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Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2009, 01:44:25 PM »

Offline vagrantwade

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Marbury really loves this team so he is having a good time. I honestly believe his shooting woes have to do with being rusty and coming off the bench. He has said coming off the bench is the hardest thing to adjust to. He is probably having a bit more difficulty getting into the flow of the game. Since 96' he has been doing his shoot around, waited for the jump ball, then got going.

He would have benefited a lot from a spring training with the team.
spring training?

I'm trying to juggle baseball with the NBA postseason give me a break.

But I never understood the selfishness quip people like to give Marbury. The dude almost averages 8 assists a game for his career and he played with some AWFUL teams. Who else did you want shooting the ball on the Knicks and Nets? He was the best scorer, period.

i think it has more to do with the way he conducted himself in the press and how he pretty much demanded as much money as KG or he was not going to play for the timberwolves, which came to pass.


Steph has been a bad egg his entire career. i am enjoying this bizzaro version of him, but lets not try to make him out as misunderstood.


What else did the Media tell you about Marbury.

Because he never demanded as much money as KG. That is a lie. He told them he was not going to resign because he did not want to spend his career in Minnesota or live there, so they wouldn't be left without a PG. So Minnesota traded him to get a point guard.

ok, your right, clearly steph is like godzilla. He's never been a bad teamate, never threatned his coach, never complained about minutes, never made an ass of himself in interviews. I have misunderstood him for 12 years, all he wanted was my love!

I see now, He is in fact a saint, and i have completly misunderstood him. I apologize to steph for ever doubting the vast media consipracy against him. none of his troubles the previous 12 years have been in an way his fault.

I only hope he can one day forgive this simple, flawed mortal.

Considering the things he has done for children in the NYC metro area, he in comparison is a saint I am sure.

Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2009, 04:04:00 PM »

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I agree that Steph's D is on point. Rondo needs to pick it up on that end of the court. The starters have no energy on defense to start out the games and it all starts with Rondo. As soon as the bench comes in the defensive energy triples- credit Steph and Scal for that.
As for the media and Steph's rep: there are a lot of lies out there starting with went down in Minnesota. Marbury could never demand what KG got b/c this was post lockout. No matter where he played he could NEVER get KG money. That was the whole point of the new CBA. Regarding his teammates not liking him: we're talking about Quentin Richardson here so who cares? Jamal Crawford,D Lee,Nate,Curry,Zach Randolph,Mardy Collins,Anthony Roberson,even Duhon have all stated publicly they had no problem with the dude. Crazy interviews? The guy talks about getting saved and kissing his sister and sick people turn it into incest. He refers to his wife as "my better half, my better whole" and people claim he called her a ho. Look at his behavior here in Boston, look at his charity work, look at his actual quotes and the context in which they were made. Most importantly, I think- look at his friends. KG(despite a fake beef that the media made up),Ray Allen,Chauncey Billups,Flip Saunders,Sam Mitchell, Danny Ainge... I could go on + on with a list of the quality people who support Steph now and have for years. Even Larry Brown came out and said Steph shouldn't be benched in NY and that what went on with them when he was the coach WASN'T STEPH'S FAULT. This should tell you something. 

Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2009, 05:53:32 PM »

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Marbury really loves this team so he is having a good time. I honestly believe his shooting woes have to do with being rusty and coming off the bench. He has said coming off the bench is the hardest thing to adjust to. He is probably having a bit more difficulty getting into the flow of the game. Since 96' he has been doing his shoot around, waited for the jump ball, then got going.

He would have benefited a lot from a spring training with the team.
spring training?

I'm trying to juggle baseball with the NBA postseason give me a break.

But I never understood the selfishness quip people like to give Marbury. The dude almost averages 8 assists a game for his career and he played with some AWFUL teams. Who else did you want shooting the ball on the Knicks and Nets? He was the best scorer, period.
I know, I was just messing with ya.  ;D

Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2009, 06:12:03 PM »

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not by me, I posted right after game 3 that rondo should have stayed on the bench because marbury's pressure was getting us back in the game, plus he has a little size to him.  Been really happy with his D.


Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2009, 08:08:42 PM »

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any other guys who didn't want him for anything other than the 3 months left now having second thoughts with what he's showed

Not me. The hustle and all that jazz is nice, but although his defensive effort he's not exactly a lockdown defender and I don't want a backup guard that is shooting .27% (or even 35%) from the field. And 2 assists every 10 minutes is not really impressive either. Until he proves he can hit the mid-range shot or beat him man off the bounce, he's just a rather ordinary player, easily replaceable. Unless Marbury wants to return dirty cheap (like for the minimum), I prefer to keep House as the backup guard and spend the money on someone else; find a youngster to be the 3rd string PG.

Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2009, 09:46:13 PM »

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Give Marbury a full summer camp and a regular season and I see him doing big things for our bench.
You see flashes of vintage Starbury (that floater is so sick!!) so you know he still has some left in him. The dudes 32 and he went into this season in the best shape of his life. He pretty much retired for a year and half but like I said..give him summer camp and he'll be ready.

