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Re: Dealing baby
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2010, 02:04:38 PM »

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I thought we should have traded BBD in the offseason, however not sure if now is a great time to do it. Maybe at the trade deadline if there is a big hole somewhere. No way he will re-sign with us. He'll pull a TA on us. Might as well get something at the deadline unless he starts playing better. If Perk doesn't come back healthy and effective or JO or Shaq continue to be off and on health-wise then you have to keep him.

Re: Dealing baby
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2010, 02:21:06 PM »

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I know his stock dipped after last night, but come on.

Re: Dealing baby
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2010, 07:30:48 PM »

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If Perk doesn't come back healthy and effective or JO or Shaq continue to be off and on health-wise then you have to keep him.

This, I disagree with. 

JO-I have no faith in his health or availability at any time, including playoffs, and would actively try to deal him.  Shaq, at his age, is perhaps a question mark, and Perk as well due to coming off injury.

That means we either have an abundance of size at Center, or nobody...somewhere between abundance and nobody is where we're at at the 5. 

Some say BBD is our most reliable big, but he is barely a PF, and is surely does not have adequate size at the center spot (horizontally, perhaps, but not vertically).

So BBD is not, IMO, the answer for a reliable big because he is too undersized.  Also, no blocks...we need a big that can block shots. 

Note that, despite significantly more minutes this year, his per-36 rebounds are down.  His per-36 blocks are 0.3, which is quite horrible for a big guy.

I would be activly looking to move him (and JO, VW too) for an upgrade.  Combined, BBD, JO, and VW make about $9.5, which could return 125%+$100K or about $11.975 in salary.  Is there a player (or combination) out there available in trade in that range who would be an upgrade?  I surely would expect so.

Re: Dealing baby
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2010, 07:36:27 PM »

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If Perk doesn't come back healthy and effective or JO or Shaq continue to be off and on health-wise then you have to keep him.

This, I disagree with. 

JO-I have no faith in his health or availability at any time, including playoffs, and would actively try to deal him.  Shaq, at his age, is perhaps a question mark, and Perk as well due to coming off injury.

That means we either have an abundance of size at Center, or nobody...somewhere between abundance and nobody is where we're at at the 5. 

Some say BBD is our most reliable big, but he is barely a PF, and is surely does not have adequate size at the center spot (horizontally, perhaps, but not vertically).

So BBD is not, IMO, the answer for a reliable big because he is too undersized.  Also, no blocks...we need a big that can block shots. 

Note that, despite significantly more minutes this year, his per-36 rebounds are down.  His per-36 blocks are 0.3, which is quite horrible for a big guy.

I would be activly looking to move him (and JO, VW too) for an upgrade.  Combined, BBD, JO, and VW make about $9.5, which could return 125%+$100K or about $11.975 in salary.  Is there a player (or combination) out there available in trade in that range who would be an upgrade?  I surely would expect so.

 A big, that's an upgrade, that a team's willing to give us for a minimum salary, a FA at the end of the year, and an oft-injured player with another year on his deal? That makes things a little harder. Or, probably, a lot harder.

Re: Dealing baby
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2010, 07:50:39 PM »

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If Perk doesn't come back healthy and effective or JO or Shaq continue to be off and on health-wise then you have to keep him.

This, I disagree with. 

JO-I have no faith in his health or availability at any time, including playoffs, and would actively try to deal him.  Shaq, at his age, is perhaps a question mark, and Perk as well due to coming off injury.

That means we either have an abundance of size at Center, or nobody...somewhere between abundance and nobody is where we're at at the 5. 

Some say BBD is our most reliable big, but he is barely a PF, and is surely does not have adequate size at the center spot (horizontally, perhaps, but not vertically).

So BBD is not, IMO, the answer for a reliable big because he is too undersized.  Also, no blocks...we need a big that can block shots. 

Note that, despite significantly more minutes this year, his per-36 rebounds are down.  His per-36 blocks are 0.3, which is quite horrible for a big guy.

I would be activly looking to move him (and JO, VW too) for an upgrade.  Combined, BBD, JO, and VW make about $9.5, which could return 125%+$100K or about $11.975 in salary.  Is there a player (or combination) out there available in trade in that range who would be an upgrade?  I surely would expect so.

 A big, that's an upgrade, that a team's willing to give us for a minimum salary, a FA at the end of the year, and an oft-injured player with another year on his deal? That makes things a little harder. Or, probably, a lot harder.

Indeed...not the upgrade part, but finding someone willing to take that bag of trash (meaning, JO's deal).  VW is immediately waivable for salary relief, so that's the bonus to a team over the cap.  At best, possible guys might include someone like Troy Murphy, though it may have to include some cash and a 2nd rounder to happen (due to JO's deal).

The upgrade shouldn't be that hard, honestly.  I wonder whether Indy might appreciate BBD and be willing to try him out in exchange for, perhaps, McRoberts and Dahntay Jones.