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Is one more run out of this team bad?
« on: June 24, 2010, 07:38:29 PM »

Offline openairmovie

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After hearing how many teams have the ability to sign two even three max level guys  all being in the Eastern Conf.  is trying to make one more run with this group the wrong choice? I mean really, do any of us see any way that we would be able to run against a group of Wade, Bosh, Johnson?  Lebron/Bosh         What are your opinions on this

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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 07:46:52 PM »

Offline MiamiCelticfan

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It's over. We won the championship and almost won another. Ainge was on the 80's teams that got old ans couldn't recover, obviously Len Bias death had alot to do with the rapid decline. We have to continue to get younger. No need in trying to milk one more year out of this group. The eastern conference is going to be so tough next year. Playoff teams like the bulls and the heat are going to improve rapidly. We have to stay ahead of the curve. Danny has to be cuthroat and rebuild this thing on the fly. Estern conference wont be a 3 team conference like it was this year.

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 07:52:28 PM »

Offline openairmovie

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Well according to Ainge he thinks  and wants to make one more run out of this group   according to recent interviews and press releases

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 07:56:42 PM »

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if Danny can restock the bench with quality players that can eat up minutes and contribute, I think another shot at it with this group isn't crazy.   but, Danny MUST add to the bench---both immediate talent and some prospective youth.

even though there's a lot of teams with cap room, there's only so many top flight players to sign.  a lot of teams are going to end up disappointed by not getting any of them or only 1 (if they can afford more).  The only 2 teams I think that could make out in the FA market are Chi and Miami.  everyone else will not do as well as they hope to

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 08:24:09 PM »

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If Perk doesn't get hurt, this team likely wins #18.  Also, I don't think it's out of the question that Garnett's leg is better next year than this year. 

Add another big at the LLE and very reliable wing at the MLE to give Ray and Paul a break, then bring back Ray, Nate, and TA and this team is ready to roll. 

Will it take a bit of luck?  Sure.  However, every champion gets some of that.

Plus, even if you disagree with everything I wrote above, there's no way a serious rebuilding process will happen with KG having two more years on his deal.  Might as well make the best out of this year and decide where to go next summer. 

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 12:45:28 AM »

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Sadly I think the Lakers are beginning a dynasty. Kobe still looks like he's gonna be the best or nearly the best for some more years. Pau is pretty young and he's only gonna get better. If Bynum is healthy I think he's a star. Fischer is still doin' it but also could be replaced pretty easy. Artest is a nut but he's more toughness and a great defender. Now they may get Raja Bell? Wow. Plus some veteran minimum guy(s) surely will  want to go to L.A. to get a title.I don't like it.

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 12:51:26 AM »

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Sadly I think the Lakers are beginning a dynasty. Kobe still looks like he's gonna be the best or nearly the best for some more years. Pau is pretty young and he's only gonna get better. If Bynum is healthy I think he's a star. Fischer is still doin' it but also could be replaced pretty easy. Artest is a nut but he's more toughness and a great defender. Now they may get Raja Bell? Wow. Plus some veteran minimum guy(s) surely will  want to go to L.A. to get a title.I don't like it.

I don't see it. Sorry. The playoffs were no cakewalk for them. They didn't dominate a single series. A couple of blows of the whistle in the other direction and minus a few strokes of luck they don't make it to the finals let alone a Game 7 win in the final minutes.

Kobe is amazing. There's no denying that. Pau shows up when he feels like it, as does Fish. Bynum...I've yet to be impressed by this kid. He does what he's supposed to do. Who else...Artest? Are you kidding me? And that pathetic excuse for a bench?? That is not the makings of a dynasty. Sorry.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 02:31:57 AM »

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If Perk doesn't get hurt, this team likely wins #18.  Also, I don't think it's out of the question that Garnett's leg is better next year than this year. 

Add another big at the LLE and very reliable wing at the MLE to give Ray and Paul a break, then bring back Ray, Nate, and TA and this team is ready to roll. 

Will it take a bit of luck?  Sure.  However, every champion gets some of that.

Plus, even if you disagree with everything I wrote above, there's no way a serious rebuilding process will happen with KG having two more years on his deal.  Might as well make the best out of this year and decide where to go next summer. 

We don't have the LLE to offer this year, you can only use it once every 2 years - we used it last year to sign Marquis Daniels...

Sadly I think the Lakers are beginning a dynasty. Kobe still looks like he's gonna be the best or nearly the best for some more years. Pau is pretty young and he's only gonna get better. If Bynum is healthy I think he's a star. Fischer is still doin' it but also could be replaced pretty easy. Artest is a nut but he's more toughness and a great defender. Now they may get Raja Bell? Wow. Plus some veteran minimum guy(s) surely will  want to go to L.A. to get a title.I don't like it.

