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Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2010, 01:56:56 PM »

Offline Larry Pistol

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PG: Rondo/Bradley
SG: Ray/Josh Powell
SF: Pierce/Roger Mason Jr/Tony Allen
PF: Garnet/Baby/Powe
C: Tyson Chandler/Perk

Sign Josh Powell for minimal contract. Powe, the same. Sign and Trade Sheed and Harongody and second rounder for next year to get Tyson. Mason Jr-> MLE.

It's possible. Not feasible. What do you guys think?

Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2010, 02:00:13 PM »

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Ok so I would prob trade Sheed's contract + Baby for Josh Smith. (It works, but Atl prob wouldn't do it).

I would sign Shaq and Allen Iverson for vet min and resign both Ray Allen and Tony Allen.

And for MLE I would get Mike Miller.


Starters: Rondo, Ray, KG, Pierce and Smith

Rotation: Bradley, Shaq, Iverson, Tony Allen and Mike Miller

And we would add Perks to the rotation once he comes back.

Reserves: i have no clue


Alright that would be my dream team; and hopefully it's financially realistic.


Do you really think Josh Smith is a better play than Big Baby?? Don't gt me wrong, he's a beast on the fast break and blocking shots. But I'd rather have Davis than him. Plus he hates Boston. No chance he comes here. NONE.

Lol Josh Smith is a fringe all-star. Definitely a better player than BBD (don't get me wrong, I love Baby). And who cares whether he likes it here, its not a S&T, he has no choice.


As for the team Rashi mentioned, it's too small. KG can't bang with C's for most of the regular season. Too small, no backup PF for most of the season? No 5th big? Iverson?

Errrr...
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Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2010, 02:18:02 PM »

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You guys need to get off Josh Smith's nuts. He's only good at two, maybe three things. #1: blocks.  Blockas are great and really hard to come by, gotta give it to him with that. #2: Dunks. Who cares? We've had two slamdunk champs in the past 5 years. How did either of them do? Ehhhh. and #3. Rebounding. He's not great at it, but its always a plus.

Regardless, he is not a "Fringe all-star". He's not even in the top 10 in the NBA at his position. He's not even a 10/10 guy.

What is the fascination with him??

Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2010, 02:50:39 PM »

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You guys need to get off Josh Smith's nuts. He's only good at two, maybe three things. #1: blocks.  Blockas are great and really hard to come by, gotta give it to him with that. #2: Dunks. Who cares? We've had two slamdunk champs in the past 5 years. How did either of them do? Ehhhh. and #3. Rebounding. He's not great at it, but its always a plus.

Regardless, he is not a "Fringe all-star". He's not even in the top 10 in the NBA at his position. He's not even a 10/10 guy.

What is the fascination with him??

You serious? Did Josh sleep with your girlfriend or something?

He's a really good player. Imagine him running the break with Rondo.... Wow. He may not be a great shooter, but he can knock down open shots. He can drive pretty well for a PF as well. He doesn't force shots, he takes what he gets. He's a great defensive player. Young and athletic.

He may not be a 10/10 guy (is that a special number or something?) but he is a 16pt/9reb/4ast/2blk/1.5stl guy. I'd take that over a "10/10 guy" anyday.
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Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2010, 02:56:22 PM »

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You guys need to get off Josh Smith's nuts. He's only good at two, maybe three things. #1: blocks.  Blockas are great and really hard to come by, gotta give it to him with that. #2: Dunks. Who cares? We've had two slamdunk champs in the past 5 years. How did either of them do? Ehhhh. and #3. Rebounding. He's not great at it, but its always a plus.

Regardless, he is not a "Fringe all-star". He's not even in the top 10 in the NBA at his position. He's not even a 10/10 guy.

What is the fascination with him??

You serious? Did Josh sleep with your girlfriend or something?

He's a really good player. Imagine him running the break with Rondo.... Wow. He may not be a great shooter, but he can knock down open shots. He can drive pretty well for a PF as well. He doesn't force shots, he takes what he gets. He's a great defensive player. Young and athletic.

