Could Ainge be gone next year?

[PosImpos]

Had he kept Perkins and signed him to the extension he got in OKC, Paul would be in Boston now.

Perkins in his current contract >>>> Jeff Green signed&traded

I believe Chris Paul was heading to LA all along; not a single thing would change the final outcome.

Now that the hope is gone which was blinding me.

I can see that now too.

Did you really think the NBA was going to let the Lakers get old and irrelevant?

3 teams that are never, ever bad or irrelevant:

Yankees
Steelers
Lakers


It's just the way of the world.

[CelticsFanNC]

  He made the Celtic's relevant for the first time in 20 years.  That should buy him time to attempt to rebuild.

 The window was always limited with this current team and he managed to extend it beyond the 2 to 3 years most "experts" predicted.  

  Does he hit on every trade?  No.  Who does?  Does he hit on every late 1st round pick?  Nope, but his track record is pretty strong.

  He's shown the guts to go for the gold when so many others in his position have been far less aggressive.

  I don't know what more people want from the guy.  

  

[Moreover]

Had he kept Perkins and signed him to the extension he got in OKC, Paul would be in Boston now.

Perkins in his current contract >>>> Jeff Green signed&traded

sorry but jeff green and clippers pick is worth more than Perk at 10 mil a year . They had okafor anyways who is better than Perk, why would they have made that trade ? makes no sense

Are you seeing how much other centers are getting in free-agency?

It'd be possible to flip Perkins for some assets New Orleans would be interested in. He's certainly more valuable on his relatively cheap deal than an unsigned backup wing like Green. But I suspect New Orleans would be very interested in Rondo+Perkins+filler for Paul+Okafor, for example.

[dlpin]

Had he kept Perkins and signed him to the extension he got in OKC, Paul would be in Boston now.

Perkins in his current contract >>>> Jeff Green signed&traded

sorry but jeff green and clippers pick is worth more than Perk at 10 mil a year . They had okafor anyways who is better than Perk, why would they have made that trade ? makes no sense

Are you seeing how much other centers are getting in free-agency?

It'd be possible to flip Perkins for some assets New Orleans would be interested in. He's certainly more valuable on his relatively cheap deal than an unsigned backup wing like Green. But I suspect New Orleans would be very interested in Rondo+Perkins+filler for Paul+Okafor, for example.

How much are they getting?
The idea that Perkins is the missing piece to this deal, instead of Green and a draft pick, is just wishful thinking. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that is the case.

[SHAQATTACK]

Naw ...you can't blame Danny . I'm proud he tried  , it was a long shot , and about the only thing he could do short of wiping the slate clean and starting over from scratch.  

Really not CP fault far as I know , he had to go where they sent him , its the same old LA story, just like the Yankees, they get have to have any and every superstar team they want.

LA has the ability to get any player any time , and sometimes I think just like a dog who wants another dogs bone, they take EVERYTHING away anytime it looks like we are interested in a  person.  


Might as well dump the lot go get about 20 wins and hope some decent star comes along we can get for once as a lottery pick.

I'm bummed

 

[greenhead85]

Danny knows the ins and outs of the league. He might have just played the "devil's advocate" by prying CP3 from NO when he could have known that it was already planned for a long long time before by the Lakers organization to acquire him. Remember the time Phil Jackson was asking on where would CP3 be landing when the league took over ownership on NO? Phil and LAL knew that they couldn't compete anymore with the Miami 3 that is why they were in the mode of superstar(s)acquisition. Wyc and Danny even knew that Lebron would end up in Miami at the time when we were competing with LeQueen and the Cavs in 2010 playoffs.

Danny breathes NBA air in his system. He knows the league inside out. He is a treasure. My only appeal for some of us (Celts fans) is I hope we could lessen our emotions when our team makes business decisions. We get so attached to our players to a fault. LAL easily dumps players (even big names like Gasol, Odom) just to get into competition or better yet to perennial championship contention. If this CP3 to LAL deal, as it was reported, would proceed then we should also be ready for events where we would be moving any of our players including KG, Ray, Rondo, etc to get a better roster too.

[Moreover]

Had he kept Perkins and signed him to the extension he got in OKC, Paul would be in Boston now.

Perkins in his current contract >>>> Jeff Green signed&traded

sorry but jeff green and clippers pick is worth more than Perk at 10 mil a year . They had okafor anyways who is better than Perk, why would they have made that trade ? makes no sense

Are you seeing how much other centers are getting in free-agency?

It'd be possible to flip Perkins for some assets New Orleans would be interested in. He's certainly more valuable on his relatively cheap deal than an unsigned backup wing like Green. But I suspect New Orleans would be very interested in Rondo+Perkins+filler for Paul+Okafor, for example.

How much are they getting?
The idea that Perkins is the missing piece to this deal, instead of Green and a draft pick, is just wishful thinking. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that is the case.

Chandler just got $58 million/4 years. It almost doubles Perkins' contract. Even a guy like DeAndre Jordan will be making substantially more than Perkins.

Perkins would be a very valuable piece. A quality defensive center signed to a club-friendly deal. It's exponentially more valuable than a very protected pick and a backup wing free-agent. I mean, send him to Oklahoma now and you get more than a Green S&T and the pick.

[CoachBo]

I've been as critical of Ainge as anyone here, but the Rondo for Paul deal was a clear upgrade for this season, and a potential bridge to the future if Paul could be resigned, versus going forward toward disaster with a petulant point guard whose shooting is deteriorating.

These discussions were wholly appropriate, and these "gone" threads make me chuckle. Ainge is aggressive in his attempts to keep the Celtics from another valley - as difficult as that may be - and whether I like the individual moves or not, he's not a fan. He's a professional.

