Jerry Stackhouse a good option?

[Snakehead]

I'd rather gamble on West's head than Stackhouse's body.

If Stack's body doesn't hold up you simply have an old player who is still a decent contributor, basically exactly what happend with Finley last year.  He didn't give us what we expected but he could step on the floor and not kill us at least.

If West's head goes wrong?  Well who knows the possibilities, but it's possible it tears up some of the team chemistry.  Not saying it's true, who knows exactly, but imagine if that Gloria James rumor is true... that kind of damage to your team chemistry.


I'll take Stack every day.  Plus Stack actually is a SF, West is a redundant combo guard who does not address our needs.


Stack is a solid player and can still score. He impressed me with the Bucks last year, still playing well and in the Playoffs too. If we don't have a better option I would prefer him of all the available guys.  He'd be strong in a reserve role.

If his body doesn't hold up, he's not going to be in uniform.  He hasn't played 70 games since 02-03.  There is a good chance based on his history that he won't be available for the playoffs.

Well okay, but again at worst we have a guy who can't contribute too much on the floor or doesn't play, but is a solid guy to have around and would be a good veteran mind to have on the bench.

And if he can contribute at a good level but does only play say 60 games, we have other options to fill in for him in Quis and Wafer.  Coming to our team, Stack would be playing the smallest amount of minutes he has played ever.  His lowest MPG was in Dallas in 08-09 where he played 16 (in a limited run on that team), and that'd be the most he possibly plays for us. So I think his body would hold up better here.

Comparing him to Finley, I think Stack was a better player last year for the Bucks than Finley was for the Spurs when we got him.  And we're paying him the vet min, so not a big deal.

Delonte?  Again, very possible serious chemistry damage to the team.  He is getting the vet. min too, but there are much more serious possibilities for a downside with his signing than Stacks.

[Chris]

Hard worker who can stretch the floor, slash, and hit his FT's.

Sounds great as our 2/3 backup.

How's his defense?

Passable?  He is not going to shut anyone down, but he should be able to pick up on the system and rotations decently.

Obviously, if the C's can find a better defender, who they can be confident can contribute if needed on both sides of the ball without mucking things up too much, then by all means, they should get them.

But right now, the better defenders they would be looking at, are mostly marginal NBA players overall.  So, gun to my head, I take the guy you know will at least be productive offensively, and not completely botch the defensive rotations.

[the_Bird]

If you're thinking about Stack, who's not going to be able to match up against guys like LeBron anyway...  hell, I think I'd take a gamble and try and bring in Delonte on the cheap.  On the court, I feel better about Delonte being able to be a harassing defensive presence, and he can hit a jump shot effectively enough to keep defenses honest.  

Stack's not a horrible option, he showed last year that he's got SOME game left, I just worry that he's not all that far away from Michael Finley territory.  Rather have at least SOME younger legs out there.  

PREFERENCE is a legit, defensive-minded backup SF, but not sure who is left out there that's really likely to get on the court....  seems that the team's more likely to go with a three-guard lineup at least some of the time when Pierce is out.

[jdub1660]

I really wish people would STOP requesting we sign Delonte. Even after resigning Quis and then Wafer and Harangody, Pierce STILL said he needed someone to back him up at SF.
So NO NO NO Delonte can NOT play SF on this team. Maybe in GS or Phoenix where defense is a foreign language, but not here in a half-court style championship bound team.

Back to Stack. He played well for the Bucks. He gave them leadership, scored points, and played NBA D without getting blown by like Finley. We would only need Jerry for about 10 minutes per game. We secure a victory with a double digit lead in the the 4th, then slide Wafer/Quis in at the 3 when it doesn't matter.

And Stack wouldn't be guarding LeBron(or at least not for more than a couple possessions) b/c he'd be part of our bench unit, so he'd be matched up against players like James Jones and Luke Walton. Stack can handle that

Okay, last complaint. Along with the Delonte lovefest, lets drop the idea of getting a YOUNG, Defensive minded SF that isn't a liability on offense. B/c there's not one. And there aren't any set to be cut or available via trade either. Its Stackhouse, Sprewell, or Antoine Walker.   NOW PICK ONE!

[Lucky17]

Trenton Hassell and Bobby Simmons.

Two free agent veterans whom I'd prefer over Stackhouse.

[Assassin70]

Trenton Hassell and Bobby Simmons.

Two free agent veterans whom I'd prefer over Stackhouse.

/co sign

[the_Bird]

I really wish people would STOP requesting we sign Delonte. Even after resigning Quis and then Wafer and Harangody, Pierce STILL said he needed someone to back him up at SF.
So NO NO NO Delonte can NOT play SF on this team. Maybe in GS or Phoenix where defense is a foreign language, but not here in a half-court style championship bound team.

Back to Stack. He played well for the Bucks. He gave them leadership, scored points, and played NBA D without getting blown by like Finley. We would only need Jerry for about 10 minutes per game. We secure a victory with a double digit lead in the the 4th, then slide Wafer/Quis in at the 3 when it doesn't matter.

And Stack wouldn't be guarding LeBron(or at least not for more than a couple possessions) b/c he'd be part of our bench unit, so he'd be matched up against players like James Jones and Luke Walton. Stack can handle that

Okay, last complaint. Along with the Delonte lovefest, lets drop the idea of getting a YOUNG, Defensive minded SF that isn't a liability on offense. B/c there's not one. And there aren't any set to be cut or available via trade either. Its Stackhouse, Sprewell, or Antoine Walker.   NOW PICK ONE!