He may not be a 10/10 guy (is that a special number or something?) but he is a 16pt/9reb/4ast/2blk/1.5stl guy. I'd take that over a "10/10 guy" anyday.


Thank you....you pretty much covered everything I was going to say.

And to Larry Pistol...no one is on Josh's nuts here. There are rumors that he might be on the trading block so we can explore the possibilities of having him on the team. Plus one would be out of their minds to not think that Smith would be a great addition to the team. Imagine him and Rondo on fastbreaks ?? That alone should be enough to want him on the team, since we don't have anyone to run with Rondo.

Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2010, 03:01:14 PM »

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Ok so I would prob trade Sheed's contract + Baby for Josh Smith. (It works, but Atl prob wouldn't do it).

I would sign Shaq and Allen Iverson for vet min and resign both Ray Allen and Tony Allen.

And for MLE I would get Mike Miller.


Starters: Rondo, Ray, KG, Pierce and Smith

Rotation: Bradley, Shaq, Iverson, Tony Allen and Mike Miller

And we would add Perks to the rotation once he comes back.

Reserves: i have no clue


Alright that would be my dream team; and hopefully it's financially realistic.


Do you really think Josh Smith is a better play than Big Baby?? Don't gt me wrong, he's a beast on the fast break and blocking shots. But I'd rather have Davis than him. Plus he hates Boston. No chance he comes here. NONE.

Lol Josh Smith is a fringe all-star. Definitely a better player than BBD (don't get me wrong, I love Baby). And who cares whether he likes it here, its not a S&T, he has no choice.


As for the team Rashi mentioned, it's too small. KG can't bang with C's for most of the regular season. Too small, no backup PF for most of the season? No 5th big? Iverson?

Errrr...



Yeah your right about KG. Actually I just pretty much threw in the players I wanted without really thinking much about it.

I know everyone wants to stay away from Iverson as much as they possibly can, but I really do think that if we could keep him drama-free and concentrate on just winning....that he has the potential to be a great 6th man for us.

I mean if we can get him for cheap, then I really don't see any harm in experimenting with him.

Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2010, 03:10:34 PM »

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PG: Rondo/Bradley
SG: Ray/Josh Powell
SF: Pierce/Roger Mason Jr/Tony Allen
PF: Garnet/Baby/Powe
C: Tyson Chandler/Perk

Sign Josh Powell for minimal contract. Powe, the same. Sign and Trade Sheed and Harongody and second rounder for next year to get Tyson. Mason Jr-> MLE.

It's possible. Not feasible. What do you guys think?


As for your team, Powe is under contract with the Cavs (2 yr deal). There are better options than Mason, but I do like Chandler if he is healthy. But we'd need an extension I'd assume and he may not want to be a backup. And Josh Powell who? The Laker? No thanks to any Laker, or any 6'9" C to be our backup SG.
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Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2010, 03:16:43 PM »

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You guys need to get off Josh Smith's nuts. He's only good at two, maybe three things. #1: blocks.  Blockas are great and really hard to come by, gotta give it to him with that. #2: Dunks. Who cares? We've had two slamdunk champs in the past 5 years. How did either of them do? Ehhhh. and #3. Rebounding. He's not great at it, but its always a plus.

Regardless, he is not a "Fringe all-star". He's not even in the top 10 in the NBA at his position. He's not even a 10/10 guy.

What is the fascination with him??

You serious? Did Josh sleep with your girlfriend or something?

He's a really good player. Imagine him running the break with Rondo.... Wow. He may not be a great shooter, but he can knock down open shots. He can drive pretty well for a PF as well. He doesn't force shots, he takes what he gets. He's a great defensive player. Young and athletic.

He may not be a 10/10 guy (is that a special number or something?) but he is a 16pt/9reb/4ast/2blk/1.5stl guy. I'd take that over a "10/10 guy" anyday.

