bias

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Those trades are bad for everyone including Boston. After the Big 3 is gone D.A. better get someone who can run with Rondo, not slow Bodies like Brand & Jefferson! And Turner best position is PG not 2 gaurd.
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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 03:34:10 PM »

Offline LooseCannon

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Quote from: Marcus13 on February 16, 2012, 02:21:05 PM
Why do you think another team would want to take on all three of them?  KG is set to retire in another 40 games or so.  Ray is going to be a free agent, and Paul's contract is just going to get uglier and uglier.

I don't think KG is set to retire after this season and Pierce's contract isn't so ugly when you consider that his last year is only partially guaranteed.  He'll actually have trade value before that final season for a team that wants to clear cap space or save on the luxury tax by trading salary for Pierce then waiving him.  A team right at the salary cap threshold can clear space to sign a $10 million free agent by doing so.
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Re: what can we get for the "big 3"
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 03:39:42 PM »

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Quote from: LarBrd33 on February 16, 2012, 01:38:49 AM
You can't get anything for KG.  Don't even try.  He makes too much money and nobody can match expiring contracts.

For Pierce, you could probably trade him to Indiana for a 1st rounder or Paul George... maybe.  They can swallow 14 mil in cap space so they are the most logical trade destination.

For Ray, you can either trade him to Utah or Chicago for a late 1st rounder.  Chicago can trade a couple expiring contracts to match salary.  Utah has a trade exception they can trade to match salary.

None of the deals take back salary... it's all about young players on rookie contracts and/or draft picks.


Utah has a big $10 million exception from Mehmet Okur so they might be the only possibility.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7oyp3t3
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 05:03:52 PM »

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Not as much as peeps here think they are worth.
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