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Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 10:10:15 AM »

Offline dark_lord

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so we downgrade at pg and upgrade a little at center, but with a role playing center.  not to mention it doesnt help us presently or moving forward. if we trade rondo it has to be for someone who can help now as well as the future.

i have no idea why there are so many trade ideas on cb involving rondo/nash/gortat?!  its bad for the celts.

I don't think Nash is a downgrade from Rondo at all, only defensively. But I think Nash's contribution offensively would out-weight it. For me that's a good trade off, particularly if you share (which I'm sure you don't) my opinion's on Rondo's defense.

Nash is a better playmaker than Rondo, a vastly superior shooter, runs the game at a much better pace and a better passer than Rondo. I say he certainly would help us.

More importantly, more consistent and more dependable to run your offense as it should on a daily basis. Also, teams wouldn't be able to game plan against Nash as they do Rondo, which has bitten us in the ass during the playoffs often enough.

I really like Rondo's ability, I just think he waste's a lot of it and I'm certainly not confident on him being our correct choice for the future.

So Nash should help us improve this year's chances of winning the championship. There's potential of keeping the core a bit longer at affordable prices, plus a chance to get talented youth through high draft picks and more cap space to make moves.

nash and rondo have different strenghts, weaknesses, and intangibles.  the reason why i say it is a downgrade is bc with rondo, u can compete now and in the future.  with nash u can only compete now.

The question then becomes if the person you draft + acquire via free agency would be better contributors than Rondo for us and better building pieces. A risk certainly, but I think worth taking for me at least if you think Nash contributions this year would be superior to that of Rondo's for us.

i can respect that, as it comes down to your own philosophy.  personally, i see far too much risk and not enough reward in hoping that u can draft well and acquire free agents.  personally, i see rondo as the only valuable piece for the post big 3 era. i think in your hoping to acquire any impact draft picks and free agents, u would hope to get someone of rondo's calibur or better.....so why lose what we would hope to get in the future. 

im for trading rondo, but only for someone that can help us win now and the future. 

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 12:03:36 PM »

Offline demiurg

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so we downgrade at pg and upgrade a little at center, but with a role playing center.  not to mention it doesnt help us presently or moving forward. if we trade rondo it has to be for someone who can help now as well as the future.

i have no idea why there are so many trade ideas on cb involving rondo/nash/gortat?!  its bad for the celts.

I don't think Nash is a downgrade from Rondo at all, only defensively. But I think Nash's contribution offensively would out-weight it. For me that's a good trade off, particularly if you share (which I'm sure you don't) my opinion's on Rondo's defense.

In my opinion, Rondo, if he doesn't gamble, is to defense what Steve Nash is to offense.

Rondo for Nash + 1st + Gortat...probably not. They're going to have to throw in one or two more pieces to sweeten the deal. I think they might though considering how they're in complete rebuild mode pretty much.
Looooooooool
The Suns wouldn't trade Nash (guy who leads the league in assist and his contract is expiring) and their unprotected 1st (possibly top 5 in a deepest draft in years) for Rondo, and you want them to throw in Gortat (top 10 center on a great contract) and "one or two more pieces to sweeten the deal"?!

What a joke.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2012, 12:05:12 PM »

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I'm bringing back and oldie with this trade idea.


Presuming this team continues to play surprisingly well (despite not having a starting center) and Ainge decides NOT to blow up the big 3 (meaning trading Pierce and Ray for cap space, young players and draft picks)... Would you do this?

Rondo (10 mil) for Steve Nash (11 mil expiring) + the Suns unprotected 1st rounder?

Why for Boston:  Nash, Ray and KG will all come off the books next year... we could try to bring them back for cheap.  Instead of having 25 mil in cap space, this trade would give us 36 mil in cap space, but we'd still need to make decisions on what to do with Nash, Ray, KG, Bass, Jeff Green and Pietrus.  Also... the Suns pick is currently projected #8 in the lotto so we aren't leaving empty handed.

Why for the Suns:  Nash is old.  He would likely make the playoffs on Boston (though they still wouldn't really be contenders if you ask me) and he deserves to play on a winning team.  Rondo is in his prime and is a solid 26 year old replacement PG for their future.

Why not for the Suns:  If I'm them, I'm not sure I'd give up the face of our franchise (despite him being 38 years old) AND our biggest building block (2012 unprotected lotto pick) for Rondo.  It seems to contradict itself... getting a young star (Rondo) and trading away our best asset (lotto pick).  Doesn't make much sense.

Alternatives: 

#1 Rondo and JO for Nash and Gortat.  Can't see it happening.  Gortat is too good.  He's 27.  Not sure it makes sense for the Suns.

#2 Rondo and our 1st rounder (make it lotto protected) for Nash and their 1st rounder (unprotected) ....   I don't think it's enough for Boston.


Thoughts? 

 

Yes, I would do this in a heartbeat. It's a perfect "still win now but prepare for later" trade.