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Re: KG mobility/explosiveness officially back?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2010, 01:11:12 PM »

Offline screwedupmaniac

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The explosive spin move for the and-1 in the post last night gave me shivers...very much like a move he would have made in 2008. I'm a realist in the fact that he is older than he was then...however, we can't forget that he spent a big chunk of time off the court due to knee surgery and rehab, so perhaps his legs are fresher than one would expect with the number of miles he's put on those legs in his career. Also, he is a year removed from the surgery, which is the time frame necessary for one to feel like himself again (see Ray Allen's surgery recovery).

Re: KG mobility/explosiveness officially back?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2010, 01:36:34 PM »

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It certainly showed on that throw down over Bogut. I havent seen him make a dunk like that in a long long time. He usually clanks it off the bank rim. It was nice to see that go down...

And what is with all this crap about bad rebounding? Rebounding is the least of our worries this season and that has showed. Many of the Bucks put backs on the offensive glass came when Baby or Oneal switched to guard Jennings and Rondo was left to guard Bogut who could easily get the rebound over him. We need to address issues like pick and roll defense more than rebounding.


TP. Rondo was having trouble keeping Jennings in front of him all game, especially when they were playing the pick and roll game with Bogut. That caused a breakdown in the D and rebounding.


  I missed part of the second half but I didn't see this at all. Jennings would try and fail to get past Rondo, sometimes getting backed up 10 feet or so behind the 3 point line in the process, and have to call for a pick to get anywhere. Rondo did a great job of taking him out of the game when I was watching.

It was in the 2nd half where Jennings got in the lane alot. It wasnt necessarily all of Rondo. It was the P&R defense really but I thought Rondo could have gone under alot of picks as Jennings wasnt really shooting the ball well from the perimeter.

Edit: And to add of course BBD and the the other bigs in at the time have to do a better job of hedging.

Re: KG mobility/explosiveness officially back?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2010, 02:11:16 PM »

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It certainly showed on that throw down over Bogut. I havent seen him make a dunk like that in a long long time. He usually clanks it off the bank rim. It was nice to see that go down...

And what is with all this crap about bad rebounding? Rebounding is the least of our worries this season and that has showed. Many of the Bucks put backs on the offensive glass came when Baby or Oneal switched to guard Jennings and Rondo was left to guard Bogut who could easily get the rebound over him. We need to address issues like pick and roll defense more than rebounding.


TP. Rondo was having trouble keeping Jennings in front of him all game, especially when they were playing the pick and roll game with Bogut. That caused a breakdown in the D and rebounding.


  I missed part of the second half but I didn't see this at all. Jennings would try and fail to get past Rondo, sometimes getting backed up 10 feet or so behind the 3 point line in the process, and have to call for a pick to get anywhere. Rondo did a great job of taking him out of the game when I was watching.

It was in the 2nd half where Jennings got in the lane alot. It wasnt necessarily all of Rondo. It was the P&R defense really but I thought Rondo could have gone under alot of picks as Jennings wasnt really shooting the ball well from the perimeter.

Edit: And to add of course BBD and the the other bigs in at the time have to do a better job of hedging.

  Ok, I just wouldn't consider Jennings using a pick to get past Rondo to be a case of Rondo being unable to keep his man in front of him. And do the bigs ever really hedge for Rondo? The only person I recall doing much of that last year was Sheed.

Re: KG mobility/explosiveness officially back?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2010, 03:01:47 PM »

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     Come on. KG is not the explosive guy he was like during the championship year. He is healthy and two years older. He's where he should be at this stage.All of the big 3 have lost a little bit requiring Rondo to improve to keep us as a serious contender. The Celtics NEED Rondo to be this great.Rondo creates so much easy offense for everyone. If we didn't have a top 3 or 4 point guard i think KG would struggle somewhat on the offensive end. He's a jump shooter more and more now. Luckily he's a freaking awesome jump shooter! But this whole explosiveness talk is something that people just repeat and repeat and people start just believing it's true.

I dunno man. He doesnt quite have the lift he had 2 years ago...but this is pretty close. The point is he is STRONG again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apxeVgrN3fM&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1



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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2010, 03:08:16 PM »

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It certainly showed on that throw down over Bogut. I havent seen him make a dunk like that in a long long time. He usually clanks it off the bank rim. It was nice to see that go down...

And what is with all this crap about bad rebounding? Rebounding is the least of our worries this season and that has showed. Many of the Bucks put backs on the offensive glass came when Baby or Oneal switched to guard Jennings and Rondo was left to guard Bogut who could easily get the rebound over him. We need to address issues like pick and roll defense more than rebounding.


TP. Rondo was having trouble keeping Jennings in front of him all game, especially when they were playing the pick and roll game with Bogut. That caused a breakdown in the D and rebounding.


  I missed part of the second half but I didn't see this at all. Jennings would try and fail to get past Rondo, sometimes getting backed up 10 feet or so behind the 3 point line in the process, and have to call for a pick to get anywhere. Rondo did a great job of taking him out of the game when I was watching.

It was in the 2nd half where Jennings got in the lane alot. It wasnt necessarily all of Rondo. It was the P&R defense really but I thought Rondo could have gone under alot of picks as Jennings wasnt really shooting the ball well from the perimeter.

Edit: And to add of course BBD and the the other bigs in at the time have to do a better job of hedging.

  Ok, I just wouldn't consider Jennings using a pick to get past Rondo to be a case of Rondo being unable to keep his man in front of him. And do the bigs ever really hedge for Rondo? The only person I recall doing much of that last year was Sheed.

True. P&R defense in general more than Rondo's man defense which was very good.

