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Re: Is Rondo not good enough for Cs ?
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 04:20:51 PM »

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Didn't we hear this same Cancer thing about Stephon Marbury & even Nate Robinson? C'mon now... Williams did not get Sloan a HOF coach fired or make him quit. Utah Organization felt his time had reached as coach after getting close, but failing all those years to win a championship. Deron is a better fit for this club, especially because pf his pick & pop or roll ability with a Brando Bass or K.G. Rondo's good but not for this team. we have never won a championship with Rondo being the finisher @ point and never will. I guarantee Moore gets subbed in for Rondo in the playoffs.

Do you mean that Moore would be subbed in for Rondo in the final possession of a critical game, or actually surpass Rondo in the rotation?

Re: Is Rondo not good enough for Cs ?
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2012, 04:46:54 PM »

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Is Rondo not good enough for Cs ?
Based on his current ability, he isn't -- at least not for the role that the Celtics are trying to cast him in starting next season. There is a number of people here who share this opinion, and it has little to do with what transpired last week.
  First of all, Rondo took on more of a scoring role earlier this year because most of his teammates had trouble putting the ball in the basket, which is something all of his detractors assured me that he was incapable of. Secondly, you have no idea of what type of roster we'll have next year or what role Rondo will be cast in. A number of people here share your opinion, not because they have any idea if it's correct or not but because it bolsters their arguments for trading Rondo.
Yeah, forgive me if Rondo's 15 points per game are not convincing me of his "scoring prowess". Sure, he got a handful of big scoring games, and we lost them all. The fact that the rest of the squad needed to start playing better before we started winning should tell you all you need to know about Rondo's ability to be a franchise player at this stage of his career.

  Sure, the same way Deron on the Nets or CP3 on the Hornets last year should tell you everything you need to know about their ability to be a franchise player at this stage of their careers. And I spent a good deal of the offseason reading that Chris Paul could carry a team with his scoring after he put up a hefty 0.8 points a game more than Rondo is now. Somewhat amusing IMO.


Cp3 has been the best player on the Hornets every season he's been there. He's lead them to a 60 win season with David West and a collection of role players. Last season he lead a terrible Hornets team to 46 wins in the west. IMO, he's more than proven he can carry a bad team. The question now is can he win(championship) with a good one.

Deron Williams has been the best player on every team he's been on. He's consistently lead the Jazz to the play-offs and immediately made the Nets better when he was first trade their last season. He's been having a bad season so far, probably just poor conditioning, but he's improving as the season has progressed. If you look at the wins and the losses he's clearly the difference maker for the Nets. The nets have had a pretty tough schedule they've only lost to one sub 500. team(Cavaliers) this season.

Re: Is Rondo not good enough for Cs ?
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2012, 05:13:23 PM »

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Is Rondo not good enough for Cs ?
Based on his current ability, he isn't -- at least not for the role that the Celtics are trying to cast him in starting next season. There is a number of people here who share this opinion, and it has little to do with what transpired last week.
  First of all, Rondo took on more of a scoring role earlier this year because most of his teammates had trouble putting the ball in the basket, which is something all of his detractors assured me that he was incapable of. Secondly, you have no idea of what type of roster we'll have next year or what role Rondo will be cast in. A number of people here share your opinion, not because they have any idea if it's correct or not but because it bolsters their arguments for trading Rondo.
Yeah, forgive me if Rondo's 15 points per game are not convincing me of his "scoring prowess". Sure, he got a handful of big scoring games, and we lost them all. The fact that the rest of the squad needed to start playing better before we started winning should tell you all you need to know about Rondo's ability to be a franchise player at this stage of his career.

  Sure, the same way Deron on the Nets or CP3 on the Hornets last year should tell you everything you need to know about their ability to be a franchise player at this stage of their careers. And I spent a good deal of the offseason reading that Chris Paul could carry a team with his scoring after he put up a hefty 0.8 points a game more than Rondo is now. Somewhat amusing IMO.


Cp3 has been the best player on the Hornets every season he's been there. He's lead them to a 60 win season with David West and a collection of role players. Last season he lead a terrible Hornets team to 46 wins in the west. IMO, he's more than proven he can carry a bad team. The question now is can he win(championship) with a good one.

Deron Williams has been the best player on every team he's been on. He's consistently lead the Jazz to the play-offs and immediately made the Nets better when he was first trade their last season. He's been having a bad season so far, probably just poor conditioning, but he's improving as the season has progressed. If you look at the wins and the losses he's clearly the difference maker for the Nets. The nets have had a pretty tough schedule they've only lost to one sub 500. team(Cavaliers) this season.

  The Nets lost 9 of 12 games Deron played in last season, which was worse than their overall winning percentage. How does that translate into "immediately made them better"?

Re: Is Rondo not good enough for Cs ?
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2012, 05:14:27 PM »

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He's not for some fans. It's sad, really. One would think after he nearly broke his arm in the playoffs last year and proceeded to play with one arm for the rest of the playoffs because he wanted to help this team win so badly, he would earn an ounce of respect. No. Nada. Zilch.

No matter what Rondo does, certain fans will never like him or appreciate him. They'd rather sit in their rooms next to a giant CP3 & D.Will posters, whispering over and over again to them  "if you just come to Boston, we'll take care of you. We can make you so happy."
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Re: Is Rondo not good enough for Cs ?
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2012, 05:50:07 PM »

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He's not for some fans. It's sad, really. One would think after he nearly broke his arm in the playoffs last year and proceeded to play with one arm for the rest of the playoffs because he wanted to help this team win so badly, he would earn an ounce of respect. No. Nada. Zilch.

Yeah, this is not at all an exaggeration and a straw man's argument.