Are you kidding me? Okay all you said was he can run the break, which yeah is good. But Big Baby can do that...for LESS money. Josh Smith is not a "really good player," he's good at best. Obviously he can knock down OPEN jumpers. I mean, Perk can knock down 10 footers when wide open. And yeah, for a STARTING forward, 10/10 is exactly what you want. And don't give me those bullsh*t numbers. First of all, he has never once in his career gotten 9 boards a game for a season. NEVER. All you did was copy and paste his best stat from each category throughout his career. None of those have ever happened together in one year. None of them are even his averages. You gotta get your facts straight Greenenvy.

All I'm saying is he doesn't like Boston and would never come here. People are throwing his name around like he's the answer.  We need a center (like Tyson Chandler) and a SG, aside form resigning Ray and Tony. Powell is SF not a SG or C, so were both wrong on that note. But he's consistent. And Powe is not under contract. Its a team option for next year, which they haven't picked up yet.

Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2010, 04:11:11 PM »

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You guys need to get off Josh Smith's nuts. He's only good at two, maybe three things. #1: blocks.  Blockas are great and really hard to come by, gotta give it to him with that. #2: Dunks. Who cares? We've had two slamdunk champs in the past 5 years. How did either of them do? Ehhhh. and #3. Rebounding. He's not great at it, but its always a plus.

Regardless, he is not a "Fringe all-star". He's not even in the top 10 in the NBA at his position. He's not even a 10/10 guy.

What is the fascination with him??

You serious? Did Josh sleep with your girlfriend or something?

He's a really good player. Imagine him running the break with Rondo.... Wow. He may not be a great shooter, but he can knock down open shots. He can drive pretty well for a PF as well. He doesn't force shots, he takes what he gets. He's a great defensive player. Young and athletic.

He may not be a 10/10 guy (is that a special number or something?) but he is a 16pt/9reb/4ast/2blk/1.5stl guy. I'd take that over a "10/10 guy" anyday.

Are you kidding me? Okay all you said was he can run the break, which yeah is good. But Big Baby can do that...for LESS money. Josh Smith is not a "really good player," he's good at best. Obviously he can knock down OPEN jumpers. I mean, Perk can knock down 10 footers when wide open. And yeah, for a STARTING forward, 10/10 is exactly what you want. And don't give me those bullsh*t numbers. First of all, he has never once in his career gotten 9 boards a game for a season. NEVER. All you did was copy and paste his best stat from each category throughout his career. None of those have ever happened together in one year. None of them are even his averages. You gotta get your facts straight Greenenvy.

All I'm saying is he doesn't like Boston and would never come here. People are throwing his name around like he's the answer.  We need a center (like Tyson Chandler) and a SG, aside form resigning Ray and Tony. Powell is SF not a SG or C, so were both wrong on that note. But he's consistent. And Powe is not under contract. Its a team option for next year, which they haven't picked up yet.

First off, I was going strictly off last seasons stats, when he averaged:
15.7 ppg
8.7 rpg
4.2 apg
2.1 bpg
1.6 spg

Sorry if I round numbers. You can't get .7 of a rebound or a point. nor can you get .2 of an assist or .1 of a block/steal.

Now you have his literal stat line from last season. Not impressive enough for you?

He'd do many things for this team, from easy transition buckets and great defense, to the easy alley-oops from Rondo (what PF can get up like him? Not many) and excellent offensive rebounding, he really is a unique player. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.


The reason why so many people are talking about his is because it's the beginning of July and he is rumored to be on the market. They'd be looking to move him to shed salary. We have 'Sheed's contract. We have decent players at affordable prices, such as BBD and Nate/TA in a S&T.

If they want to move him, we should inquire.

Nobody is saying he is the missing piece.

And again, who cares whether he likes it here or not, if he gets traded, he has no choice but to play.

As for Powe, I believe you have your facts wrong. He is under contract (but maybe not fully guaranteed, but you can't assume he will be released):
http://shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm

And Powell is at best a PF. Nowhere is he listed as a SF. Just PF/C.
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Re: Your Dream Team
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2010, 07:17:23 PM »

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Starters: Rondo + Reddick + Pierce + Garnett + Perkins*
Rotation: Bradley + Tony + Beasley + Davis + B. Miller
Reserves: Harangody + Parkahouski

That is a significantly worse team than last season.

Oh, no!