I hate it, but I think you're right on the money. Lakers are good, and their core has age on their side...
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 04:00:31 AM »

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It's not the wrong choice exactly because there really are no other good choices.

The only alternative is to let our free agents go and not even make an effort at competing for the next couple of seasons in order to get as high as possible in the lottery.  I think we can agree that's not a very palatable option.

Nevertheless, my expectations for this team next season are that they'll compete for a middling seed in the playoffs and hopefully make it past the first round, but nothing beyond that.

The Eastern Conference will likely be in new hands next season.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 01:49:54 PM »

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If Chicago signs Lebron and Bosh or Boozer and Miami signs JJ and Bosh/Boozer I think it's over for the Celts.
Lets face it KG is not getting better. I think 3 rebounds in game 7 shows that. It's not lack of desire, just milage. Ray had pretty much 1 good half in the finals and played prehaps his worst game of the season in game 7. Paul can still play but is no longer "The Truth". He's now meerly a better than aveage player, but not someone who can carry a team. Perkins while a better than average defender is limited offensivly and who know when he'll be back. Rondo has great promise must still must devolope a reliable jump shot and has to improve his free throw shooting. Who even know who will be on the bench, but it doesn't appear that the Celtics have any money to really improve it.
The way I see it the Celtics have to get younger and find some players who can run with Rondo. In other words, I'm expecting a year or 2 even of rebuilding. They just don't have the parts to put together a trade to get younger and faster quickly. As much as it pains me to say this, I would let Ray go and even Pierce if he doesn't take his player option, or look to resign him on the cheap so they can add some desent younger players.
Everyone pretty much knew it was a 3 year window when the Celts picked up KG and Ray. Well the 3 years are over.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 02:19:49 PM »

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If Chicago signs Lebron and Bosh or Boozer and Miami signs JJ and Bosh/Boozer I think it's over for the Celts.
Lets face it KG is not getting better. I think 3 rebounds in game 7 shows that. It's not lack of desire, just milage. Ray had pretty much 1 good half in the finals and played prehaps his worst game of the season in game 7. Paul can still play but is no longer "The Truth". He's now meerly a better than aveage player, but not someone who can carry a team. Perkins while a better than average defender is limited offensivly and who know when he'll be back. Rondo has great promise must still must devolope a reliable jump shot and has to improve his free throw shooting. Who even know who will be on the bench, but it doesn't appear that the Celtics have any money to really improve it.
The way I see it the Celtics have to get younger and find some players who can run with Rondo. In other words, I'm expecting a year or 2 even of rebuilding. They just don't have the parts to put together a trade to get younger and faster quickly. As much as it pains me to say this, I would let Ray go and even Pierce if he doesn't take his player option, or look to resign him on the cheap so they can add some desent younger players.
Everyone pretty much knew it was a 3 year window when the Celts picked up KG and Ray. Well the 3 years are over.

A few things.  Depending on how the free agent picture works out, it might actually buy the C's another year.  Unless three superstars (and the right superstars) end up at one location, I don't see anyone as a lock for winning it all next year.  It might take a couple years of using the MLE and bringing on vets before any "super teams" win it all.  And remember, a lot of these guys are young and may not be willing to sacrifice the shots and glory that KG, Ray, and PP were willing to do at this later juncture of their careers.  If that's the case, we could be looking at one less super power in the East next season (Cleveland) with no immediate heir. 

And if a super team does form, now is the time to strike and try to win one more.  If God forbid LeBron, Wade, and Bosh ended up on the same team, we're probably screwed for the next 5-7 years anyway.  If anything, we should try to win this year before chemistry and a bench can form.  Rebuilding to try to beat that team in 3 years is probably pretty futile. 

Also, let's not rule out the possibility that KG is better next year.  I'm not suggesting he'll ever be what he was, but as Tom Brady showed, injuries take a long time to heal.  I don't expect KG to be skying over people like he used to, but I do expect him to be able to complete simple alley oops. 

I also wouldn't underestimate what the MLE spent on a strong wing could do.  Ray and PP were burnt out more than old.  If we get a reliable 25 mpg scorer who can take the pressure of them and allow them to play fewer minutes, I think we can make one more run. 

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 02:27:55 PM »

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With Perkins hurt and likely out for some time with this ACL news, Although it makes us older, we may have to look into acquiring Shaq to help as our true center. I would even take a shot with Zydrunas or Jermaine O'Neal. Bottomline is we HAVE to get bigger.