So what the hell does Stackhouse give us on D that Delonte doesn't?  Seriously?  I'd take a 6'3"-but-tail-busting Delonte over an 85-year-old, never-was-a-good-defender Stackhouse (who's much more of a 2 than a 3, anyway).  

It ain't a matter of being in love with Delonte, he's just the best wing player that's still available on the market.  

And honestly...  the fact that you bring up as an option SPREWELL, who ain't played in what, five years, pretty much shoots your argument to ****.

The options for F/G still out there....

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2010/
Trenton Hassell
Sasha Pavlovic
Quinton Ross
Bobby Simmons
Ime Udoka

I just don't see ANY of those guys getting off the bench come the playoffs; not a one of them would be one of the nine or ten best players on the team.

Delonte would be.  Certainly was one of Cleveland's four or five best players for the past three years.  It's just the off-court stuff, which is obviously a concern...  but we're talking vet-minimum contracts.  Dude stops taking his meds, dude starts acting up, it's not that big a deal to waive him bye.

EDIT: Why even bring up 'Gody?  He's not seeing the court for any meaningful time next year, not very likely.  If so, he's either a PF (making him irrelevant to your argument) or playing the SF (working against your argument, as he'd be backing up Pierce).

[nba is the worst]

I really wish people would STOP requesting we sign Delonte. Even after resigning Quis and then Wafer and Harangody, Pierce STILL said he needed someone to back him up at SF.
So NO NO NO Delonte can NOT play SF on this team. Maybe in GS or Phoenix where defense is a foreign language, but not here in a half-court style championship bound team.

Back to Stack. He played well for the Bucks. He gave them leadership, scored points, and played NBA D without getting blown by like Finley. We would only need Jerry for about 10 minutes per game. We secure a victory with a double digit lead in the the 4th, then slide Wafer/Quis in at the 3 when it doesn't matter.

And Stack wouldn't be guarding LeBron(or at least not for more than a couple possessions) b/c he'd be part of our bench unit, so he'd be matched up against players like James Jones and Luke Walton. Stack can handle that

Okay, last complaint. Along with the Delonte lovefest, lets drop the idea of getting a YOUNG, Defensive minded SF that isn't a liability on offense. B/c there's not one. And there aren't any set to be cut or available via trade either. Its Stackhouse, Sprewell, or Antoine Walker.   NOW PICK ONE!

He's undersized for the 3 as well. Career 41% shooter, avg'd under 4 rpg in his prime.

IMO Delonte's the BPA for the minimum, and if they find a suitable backup for Pierce they can cut Wafer.

Lol @ Sprewell or Walker...

[jdub1660]

I really wish people would STOP requesting we sign Delonte. Even after resigning Quis and then Wafer and Harangody, Pierce STILL said he needed someone to back him up at SF.
So NO NO NO Delonte can NOT play SF on this team. Maybe in GS or Phoenix where defense is a foreign language, but not here in a half-court style championship bound team.

Back to Stack. He played well for the Bucks. He gave them leadership, scored points, and played NBA D without getting blown by like Finley. We would only need Jerry for about 10 minutes per game. We secure a victory with a double digit lead in the the 4th, then slide Wafer/Quis in at the 3 when it doesn't matter.

And Stack wouldn't be guarding LeBron(or at least not for more than a couple possessions) b/c he'd be part of our bench unit, so he'd be matched up against players like James Jones and Luke Walton. Stack can handle that

Okay, last complaint. Along with the Delonte lovefest, lets drop the idea of getting a YOUNG, Defensive minded SF that isn't a liability on offense. B/c there's not one. And there aren't any set to be cut or available via trade either. Its Stackhouse, Sprewell, or Antoine Walker.   NOW PICK ONE!

So what the hell does Stackhouse give us on D that Delonte doesn't?  Seriously?  I'd take a 6'3"-but-tail-busting Delonte over an 85-year-old, never-was-a-good-defender Stackhouse (who's much more of a 2 than a 3, anyway).  

It ain't a matter of being in love with Delonte, he's just the best wing player that's still available on the market.  

And honestly...  the fact that you bring up as an option SPREWELL, who ain't played in what, five years, pretty much shoots your argument to ****.

The options for F/G still out there....

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2010/
Trenton Hassell
Sasha Pavlovic
Quinton Ross
Bobby Simmons
Ime Udoka

I just don't see ANY of those guys getting off the bench come the playoffs; not a one of them would be one of the nine or ten best players on the team.

Delonte would be.  Certainly was one of Cleveland's four or five best players for the past three years.  It's just the off-court stuff, which is obviously a concern...  but we're talking vet-minimum contracts.  Dude stops taking his meds, dude starts acting up, it's not that big a deal to waive him bye.

EDIT: Why even bring up 'Gody?  He's not seeing the court for any meaningful time next year, not very likely.  If so, he's either a PF (making him irrelevant to your argument) or playing the SF (working against your argument, as he'd be backing up Pierce).

The Sprewell comment was a sarcastic joke towards the reoccurring thread about Sprewell that's been in the top 10 the past 2 days. Antoine was another joke towards the avid Walker fans.

Sorry but Delonte can't guard a SF. If we didn't get Wafer,Quis OR Nate, then Delonte makes sense. Otherwise, it's dumb and someone becomes an insurance policy for the rest, b/c they're all combo guards that are too short/too small to be SFs.

I will co sign on the idea of Trenton Hassell. Always been a fan since his days with KG and the TWolves. He can play solid D and hit the open 10-15 footer. Bobby Simmons seems too good to be true since he'll probably end up on a sorry team for half the MLE.

Another name to throw out there, Damien Wilkins. Can score for sure, and long enough to be a real SF behind Pierce.