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Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 11:49:08 PM »

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No.

Rondo is a big piece of the puzzle for the future. And we already will have some cap space relief after thi season. Cap space is over rated, we do this we might have a lot of it. But what good is a ton of cap room if there's nobody to sign?

Rondo is young, still has room to grow. Rather have him in the future than a ton of cap space only to not be able to sign max or near max quality players, and be stuck with role players instead.
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Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2012, 01:59:45 AM »

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Rondo and JO for Nash and Gortat and Morris or a 1st

No other way.

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Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 02:02:04 AM »

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Rondo (great future) for Nash, (very little future)?!? Never, (though Phoenix would love it).
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Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 03:40:10 AM »

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No.
I think it's just silly.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2012, 04:23:59 AM »

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How much cap space do we need? And who do we expect to sign with it?

And why wouldn't we find a better move for Rondo? We aren't in the position where we can trade future contributors (Rondo) for minimal future contribution.

I also think trading for Steve Nash midseason is suicide because his playing style is so different it requires adjusting the offense. It would also require changing the defense to cover up his deficiencies. This would really sink us this season, especially with that lack of time for holding practice.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2012, 06:38:45 AM »

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I still cannot imagine Phoenix giving up a first rounder along with Nash for Rondo.

Their picks are too valuable. Cost too high.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2012, 07:20:08 AM »

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I'm a huge, huge Rondo fan, and I wouldn't trade him for CP3, nor for Deron Williams, nor for D Rose.

I'd trade him for Nash in a heartbeat though.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2012, 08:10:53 AM »

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Rondo and JO for Nash and Gortat and Morris or a 1st

No other way.

This I'd do. At least we got some production after Nash when he retires while the Suns get their PG of the future.
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Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2012, 08:29:05 AM »

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so we downgrade at pg and upgrade a little at center, but with a role playing center.  not to mention it doesnt help us presently or moving forward. if we trade rondo it has to be for someone who can help now as well as the future.

i have no idea why there are so many trade ideas on cb involving rondo/nash/gortat?!  its bad for the celts.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2012, 09:25:13 AM »

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Some people think we can get by with Bradley.   I have the deed to a bridge if anyone wants to buy it.  So they think Rondo is expendable.

Both are good defenders.   Neither can shoot.   One makes good decisions with the ball and averages 8-9 assists and one doesn't.

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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2012, 09:46:50 AM »

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I liked this trade before because of its win-now potential, but at this point I don't think it would put us over the top even if we got Nash and Gortat for Rondo.

Ultimately it comes down to getting a mid to late lottery pick in the upcoming draft for Rondo, and while this draft is loaded, that's not a good enough return.


If we're going to trade Rondo to move up in the draft, I'd rather package our two firsts with Rondo and get into the top 3-5 on draft day.

  High draft picks are great, the players they turn into aren't always. How often do drafts have 5 players that are better than Rondo?

Not often, but in a draft like this one, which is supposed to be absolutely loaded, it could be worth the gamble if Danny sees a guy he really thinks is going to be a superstar.

When we're rebuilding, the #1 goal will be to land the next Celtics franchise player.  If we can move into the top 5 of this draft and snag a guy Danny thinks could be that player, we should do it.
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Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2012, 09:50:34 AM »

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so we downgrade at pg and upgrade a little at center, but with a role playing center.  not to mention it doesnt help us presently or moving forward. if we trade rondo it has to be for someone who can help now as well as the future.

i have no idea why there are so many trade ideas on cb involving rondo/nash/gortat?!  its bad for the celts.

I don't think Nash is a downgrade from Rondo at all, only defensively. But I think Nash's contribution offensively would out-weight it. For me that's a good trade off, particularly if you share (which I'm sure you don't) my opinion's on Rondo's defense.

Nash is a better playmaker than Rondo, a vastly superior shooter, runs the game at a much better pace and a better passer than Rondo. I say he certainly would help us.

More importantly, more consistent and more dependable to run your offense as it should on a daily basis. Also, teams wouldn't be able to game plan against Nash as they do Rondo, which has bitten us in the ass during the playoffs often enough.