I know that Miami was interested in him (REALGM.com reported that Wade called him personally to join the Heat). He would of probably started over Chalmers there but from what I read, it wasn't about playing time and money, but about winning.

But yeah, I hope Marbury the best. I love his Defense so far.

Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2009, 10:27:39 PM »

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Not me. The hustle and all that jazz is nice, but although his defensive effort he's not exactly a lockdown defender and I don't want a backup guard that is shooting .27% (or even 35%) from the field. And 2 assists every 10 minutes is not really impressive either. Until he proves he can hit the mid-range shot or beat him man off the bounce, he's just a rather ordinary player, easily replaceable. Unless Marbury wants to return dirty cheap (like for the minimum), I prefer to keep House as the backup guard and spend the money on someone else; find a youngster to be the 3rd string PG.



Fortunately, there is no way that any team that will offer him more than the minimum. I think a lot of GM's will be thinking the same way Cordobes is (for better or worse). Marbury hasn't earned himself any more than a minimum contract. I personally believe he's been a decent  backup for the C's - good D, okay job at running the offense. I think he still has the skills to provide a little more (not All-Star level obviously) - and a full training camp would go a long way into coaxing that out of Marbury. He is also adjusting to being a bench player for the first time in his career. Given time, I think the C's can get more out of him at a cheap price.

Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2009, 11:18:32 PM »

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I agree that Steph's D is on point. Rondo needs to pick it up on that end of the court. The starters have no energy on defense to start out the games and it all starts with Rondo. As soon as the bench comes in the defensive energy triples- credit Steph and Scal for that.
As for the media and Steph's rep: there are a lot of lies out there starting with went down in Minnesota. Marbury could never demand what KG got b/c this was post lockout. No matter where he played he could NEVER get KG money. That was the whole point of the new CBA. Regarding his teammates not liking him: we're talking about Quentin Richardson here so who cares? Jamal Crawford,D Lee,Nate,Curry,Zach Randolph,Mardy Collins,Anthony Roberson,even Duhon have all stated publicly they had no problem with the dude. Crazy interviews? The guy talks about getting saved and kissing his sister and sick people turn it into incest. He refers to his wife as "my better half, my better whole" and people claim he called her a ho. Look at his behavior here in Boston, look at his charity work, look at his actual quotes and the context in which they were made. Most importantly, I think- look at his friends. KG(despite a fake beef that the media made up),Ray Allen,Chauncey Billups,Flip Saunders,Sam Mitchell, Danny Ainge... I could go on + on with a list of the quality people who support Steph now and have for years. Even Larry Brown came out and said Steph shouldn't be benched in NY and that what went on with them when he was the coach WASN'T STEPH'S FAULT. This should tell you something. 
Come on now. The dude really is nuts. He is always saying bizarre things and can't maintain a train of thought. There's no conspiracy out there to make Marbury look bad. The dude really has issues.

Nevertheless, he has shown exemplary character since coming here. Unfortunately, his shooting has been horrid.

Re: Marbury D is underappreciated
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2009, 12:44:22 AM »

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I agree that Steph's D is on point. Rondo needs to pick it up on that end of the court. The starters have no energy on defense to start out the games and it all starts with Rondo. As soon as the bench comes in the defensive energy triples- credit Steph and Scal for that.
As for the media and Steph's rep: there are a lot of lies out there starting with went down in Minnesota. Marbury could never demand what KG got b/c this was post lockout. No matter where he played he could NEVER get KG money. That was the whole point of the new CBA. Regarding his teammates not liking him: we're talking about Quentin Richardson here so who cares? Jamal Crawford,D Lee,Nate,Curry,Zach Randolph,Mardy Collins,Anthony Roberson,even Duhon have all stated publicly they had no problem with the dude. Crazy interviews? The guy talks about getting saved and kissing his sister and sick people turn it into incest. He refers to his wife as "my better half, my better whole" and people claim he called her a ho. Look at his behavior here in Boston, look at his charity work, look at his actual quotes and the context in which they were made. Most importantly, I think- look at his friends. KG(despite a fake beef that the media made up),Ray Allen,Chauncey Billups,Flip Saunders,Sam Mitchell, Danny Ainge... I could go on + on with a list of the quality people who support Steph now and have for years. Even Larry Brown came out and said Steph shouldn't be benched in NY and that what went on with them when he was the coach WASN'T STEPH'S FAULT. This should tell you something. 
Come on now. The dude really is nuts. He is always saying bizarre things and can't maintain a train of thought. There's no conspiracy out there to make Marbury look bad. The dude really has issues.

Nevertheless, he has shown exemplary character since coming here. Unfortunately, his shooting has been horrid.

He has been very well spoken in his recent E60 interview and SLAM interview.

But haters will be haters.