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As of now, how do you think Boston ranks?
« on: July 09, 2009, 02:35:10 AM »

Offline mgent

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In the west i really think SA is gonna beat out LA.
As far as the East goes, i kinda think Orlando, Cleveland, and Boston are in a 3 way tie (under SA but above LA).
Cleveland's biggest concern is their lack of PF, they won't make it with Varejao again.  Regardless, they're still gonna have to rely on LeBron to have another MVP season to carry them (unless Shaq reverts to his old dominate ways, unlikely).
If Orlando was able to keep Hedo i would say their starting 5 would have been better than ours.  Unfortunately they don't, and currently have a very weak bench.  Their front court is gonna die without Gortat.
And Boston...In order to ensure victory we would need a back-up PG, some sort of SF/swingman, and some rebounding muscle in the front court.  If we fill those 3 gaps, i really don't think we could lose, even to SA, and even if the rest of the top teams fix their rosters.
What do ya'll think of our chances?
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Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: As of now, how do you think Boston ranks?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 02:46:07 AM »

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TP I think Cavs even with the Shaq trade still have two aging centers and one PF so I would put Boston up top with Orlando right behind then Cavs. Spurs are tied but we have to fill out our bench like you said then we slightly ahead Lakers even with Artest because Ariza leaving and Odom maybe leaving they got no chance really against us or Spurs.

Re: As of now, how do you think Boston ranks?
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 02:55:33 AM »

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Celtics #1 by a large margin.  Orlando lost way too much already losing Lee, Alston, Battie & Hedo and getting just Vince.  If they lose Gortat too they will not be that effective.   Cavs lost big by giving huge contract to Sideshow, they gained big Shaq but lost Pavlicic & Ben which isn't that much.   Wally,Joe, & Gibson aren't too effective so they only have 6 quality guys who can play. Bron,Shaq,Z,Bob,Mo,Delonte.  Celtics win East by huge margin this year in a runaway.  SA looks better.  If Lakers lose Odom they are done, if they keep Odom they have great chance to get to finals only to get destroyed by the greatest team ever.

Re: As of now, how do you think Boston ranks?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 03:13:39 AM »

Offline mgent

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I really don't think people are giving VC as much credit as he deserves.  Courtney Lee really wasn't all that good, and now they got Nelson back, which is an improvement from Alston.  They still got Johnson as a vet PG and Redick.  Pietrus is a still a good player, and Ryan Anderson looks all right.  If Pietrus is able to do SOMETHING and Howard plays long games (it's gonna suck without Gortat), i still believe they'll be a threat.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: As of now, how do you think Boston ranks?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 03:46:42 AM »

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#1 - Unfortunately you have to give this to the Lakers.  Artest is an upgrade over Ariza.  We have to assume Bynum will be healthy, and he could very well play up to at least half his potential this season.  They will almost certainly resign Odom.  Pau and Kobe are not exactly young but still not old enough to be due for any major injuries, so we can assume they will continue to play very well.  Their bench is full of young[ish] guys, so if it doesn't get any better at the least it won't get any worse.  Simply by virtue of the fact that the Lakers actually improved a little so far this off-season and won it all last season you have to rank them at #1.

#2 - Spurs.  This ranking assumes that the Spurs are healthy, of course, but at the moment they are pretty much a complete team, and their off-season isn't even over.  They're one big man reserve away from being a solid contender, perhaps even better than the Lakers, assuming that all of their key players remain healthy.  That's a big if, though.  Nevertheless, they added a quasi-All-Star in Jefferson, had a major steal in the draft with DeJuan Blair, and got McDyess.  I will be amazed if they don't end up as the 1 or 2 seed in the West next year.

#3 - Celtics.  I put us this low because of what we have not yet accomplished.  It's still within the realm of possibility that we don't resign BBD, don't get Grant Hill, and have to rely on guys on our summer league roster to fill in the gaps.  We'll be in trouble if that's the case.  However, we're one solid wing free agent and a couple decent backups (PG and PF) away from perhaps being #1 or #2.

#4 - Cavaliers.  Sure, the Cavs haven't actually gotten worse, per se.  But I would argue they have gotten worse relative to the other contenders.  Getting Shaq isn't as big of an improvement as the media would like to make it seem.  Shaq is knocking on 40 and is a major injury waiting to happen (if not to him then to one of his teammates).  The Cavs may very well dominate the regular season - again - but I'm still just not convinced they are Finals material.  Getting Anthony Parker is really a wash for them since they're losing Szczerbiak and they've already traded away Pavlovic.  The only starting position they upgraded was center and the difference between Shaq and Big Z might not be that big, at least in the playoffs against tough opponents.

#5 - Dallas Mavericks.  That's right, I'm placing the Mavs over the Magic.  By all accounts it seems that they are going to acquire Quinton Ross, Shawn Marion, and Marcin Gortat, as well as resign Jason Kidd.  As long as they stay healthy (they're an older team overall than the freaking Spurs), they could be the #2 or #3 team in the West.  Watch out for them.  They will probably lose Brandon Bass, but that's no big deal.

#6 - Orlando Magic.  You might say 'the mighty have fallen,' but I'm not convinced the Magic really were that mighty in the first place.  They got lucky in the East this year.  They made their way - barely - past a Celtics team with very significant injuries (re: our best player) and then beat a Cleveland team that had serious matchup problems with two of their leading scorers.  They got manhandled in the Finals.  If they had kept their nucleus together, they might have been better this year, but the list of players they lost so far this off-season is staggering: Rafer Alston, Courtney Lee, Hedo Turkoglu, Tony Battie, and Marcin Gortat.  In return so far they've gotten Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson.  Vince may or may not be as good as Hedo, but he's not as much of a playmaker, and he doesn't create mismatches the way Hedo does.  The Magic as they are now couldn't hope to beat Cleveland again.  The Magic will probably be the 3 seed in the East again, but only because there aren't any other really good teams in the East.  What, do you really think the Wizards are going to get higher than 5 or 6?  The Hawks?  The Detroit Huskies?  Fat chance.


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