Krstic, early in trade but what a find

[Taklamar]

His defense is almost as good as Perk's presently too despite a lot of negative comments about it.  DRtg for Nenad is 101 in Boston, it was 110 in OKC.   DRtg for Perk this year was 99 with us.  So a very minor difference between him and Perk for this stat.  Playing with our guys has made an improvement in his D from that stat too.

DRtg =Defensive Rating (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); for players and teams it is points allowed per 100 posessions.

How about the passing from him too?  That was a sweet pass to Ray Allen from the high post for the three point play.  I also liked the catch of the deflected pass.

I don't think defensive rating is a particularly reliable stat for individual players.  For instance, according to that stat, KG is our best defensive player.  No complaint there, right?  Second best?  Troy Murphy.  Third best?  Shaq.  Fifth best?  Semih.  Um...  no.  Even if people want to argue for Shaq being a good overall defender despite his weakness on the pick-and-roll, there's really no way that anybody can say with a straight face that Troy Murphy and Semih Erden are / were top-five defenders on our team.

I agree.  I think DRtg is a great stat but requires a lot of massaging of the data to get anything reliable out of it.  Not cut and dry by any means.  Examples; Shaq has a good DRtg primarily of time spent on the court with KG (around 400 of his 730 minutes).  Ray Allen pulls a 103 which seems pretty good, except the team's rating is 99.9 and he is tied for the worst on the team.

On a side note, Avery Bradley has 119 mins -1.5 PER and a 59 ORtg.  Even with injuries I'm not sure he should be on the team.  He needs D-League experience in a bad way.

[Cman]

His defense is almost as good as Perk's presently too despite a lot of negative comments about it.  DRtg for Nenad is 101 in Boston, it was 110 in OKC.   DRtg for Perk this year was 99 with us.  So a very minor difference between him and Perk for this stat.  Playing with our guys has made an improvement in his D from that stat too.

DRtg =Defensive Rating (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); for players and teams it is points allowed per 100 posessions.

How about the passing from him too?  That was a sweet pass to Ray Allen from the high post for the three point play.  I also liked the catch of the deflected pass.

I don't think defensive rating is a particularly reliable stat for individual players.  For instance, according to that stat, KG is our best defensive player.  No complaint there, right?  Second best?  Troy Murphy.  Third best?  Shaq.  Fifth best?  Semih.  Um...  no.  Even if people want to argue for Shaq being a good overall defender despite his weakness on the pick-and-roll, there's really no way that anybody can say with a straight face that Troy Murphy and Semih Erden are / were top-five defenders on our team.

I agree.  I think DRtg is a great stat but requires a lot of massaging of the data to get anything reliable out of it.  Not cut and dry by any means.  Examples; Shaq has a good DRtg primarily of time spent on the court with KG (around 400 of his 730 minutes).  Ray Allen pulls a 103 which seems pretty good, except the team's rating is 99.9 and he is tied for the worst on the team.

On a side note, Avery Bradley has 119 mins -1.5 PER and a 59 ORtg.  Even with injuries I'm not sure he should be on the team.  He needs D-League experience in a bad way.

I appreciate the general idea that we need to temper our comments away from extreme despair and extreme jubilation based on a player's bad play in one game and good play in another game, respectively.

But my general take on the various stats that people put out there is that you can't rely on one stat only.  Each of the various stats help to paint a picture about the player and what he brings to the game/team.

[Celtics4ever]

My point is that he isn't as porous as some here think he is on defense.   Read some of the posts recently and peeps were blaming him for the perimeter defense even which isn't fair.  He is about as good as Perk was this year and aye Perk's stats were down.   He isn't the reason like some posts here said he lost two games.  We shot poorly and D'ed up poorly in those loses not all on one man.

His scoring and boards have been a pleasant suprise.  I am one of those who think that Center by committee has served us ok this year and its the least important position on this team as we are presently constructed.  We won the most this year with an aging allstar at Center.  I think we are going to be ok down the stretch and I for one am fired up for the playoffs!