I really like Rondo's ability, I just think he waste's a lot of it and I'm certainly not confident on him being our correct choice for the future.

So Nash should help us improve this year's chances of winning the championship. There's potential of keeping the core a bit longer at affordable prices, plus a chance to get talented youth through high draft picks and more cap space to make moves.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2012, 09:54:04 AM »

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so we downgrade at pg and upgrade a little at center, but with a role playing center.  not to mention it doesnt help us presently or moving forward. if we trade rondo it has to be for someone who can help now as well as the future.

i have no idea why there are so many trade ideas on cb involving rondo/nash/gortat?!  its bad for the celts.

I don't think Nash is a downgrade from Rondo at all, only defensively. But I think Nash's contribution offensively would out-weight it. For me that's a good trade off, particularly if you share (which I'm sure you don't) my opinion's on Rondo's defense.

In my opinion, Rondo, if he doesn't gamble, is to defense what Steve Nash is to offense.

Rondo for Nash + 1st + Gortat...probably not. They're going to have to throw in one or two more pieces to sweeten the deal. I think they might though considering how they're in complete rebuild mode pretty much.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2012, 09:56:01 AM »

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so we downgrade at pg and upgrade a little at center, but with a role playing center.  not to mention it doesnt help us presently or moving forward. if we trade rondo it has to be for someone who can help now as well as the future.

i have no idea why there are so many trade ideas on cb involving rondo/nash/gortat?!  its bad for the celts.

I don't think Nash is a downgrade from Rondo at all, only defensively. But I think Nash's contribution offensively would out-weight it. For me that's a good trade off, particularly if you share (which I'm sure you don't) my opinion's on Rondo's defense.

Nash is a better playmaker than Rondo, a vastly superior shooter, runs the game at a much better pace and a better passer than Rondo. I say he certainly would help us.

More importantly, more consistent and more dependable to run your offense as it should on a daily basis. Also, teams wouldn't be able to game plan against Nash as they do Rondo, which has bitten us in the ass during the playoffs often enough.

I really like Rondo's ability, I just think he waste's a lot of it and I'm certainly not confident on him being our correct choice for the future.

So Nash should help us improve this year's chances of winning the championship. There's potential of keeping the core a bit longer at affordable prices, plus a chance to get talented youth through high draft picks and more cap space to make moves.

nash and rondo have different strenghts, weaknesses, and intangibles.  the reason why i say it is a downgrade is bc with rondo, u can compete now and in the future.  with nash u can only compete now.

Re: Would you trade Rondo to PHX?
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2012, 10:01:06 AM »

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so we downgrade at pg and upgrade a little at center, but with a role playing center.  not to mention it doesnt help us presently or moving forward. if we trade rondo it has to be for someone who can help now as well as the future.

i have no idea why there are so many trade ideas on cb involving rondo/nash/gortat?!  its bad for the celts.

I don't think Nash is a downgrade from Rondo at all, only defensively. But I think Nash's contribution offensively would out-weight it. For me that's a good trade off, particularly if you share (which I'm sure you don't) my opinion's on Rondo's defense.

Nash is a better playmaker than Rondo, a vastly superior shooter, runs the game at a much better pace and a better passer than Rondo. I say he certainly would help us.

More importantly, more consistent and more dependable to run your offense as it should on a daily basis. Also, teams wouldn't be able to game plan against Nash as they do Rondo, which has bitten us in the ass during the playoffs often enough.

I really like Rondo's ability, I just think he waste's a lot of it and I'm certainly not confident on him being our correct choice for the future.

So Nash should help us improve this year's chances of winning the championship. There's potential of keeping the core a bit longer at affordable prices, plus a chance to get talented youth through high draft picks and more cap space to make moves.

nash and rondo have different strenghts, weaknesses, and intangibles.  the reason why i say it is a downgrade is bc with rondo, u can compete now and in the future.  with nash u can only compete now.

The question then becomes if the person you draft + acquire via free agency would be better contributors than Rondo for us and better building pieces. A risk certainly, but I think worth taking for me at least if you think Nash contributions this year would be superior to that of Rondo's for us.