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2010, 03:16:37 PM »

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It certainly showed on that throw down over Bogut. I havent seen him make a dunk like that in a long long time. He usually clanks it off the bank rim. It was nice to see that go down...

And what is with all this crap about bad rebounding? Rebounding is the least of our worries this season and that has showed. Many of the Bucks put backs on the offensive glass came when Baby or Oneal switched to guard Jennings and Rondo was left to guard Bogut who could easily get the rebound over him. We need to address issues like pick and roll defense more than rebounding.


TP. Rondo was having trouble keeping Jennings in front of him all game, especially when they were playing the pick and roll game with Bogut. That caused a breakdown in the D and rebounding.


  I missed part of the second half but I didn't see this at all. Jennings would try and fail to get past Rondo, sometimes getting backed up 10 feet or so behind the 3 point line in the process, and have to call for a pick to get anywhere. Rondo did a great job of taking him out of the game when I was watching.

It was in the 2nd half where Jennings got in the lane alot. It wasnt necessarily all of Rondo. It was the P&R defense really but I thought Rondo could have gone under alot of picks as Jennings wasnt really shooting the ball well from the perimeter.

Edit: And to add of course BBD and the the other bigs in at the time have to do a better job of hedging.

  Ok, I just wouldn't consider Jennings using a pick to get past Rondo to be a case of Rondo being unable to keep his man in front of him. And do the bigs ever really hedge for Rondo? The only person I recall doing much of that last year was Sheed.
KG still hedges, but since he's the better P&R defender usually other teams will run it with whomever he's not guarding.

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2010, 03:22:38 PM »

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It certainly showed on that throw down over Bogut. I havent seen him make a dunk like that in a long long time. He usually clanks it off the bank rim. It was nice to see that go down...

And what is with all this crap about bad rebounding? Rebounding is the least of our worries this season and that has showed. Many of the Bucks put backs on the offensive glass came when Baby or Oneal switched to guard Jennings and Rondo was left to guard Bogut who could easily get the rebound over him. We need to address issues like pick and roll defense more than rebounding.


TP. Rondo was having trouble keeping Jennings in front of him all game, especially when they were playing the pick and roll game with Bogut. That caused a breakdown in the D and rebounding.


  I missed part of the second half but I didn't see this at all. Jennings would try and fail to get past Rondo, sometimes getting backed up 10 feet or so behind the 3 point line in the process, and have to call for a pick to get anywhere. Rondo did a great job of taking him out of the game when I was watching.

It was in the 2nd half where Jennings got in the lane alot. It wasnt necessarily all of Rondo. It was the P&R defense really but I thought Rondo could have gone under alot of picks as Jennings wasnt really shooting the ball well from the perimeter.

Edit: And to add of course BBD and the the other bigs in at the time have to do a better job of hedging.

  Ok, I just wouldn't consider Jennings using a pick to get past Rondo to be a case of Rondo being unable to keep his man in front of him. And do the bigs ever really hedge for Rondo? The only person I recall doing much of that last year was Sheed.
KG still hedges, but since he's the better P&R defender usually other teams will run it with whomever he's not guarding.

  Makes sense.

Re: KG mobility/explosiveness officially back?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »

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his confidence is skyrocketing.

Re: KG mobility/explosiveness officially back?
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2010, 04:43:02 PM »

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How come bogut kept getting inside position last night. Perhaps he was not responsible for Bogut; but several times he got under Garnett on his side of the court. So someone was not boxing out - was it BBD, Jermaine or Garnet?

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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2010, 05:23:06 PM »

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I believe that KG will be as close to 07-08 as ever this year. He appears to be fully healed and as fluid as he has been over the last almost 2 years.

He was averaging over 10 rebs a game this season until last night.

Yes - that flush over Bogut was sweet, too.

We won't be seeing those type of dunks every night, but we'll be seeing them more than last year, which is good.

The most impressive thing is that he did this on game 2 of a back-to-back, and playing a lot of minutes.

If KG plays like this and remains relatively healthy during our playoff run, we take Banner 18 - no matter how good ORL, MIA or LA is.

Perk will be welcomed back, Shaq and JO are great to have - but we need Ticket to get access to Banner 18.

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2010, 05:26:29 PM »

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It certainly showed on that throw down over Bogut. I havent seen him make a dunk like that in a long long time. He usually clanks it off the bank rim. It was nice to see that go down...

And what is with all this crap about bad rebounding? Rebounding is the least of our worries this season and that has showed. Many of the Bucks put backs on the offensive glass came when Baby or Oneal switched to guard Jennings and Rondo was left to guard Bogut who could easily get the rebound over him. We need to address issues like pick and roll defense more than rebounding.


TP. Rondo was having trouble keeping Jennings in front of him all game, especially when they were playing the pick and roll game with Bogut. That caused a breakdown in the D and rebounding.


  I missed part of the second half but I didn't see this at all. Jennings would try and fail to get past Rondo, sometimes getting backed up 10 feet or so behind the 3 point line in the process, and have to call for a pick to get anywhere. Rondo did a great job of taking him out of the game when I was watching.

It was in the 2nd half where Jennings got in the lane alot. It wasnt necessarily all of Rondo. It was the P&R defense really but I thought Rondo could have gone under alot of picks as Jennings wasnt really shooting the ball well from the perimeter.

Edit: And to add of course BBD and the the other bigs in at the time have to do a better job of hedging.

I saw Allen on Jennings quite a few times in the 4th. I only really saw Jennings go past Rondo like once without a pick. And Rondo was playing zone and there should have been a help defender to block his angle to the basketb.