[dlpin]

Had he kept Perkins and signed him to the extension he got in OKC, Paul would be in Boston now.

Perkins in his current contract >>>> Jeff Green signed&traded

sorry but jeff green and clippers pick is worth more than Perk at 10 mil a year . They had okafor anyways who is better than Perk, why would they have made that trade ? makes no sense

Are you seeing how much other centers are getting in free-agency?

It'd be possible to flip Perkins for some assets New Orleans would be interested in. He's certainly more valuable on his relatively cheap deal than an unsigned backup wing like Green. But I suspect New Orleans would be very interested in Rondo+Perkins+filler for Paul+Okafor, for example.

How much are they getting?
The idea that Perkins is the missing piece to this deal, instead of Green and a draft pick, is just wishful thinking. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that is the case.

Chandler just got $58 million/4 years. It almost doubles Perkins' contract. Even a guy like DeAndre Jordan will be making substantially more than Perkins.

Perkins would be a very valuable piece. A quality defensive center signed to a club-friendly deal. It's exponentially more valuable than a very protected pick and a backup wing free-agent. I mean, send him to Oklahoma now and you get more than a Green S&T and the pick.

It's nonsense that Perkins would have gotten a deal done where green and a pick didn't. The fact that Chandler, who is a better player, got a good deal isn't any indication of that.

[Moreover]

Had he kept Perkins and signed him to the extension he got in OKC, Paul would be in Boston now.

Perkins in his current contract >>>> Jeff Green signed&traded

sorry but jeff green and clippers pick is worth more than Perk at 10 mil a year . They had okafor anyways who is better than Perk, why would they have made that trade ? makes no sense

Are you seeing how much other centers are getting in free-agency?

It'd be possible to flip Perkins for some assets New Orleans would be interested in. He's certainly more valuable on his relatively cheap deal than an unsigned backup wing like Green. But I suspect New Orleans would be very interested in Rondo+Perkins+filler for Paul+Okafor, for example.

How much are they getting?
The idea that Perkins is the missing piece to this deal, instead of Green and a draft pick, is just wishful thinking. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that is the case.

Chandler just got $58 million/4 years. It almost doubles Perkins' contract. Even a guy like DeAndre Jordan will be making substantially more than Perkins.

Perkins would be a very valuable piece. A quality defensive center signed to a club-friendly deal. It's exponentially more valuable than a very protected pick and a backup wing free-agent. I mean, send him to Oklahoma now and you get more than a Green S&T and the pick.

It's nonsense that Perkins would have gotten a deal done where green and a pick didn't. The fact that Chandler, who is a better player, got a good deal isn't any indication of that.

You don't think Perkins is more valuable than an unsigned back-up sf and the pick?

Well, in that case, why doesn't want flip Green and the pick into a quality starting center with a good contract like Perkins?

[Yogi]

1 Signed Doc to a long term contract.  check.
2 Draft Rondo, turn him into an all-star point guard and lock him into a sound contract.  check
3 Draft Glen Davis in the second round and develop him to the point of being considered a SMOY or at least a sign and trade asset.  Check
4 Have two first rounders in the deepest draft in recent years.  check
5 Have good assets in the form of early second rounders for the next several years to keep adding young talent hoping for another Rondo, Perkins, Davis etc. check
6 Make sure we have as much cap space as possible to go after the most dominant player in the NBA when he becomes a free agent.  check
7 Draft Perkins late, develop him into a good player and turn him into a young, athletic lottery pick in Jeff Green instead of being stuck letting him walk or compromising our cap space in the most important free agency for the Celtics.  check
   Looks like he did a decent job setting us up for the future while competing in the present.  I am looking forward to Avery Bradley, E'Twaun Moore, Gilbert Brown and JaJuan Johnson this year.  That is an unbelievable amount of athleticism and potential for two late first rounders a late second rounder and an undrafted free agent.

[dlpin]

I am not about to re argue the Perkins trade. But the issue is not whether Green and a pick are better than Perkins, but if Perkins was the key to get a deal for Paul. Kevin Martin, Scola, Odom, Dragic and a Pick are still a lot more valuable than Rondo, Perkins and Boston's pick, regardless of how that compares to Green.

[jdz101]

Had he kept Perkins and signed him to the extension he got in OKC, Paul would be in Boston now.

Perkins in his current contract >>>> Jeff Green signed&traded

sorry but jeff green and clippers pick is worth more than Perk at 10 mil a year . They had okafor anyways who is better than Perk, why would they have made that trade ? makes no sense

Are you seeing how much other centers are getting in free-agency?

It'd be possible to flip Perkins for some assets New Orleans would be interested in. He's certainly more valuable on his relatively cheap deal than an unsigned backup wing like Green. But I suspect New Orleans would be very interested in Rondo+Perkins+filler for Paul+Okafor, for example.

How much are they getting?
The idea that Perkins is the missing piece to this deal, instead of Green and a draft pick, is just wishful thinking. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that is the case.

Chandler just got $58 million/4 years. It almost doubles Perkins' contract. Even a guy like DeAndre Jordan will be making substantially more than Perkins.

Perkins would be a very valuable piece. A quality defensive center signed to a club-friendly deal. It's exponentially more valuable than a very protected pick and a backup wing free-agent. I mean, send him to Oklahoma now and you get more than a Green S&T and the pick.

It's nonsense that Perkins would have gotten a deal done where green and a pick didn't. The fact that Chandler, who is a better player, got a good deal isn't any indication of that.

You don't think Perkins is more valuable than an unsigned back-up sf and the pick?

Well, in that case, why doesn't want flip Green and the pick into a quality starting center with a good contract like Perkins?

Dude you cant say it like that. We couldnt offer him even that amount of money. So to argue his value on that contract is a moot point. Danny did well to get anything at all for him.