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If your gonna bench them then you might as well just trade Ray and KG for younger players who can perform close to their level.
Quote from: Elliot.C on June 24, 2011, 09:09:33 PMIf your gonna bench them then you might as well just trade Ray and KG for younger players who can perform close to their level. Can we do that? I'm in for a young(ish) KG and Ray...
Quote from: OsirusCeltics on June 24, 2011, 06:11:07 PMQuote from: greenpride32 on June 24, 2011, 05:59:24 PMQuote from: OsirusCeltics on June 24, 2011, 01:50:47 PMSo the Big 3 didn't look tired after every playoff game against the Heat? The always had good starts, but their tiredness prevented them from finishingWe had plenty of bad 1Q, 2Q, 3Q, and 4Q performances. Of the big 3, KG is the only one that really needs additional rest because of the bad knee. Since you want to reference the Heat series, we scored 14 points in Q1 game; 16 points Q2 game 2, 17 points Q2 game 3; no we did not always start good.I used to think the C's were awful at back to backs because it gets so much press; but then I looked at the stats (don't have them handy now) for other teams and league wide, and all teams have poor recordes under this scenario. I think it has more to do with different time zones and having your sleep schedule constantly thrown off, than with age alone.This is my point. I know the Big 3 CAN play 30-35 minutes, they proved that last year. But I see that as counterproductive to have the offense so dependent on only 3 players for next seasonThere needs to be a spread of wealth. Theres too many cases of new players on this team feeling lost. Doc hardly draws plays for "the other guys" and the players feel out of place and are pressured to fit in or they get benchedAge has something to do with it though. the 3 are all have played 12+ seasons and theres alot of wear and tear. Just preserve them (25 mpg) and just let the younger guys get more opportunities to make a mark on this team Or you'll get a bad record that leaves us without HCA for the important playoff series, a bench that has been exposed and over taxed by biting off too big of a role in the regular season, an angry big 3 who chaffe under minute restrictions, and a team that is lacking the chemistry of knowing what roles Doc is going to ask them to play in the playoffs.But they'd be rested!I don't think the Big 3 suffocate the development of other players, Perkins and Rondo developed quite nicely with them after all. I think the other players we've had just haven't been very good, especially on the offensive end.
Quote from: greenpride32 on June 24, 2011, 05:59:24 PMQuote from: OsirusCeltics on June 24, 2011, 01:50:47 PMSo the Big 3 didn't look tired after every playoff game against the Heat? The always had good starts, but their tiredness prevented them from finishingWe had plenty of bad 1Q, 2Q, 3Q, and 4Q performances. Of the big 3, KG is the only one that really needs additional rest because of the bad knee. Since you want to reference the Heat series, we scored 14 points in Q1 game; 16 points Q2 game 2, 17 points Q2 game 3; no we did not always start good.I used to think the C's were awful at back to backs because it gets so much press; but then I looked at the stats (don't have them handy now) for other teams and league wide, and all teams have poor recordes under this scenario. I think it has more to do with different time zones and having your sleep schedule constantly thrown off, than with age alone.This is my point. I know the Big 3 CAN play 30-35 minutes, they proved that last year. But I see that as counterproductive to have the offense so dependent on only 3 players for next seasonThere needs to be a spread of wealth. Theres too many cases of new players on this team feeling lost. Doc hardly draws plays for "the other guys" and the players feel out of place and are pressured to fit in or they get benchedAge has something to do with it though. the 3 are all have played 12+ seasons and theres alot of wear and tear. Just preserve them (25 mpg) and just let the younger guys get more opportunities to make a mark on this team
Quote from: OsirusCeltics on June 24, 2011, 01:50:47 PMSo the Big 3 didn't look tired after every playoff game against the Heat? The always had good starts, but their tiredness prevented them from finishingWe had plenty of bad 1Q, 2Q, 3Q, and 4Q performances. Of the big 3, KG is the only one that really needs additional rest because of the bad knee. Since you want to reference the Heat series, we scored 14 points in Q1 game; 16 points Q2 game 2, 17 points Q2 game 3; no we did not always start good.I used to think the C's were awful at back to backs because it gets so much press; but then I looked at the stats (don't have them handy now) for other teams and league wide, and all teams have poor recordes under this scenario. I think it has more to do with different time zones and having your sleep schedule constantly thrown off, than with age alone.
So the Big 3 didn't look tired after every playoff game against the Heat? The always had good starts, but their tiredness prevented them from finishing
Quote from: Elliot.C on June 24, 2011, 09:09:33 PMIf your gonna bench them then you might as well just trade Ray and KG for younger players who can perform close to their level. and why would other teams be willing to give us younger players close to their caliber when KG's career is probably entering it's last season.I think Ray has three years left in him but he's going to dip to the 13-14 ppg territory
Quote from: BballTim on June 24, 2011, 09:39:19 PMQuote from: Elliot.C on June 24, 2011, 09:09:33 PMIf your gonna bench them then you might as well just trade Ray and KG for younger players who can perform close to their level. Can we do that? I'm in for a young(ish) KG and Ray...Their names are Etwan Moore and JaJuan Johnson.